Found Deceased KY - Savannah Spurlock, 22, left 'The Other Bar' with 2 men, Richmond, 4 Jan 2019 #3

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Since this forum has so much info already posted, here's a basic timeline of facts:

01/04/2019

22:00: Around this time, SS used her mother’s vehicle to drive herself and a friend approximately 45 minutes from home to Lexington KY to visit another friend. Mother’s car was left at friend’s house and the 3 friends left in a different car to the Other Bar.

SS left her coat and another purse in her mother’s vehicle at the friend’s house. (Later confirmed by PD)

The Other Bar is located at 319 S. Limestone in Lexington, MY.

SS leaves the Other Bar in Lexington with 3 men (at the time only 2 were mentioned). Per CCTV footage at a parking garage, she rode in the back seat of a vehicle with 2 of the men while the 3rd followed them in a separate vehicle. (Later stated by PD that the white male left the area in a black Chevy S-10.)

01/05/2019

03:00: Around this time mother receives a facetime call from SS. Mother states that she was able to see a man driving and that there were 1-2 people in the back seat who were ‘hollering and talking over each other’. States that SS did not appear to be upset.

AM hours: SS traveled about 40 miles from the bar to a home in Garrard County (later stated to be off Fall Lick Road confirmed SS reaching the home by PD the next day).

08:00: Around this time, mother woke up and SS was not home. She rang SS’s phone and it went straight to voicemail.

08:30: At about this time, SS’s phone was turned off.

Early Evening: Mother calls Richmond PD to report SS missing.

01/22/2019

PD executes a search warrant for the Garrard County home belonging to the parents of one of the 3 men SS left with. A car is seized from the property.

Richmond PD state they have identified the 3 men SS left with.

01/31/2019

Richmond PD confirm they are working with Garrard County Emergency Management amongst other organizations searching for SS in ‘specific areas’ of Garrard County.


02/07/2019

Richmond PD releases photos of items SS may have had with her when she went missing. Photos are of a small purse and a phone.

02/09/2019

Richmond PD confirm crews still searching an area off of Fall Lick Road in Garrard County.
Do you have link for 1/4/2019 - this conflicts with last report.

Mother reportedly saw SS in front seat during facetime call, and two people in back seat.
‘I’m begging you.’ Missing Kentucky woman’s mom thinks men have more to tell.
 
I am wondering how many more photos they have of them all leaving the bar....IMO there is probably more than what they have released. I'd think that area would reek of surveillance cameras beings it's so close to RUPP. All we seen was a truck with a headlight out but her mom said she was in a car when she FT'D her. Was they possibly waiting on a ride when the photo they shown last week looked like she was cold ? If so , I wonder if they got the make / model of that car . I just feel like there is more footage than what has been released or I'd sure hope there is.
I think you're right, maybe they were waiting for a ride. All four get in the white car, with Savannah in front passenger seat. White guy is in the back with long-haired person that Mom thought might be female. Black guy shown arm around SS ends up driving white car. They drive to white guy's truck, perhaps parked at Good Sam Hospital, and he exits to his truck. SS gets in back with long-haired guy. They drive to GC.

Have we ever seen a surveillance photo of the 3rd male? I know questions have come up about whether he is white or black, but does he have long hair?

LE towed the white car. Did whatever happened to SS actually begin to go all wrong right then in the back seat of the white car? Was she even alive when they arrived in GC?
 
I think you're right, maybe they were waiting for a ride. All four get in the white car, with Savannah in front passenger seat. White guy is in the back with long-haired person that Mom thought might be female. Black guy shown arm around SS ends up driving white car. They drive to white guy's truck, perhaps parked at Good Sam Hospital, and he exits to his truck. SS gets in back with long-haired guy. They drive to GC.

Have we ever seen a surveillance photo of the 3rd male? I know questions have come up about whether he is white or black, but does he have long hair?

LE towed the white car. Did whatever happened to SS actually begin to go all wrong right then in the back seat of the white car? Was she even alive when they arrived in GC?

I thought the truck guy drove alone to the house (was it his house?) and Savannah got into another car with 2 or three people in it. It's possible the woman 4th person the mom saw was dropped off well before they got to the house. Has it been confirmed they went from TOB directly to the home of one o the men? Could they have stopped at an all night diner or gone to another house? Is it possible the people the mom saw were dropped off and the third man is someone else. That's probably a stretch.
I would guess they were checking the white car for blood, semen any DNA that could prove there was a struggle or a rape. Did they search the truck? If she made it to the house and the truck was there there is a possibility she could have gotten into that.
 
