Found Deceased Ks - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #33

[TheCrankyChef]

Did you see this article? I wish it was more in depth, but it does include a transcript of the 911 call.

"Sheryl McCollum, a language expert, CSI, and Director of Atlanta’s Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, analyzed the 911 call..."

Lucas Hernandez 911 call released: Language expert points out inconsistencies, red flags on Emily Glass’ call to report young boy missing

I shouldn't have clicked on that - I'm getting beyond upset (I did take a break for a while). That photo of Lucas is priceless (his eyes melt my heart) but that monster beside his picture, her eyes are just empty. Maybe the drugs or no soul or both.

JH wasn't thinking with the brain between his ears and EG got a free ride until she ran out of road. She had a choice, JH had a choice, Lucas did not.

 

[whatsnext]

I shouldn't have clicked on that - I'm getting beyond upset (I did take a break for a while). That photo of Lucas is priceless (his eyes melt my heart) but that monster beside his picture, her eyes are just empty. Maybe the drugs or no soul or both.

JH wasn't thinking with the brain between his ears and EG got a free ride until she ran out of road. She had a choice, JH had a choice, Lucas did not.

Yes, every time my heart starts to feel some kind of compassion with Emily, my head tells me off, Lucas is the defenseless victim.

 

[Squirrel85]

Did you see this article? I wish it was more in depth, but it does include a transcript of the 911 call.

"Sheryl McCollum, a language expert, CSI, and Director of Atlanta’s Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, analyzed the 911 call..."

Lucas Hernandez 911 call released: Language expert points out inconsistencies, red flags on Emily Glass’ call to report young boy missing

When I was listening to the medication part of the 911 call... I thought Emily said, Lucas, is on Ferium or something that sounds similar. Ferium Xt Tablet - Uses, Benefits, and Working - Emcure Pharma - TabletWise - India I wonder if Lucas was anemic? Lucas was malnourished, so it makes sense... I guess.

 

[AlwaysHopeToHelp]

@Charliegizmo49 I say it often but I love your posts, Ma’am! You are always so insight and seem to nail her down like no other! I agree 100% with you!

 

[Seattle1]

Did you see this article? I wish it was more in depth, but it does include a transcript of the 911 call.

"Sheryl McCollum, a language expert, CSI, and Director of Atlanta’s Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, analyzed the 911 call..."

Lucas Hernandez 911 call released: Language expert points out inconsistencies, red flags on Emily Glass’ call to report young boy missing

JH and EG were two of a kind! Even though JH cleared in EG death, I read similar analysis citing "deception is the norm for him," and comes very easy for JH. In his 911 call, he's slow to ask for help and alibi-building came first. Can't link his Statement Analysis as it's against TOS.

 

[margarita25]

Did you see this article? I wish it was more in depth, but it does include a transcript of the 911 call.

"Sheryl McCollum, a language expert, CSI, and Director of Atlanta’s Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, analyzed the 911 call..."

Lucas Hernandez 911 call released: Language expert points out inconsistencies, red flags on Emily Glass’ call to report young boy missing

Good points here. Thanks for posting.

 

[Blef]

I know just what you are saying. As I have posted way back, I found my first husband dead from suicidal overdose at this kitchen table where I sit. We'd been divorced for over 20 years but was staying with me while waiting for his new home to be finished.
I was in total shock. I probably stared at him for over 7 minutes or so before I called 911. He was blue and had been dead at least 2 days.
My second husband committed suicide on a leather couch I bought him but he was at a different home 3 miles from here and his dad found him.
Our 911 calls were very different in each case.
My 911 call reporting the death here in my home in January this year might have seemed cold, but it wasn't because I'd known him since I was about 16. I was in shock as I asked officers and organized crime if I could smoke and they reminded me it was my home.
It's hard to say what anyone's response is going to be, but if there is blood everywhere and an obviously fresh scene, it's even worse.
JMO and experience and also finding my female "roomie" unresponsive and waiting 20 mins for 911 to arrive just last month from an od.
Shake my head.....

I didn't find my wife dead after her suicide. She had jumped from our 7th floor balcony when I was asleep after me being awake with her for 4 days and nights (and desperately trying to get her help in that time). I was woken by the police banging on my apartment door. In the moments after they told me she was dead I insisted on making a pot of coffee, trying to find a clean t-shirt to put on and smoking at least 4 cigarettes one after the other. Unless you have been in this situation you don't know how you are going to react. Once it hit me that my wife had been successful at taking her own life I literally couldn't breathe without someone reminding me to, a nurse sat with me at the hospital and said to me every few seconds "breathe, breathe", I couldn't speak, I was actually hospitalised for 6 weeks in a psychiatric unit because I couldn't even function properly.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I think if JH gets custody he needs Anger Management and Parenting classes immediately. Also, CPS should be required to do a thorough check on his home, occupants, and pediatric check of MH at surprise visits for the next two years.

He didn’t prove to be a caring parent with a child now deceased under suspicious circumstances, a suit has been filed against him on abuse to his step-son, so it seems the qualifiers are there to watch his actions with MH.

My opinions only.

Screw the anger management,and parenting classes. Time,and time again children that have been murdered have had parental units go through these classes, and the end result is still dead children.
SMH. enough with the rights of the parents.
How about the rights of the children?
If you look at all the photos, and interviews.
You will see E.G. is not the only meth head.
imho.

 

[Ilovemy3boys]

I didn't find my wife dead after her suicide. She had jumped from our 7th floor balcony when I was asleep after me being awake with her for 4 days and nights (and desperately trying to get her help in that time). I was woken by the police banging on my apartment door. In the moments after they told me she was dead I insisted on making a pot of coffee, trying to find a clean t-shirt to put on and smoking at least 4 cigarettes one after the other. Unless you have been in this situation you don't know how you are going to react. Once it hit me that my wife had been successful at taking her own life I literally couldn't breathe without someone reminding me to, a nurse sat with me at the hospital and said to me every few seconds "breathe, breathe", I couldn't speak, I was actually hospitalised for 6 weeks in a psychiatric unit because I couldn't even function properly.

I am so sorry you had to go through that. This is so sad.

 

[Ilovemy3boys]

If DCF cared and did their jobs, then maybe things wouldn’t have gotten out of hand.

 

[PommyMommy]

I didn't find my wife dead after her suicide. She had jumped from our 7th floor balcony when I was asleep after me being awake with her for 4 days and nights (and desperately trying to get her help in that time). I was woken by the police banging on my apartment door. In the moments after they told me she was dead I insisted on making a pot of coffee, trying to find a clean t-shirt to put on and smoking at least 4 cigarettes one after the other. Unless you have been in this situation you don't know how you are going to react. Once it hit me that my wife had been successful at taking her own life I literally couldn't breathe without someone reminding me to, a nurse sat with me at the hospital and said to me every few seconds "breathe, breathe", I couldn't speak, I was actually hospitalised for 6 weeks in a psychiatric unit because I couldn't even function properly.

I'm so sorry, Blef. My eyes are filled with tears and my heart aches for you, reading this.

 

[Steelslady]

Screw the anger management,and parenting classes. Time,and time again children that have been murdered have had parental units go through these classes, and the end result is still dead children.
SMH. enough with the rights of the parents.
How about the rights of the children?
If you look at all the photos, and interviews.
You will see E.G. is not the only meth head.
imho.

Bolded by me- right on! I agree with everything you just said and more. I get so sick and tired of these so called parents that are abusing children being allowed to get them back. In most of the cases that I have seen with abused children, and this includes people around me over the years off line, the parents don't change. They walk the walk, talk the talk, get their kids back, start their wild partying again and bring unsavory characters around the children. If the children are lucky, they get pulled from the home. If their unlucky, they suffer torment, abuse and neglect daily until they are old enough to get the hell out of dodge and move out. In some cases, like darling Lucas, they don't get out alive. Disgusting!

 

[Steelslady]

I didn't find my wife dead after her suicide. She had jumped from our 7th floor balcony when I was asleep after me being awake with her for 4 days and nights (and desperately trying to get her help in that time). I was woken by the police banging on my apartment door. In the moments after they told me she was dead I insisted on making a pot of coffee, trying to find a clean t-shirt to put on and smoking at least 4 cigarettes one after the other. Unless you have been in this situation you don't know how you are going to react. Once it hit me that my wife had been successful at taking her own life I literally couldn't breathe without someone reminding me to, a nurse sat with me at the hospital and said to me every few seconds "breathe, breathe", I couldn't speak, I was actually hospitalised for 6 weeks in a psychiatric unit because I couldn't even function properly.

I am so so sorry you wet through this. Big hug to you, I can't imagine how devastating that had to be. She was lucky to have someone as loving and kind as you that cared, right up to the end- and she knew that, Blef. She knew how much you loved her and cared.

 

[Squirrel85]

I didn't find my wife dead after her suicide. She had jumped from our 7th floor balcony when I was asleep after me being awake with her for 4 days and nights (and desperately trying to get her help in that time). I was woken by the police banging on my apartment door. In the moments after they told me she was dead I insisted on making a pot of coffee, trying to find a clean t-shirt to put on and smoking at least 4 cigarettes one after the other. Unless you have been in this situation you don't know how you are going to react. Once it hit me that my wife had been successful at taking her own life I literally couldn't breathe without someone reminding me to, a nurse sat with me at the hospital and said to me every few seconds "breathe, breathe", I couldn't speak, I was actually hospitalised for 6 weeks in a psychiatric unit because I couldn't even function properly.

I am sorry that you went through this, and I am sorry about your wife.

 

[Squirrel85]

Screw the anger management,and parenting classes. Time,and time again children that have been murdered have had parental units go through these classes, and the end result is still dead children.
SMH. enough with the rights of the parents.
How about the rights of the children?
If you look at all the photos, and interviews.
You will see E.G. is not the only meth head.
imho.

I totally agree with you!!! Anger management classes and parenting classes don't always fix people. You can't force someone to take these classes and expect them to change. People have to be willing to change things about themselves.

I also feel like babies/children aren't always seen as being people. This is why some adults are more concerned about their own feelings and not the feelings of their children.

I hope JH never gets MH back. I am still trying to figure out why JH was able to get Lucas back. JH wasn't working in town, and Lucas wasn't in the care of his custodial parent. And, I am still wondering why JH didn't work in town or move his family closer to his work? I don't believe that JH didn't know about the abuse. I also think JH only had his best interest in mind, and not Lucas' or MH's.

 

[Ilovemy3boys]

I totally agree with you!!! Anger management classes and parenting classes don't always fix people. You can't force someone to take these classes and expect them to change. People have to be willing to change things about themselves.

I also feel like babies/children aren't always seen as being people. This is why some adults are more concerned about their own feelings and not the feelings of their children.

I hope JH never gets MH back. I am still trying to figure out why JH was able to get Lucas back. JH wasn't working in town, and Lucas wasn't in the care of his custodial parent. And, I am still wondering why JH didn't work in town or move his family closer to his work? I don't believe that JH didn't know about the abuse. I also think JH only had his best interest in mind, and not Lucas' or MH's.

Yes, I’m surprised as well that he got Lucas custody in the first place when he’s gone 20 days at a time for work.

 

[Blef]

I just listened to JH's 911 call and to me it does sound like he is in shock. I heard him gasp for breath a few times, and it's normal for everyday details to not come to your mind when you are in such a state like her age, etc. The police asked me to describe my wife when they found her to verify it was her, and what she was wearing and I know I struggled. I couldn't find the right words to say even though I obviously knew her physical description and what I had last seen her wearing. I apologised so many times for my brain just not working properly. That call to me sounded exactly how I imagined it would. He just sounded like he couldn't take in what had just happened.

I kinda feel for the guy that after all the trauma he went through losing Lucas, he then has to deal with finding EGs body and the state that would have been in. I'm not defending him btw, I just think it's a horrendous amount of stress for one person to go through. Still think he should have protected Lucas better mind you.

 

[perfectingpink]

Dad of Lucas Hernandez in ICU emergency room following little boy’s public memorial

Jonathan Hernandez, father of Kansas boy Lucas Hernandez, was admitted into a Wichita hospital Saturday evening after his son’s public memorial.

“He has an abscess in his throat which is making it almost impossible to swallow and they are worried about his breathing,” Cyndi Norman, Hernandez’s mother explained to CrimeOnline. “He went to the ER Saturday evening and they thought it might be tonsillitis, so they gave him and antibiotic and something for pain. By 3 a.m. it was worse, so he went back to the ER and they ran blood work.”

So far, according to Norman, doctors aren’t quite sure what the problem is, but plan to perform a CT scan on Tuesday if Hernandez’s condition hasn’t improved.

“He’s in severe pain. The pain medication just takes the edge off. They did the nasal camera again this morning and said it wasn’t any worse, but no better.”

[....]

 

[Blef]

Thank you guy for the kind messages. That morning isn't a place I go back to very often as it triggers my PTSD very badly. There was a stabbing in my building last week (the guy stabbed was fine afterwards, only minor injuries) but I went out the back door to take out the trash and got locked out and came out the front to police cars with lights flashing and yellow tape all over and literally nearly passed out as it triggered my PTSD from that morning, when she died. It's one of the things that I'll never forget. All those police cars and tape, and people trying to shield me from seeing her body. Anyhoo I'm going off topic. Sorry.

 

[Jmoose]

I totally agree with you!!! Anger management classes and parenting classes don't always fix people. You can't force someone to take these classes and expect them to change. People have to be willing to change things about themselves.

I also feel like babies/children aren't always seen as being people. This is why some adults are more concerned about their own feelings and not the feelings of their children.

I hope JH never gets MH back. I am still trying to figure out why JH was able to get Lucas back. JH wasn't working in town, and Lucas wasn't in the care of his custodial parent. And, I am still wondering why JH didn't work in town or move his family closer to his work? I don't believe that JH didn't know about the abuse. I also think JH only had his best interest in mind, and not Lucas' or MH's.

I totally agree with you!!! Anger management classes and parenting classes don't always fix people. You can't force someone to take these classes and expect them to change. People have to be willing to change things about themselves.

I also feel like babies/children aren't always seen as being people. This is why some adults are more concerned about their own feelings and not the feelings of their children.

I hope JH never gets MH back. I am still trying to figure out why JH was able to get Lucas back. JH wasn't working in town, and Lucas wasn't in the care of his custodial parent. And, I am still wondering why JH didn't work in town or move his family closer to his work? I don't believe that JH didn't know about the abuse. I also think JH only had his best interest in mind, and not Lucas' or MH's.

Your last paragraph is exactly what I’ve been thinking all along. How is it possible that Child Protective Services left Lucas with basically a stranger, knowing that his father’s job kept him away from the home almost always. At least foster homes get some kind of oversight, and some attempt is made to try to protect the children in them. Nobody tried looking out for Lucas, except for family members who didn’t have any reasonable access to him. I do think JH knew EG was abusive to his son