Hi I am a new member to websleuths although I have been a long time lurker . Please correct me or remove my comment if it doesn’t fit into policy here while I’m learning the rules .
I have family that lives on the Mercer co side of Herrington lake about a mile from the bridge that crosses it . The bridge takes you across the lake to Garrard Co. and the house Savannah was last seen at is approximately about 20 or so minutes from several of my family members.
Just a thought but maybe Savannah felt comfortable leaving with them that night because she recognized one of the guys somehow either directly or indirectly and left because she needed a ride. She may have known him or maybe had a mutual friend so it may have seemed safer for her then walking and maybe she didn’t want to disturb anyone that late to come and get her . ( just a thought)

Welcome! That makes sense. One of the men or even someone they were talking to in the bar could have been a friend of a friend so she might have felt like they were safe. She might not have realized how far away they were going. It's easy to make assumptions that because someone is with a friend of a friend or if they are with another woman they are safe. I know the mom is less sure she saw a girl in the car now, than she was in the early interviews.
 
I thought you can't put their actual names out until they are POIs or declared suspects by LE.

I didnt see any specific names posted, but I just skimmed the post because I never read anything concerning what is being said on any FB groups or on any other social media sites anyway.

Imo

Are you saying you think the only rule is you can't put their name out if they're not suspects?

I'm thinking the Mods must go pretty easy when enforcing this rule. In this thread a member was asking questions about the three men Savannah rode with and some mentioned it was against the rules to discuss what she was asking.
Thing is many have posted what they feel the men did to her and that seems to be against the rules but isn't being stopped. Hopefully I'm understanding what the rules say but possibly others interpret them differently than I am.

Here's the rules I read pertaining to what we're discussing. Hope this isn't considered, off topic.

The "victim friendly" rule extends to the family members of victims and suspects. Sleuthing family members, friends, and others who have not been designated as suspects is not allowed. Don't make random accusations, suggest their involvement, nor bash and attack them. Posting their personal information, including names, addresses, and background data -- even if it is public -- is not allowed. That does not mean, however, that statements made by family members and other third parties cannot come into discussion as the facts of the case are reported in the media.
 
I thought the truck guy drove alone to the house (was it his house?) and Savannah got into another car with 2 or three people in it. It's possible the woman 4th person the mom saw was dropped off well before they got to the house. Has it been confirmed they went from TOB directly to the home of one o the men? Could they have stopped at an all night diner or gone to another house? Is it possible the people the mom saw were dropped off and the third man is someone else. That's probably a stretch.
I would guess they were checking the white car for blood, semen any DNA that could prove there was a struggle or a rape. Did they search the truck? If she made it to the house and the truck was there there is a possibility she could have gotten into that.
I’d have to go back through the articles but it seemed like it was implied that the third guy followed as she was driven to garrard co. There’s also interviews with the mom posted on here where she thought there were two other people in the back based on their voices bc it was too dark to actually make anything out. She actually thought it was a female. I think the fact that LE has stated that she was in the car with two guys, leads to there only being 3 total. They seem pretty insistent and have been since pretty early on when they discovered she was actually last with 3 guys and not the initial 2.

ETA: words
 
Are you saying you think the only rule is you can't put their name out if they're not suspects?

I'm thinking the Mods must go pretty easy when enforcing this rule. In this thread a member was asking questions about the three men Savannah rode with and some mentioned it was against the rules to discuss what she was asking.
Thing is many have posted what they feel the men did to her and that seems to be against the rules but isn't being stopped. Hopefully I'm understanding what the rules say but possibly others interpret them differently than I am.

Here's the rules I read pertaining to what we're discussing. Hope this isn't considered, off topic.

The "victim friendly" rule extends to the family members of victims and suspects. Sleuthing family members, friends, and others who have not been designated as suspects is not allowed. Don't make random accusations, suggest their involvement, nor bash and attack them. Posting their personal information, including names, addresses, and background data -- even if it is public -- is not allowed. That does not mean, however, that statements made by family members and other third parties cannot come into discussion as the facts of the case are reported in the media.

I think it’s just easier and causes less confusion to stick with what’s in MSM. It’s kept me out of trouble and it’s easy to pull up if there are any questions.
 
The three men have been identified by LE by via surveillance video and through msm. They have not been name or named as suspects. It’s my understanding this allows us to refer to them as the three men and speculate what their involvement may or may not be. It does not allow us however to sleuth them or any of their family members. JMO

And by sleuth, I mean post their personal information, post their Social media and certainly not use their names. Moo
 
Well that video answers a lot.

We now know that a search dog hit on a scent and that’s what led them to the latest search area. We know the pond was searched first on Saturday and then the surrounding area on Sunday. Still no sign of SS
 
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These images are important because it gives us a way to know how Savannah was feeling when these pictures were taken.

The picture on the far right. This looks like when Savannah was arriving at the Other Bar. Happy and wanting to have a good time.

The two pictures to the left. In the picture to the far left Savannah looks a bit upset to me, maybe worried. The next picture, beside the far left picture, looks like she is cold and waiting for something. These must have been taken after Savannah left the Other Bar.

The picture of Savannah walking with one of the three men show Savannah with her arm wrapped through his and his hands are in his pockets. This tells me she wants to be close to this man, not all three but one man.
 
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It's a crummy day to search. Today it's cold, rainy, and foggy. The roads are still wet from yesterday and we have a constant drizzle. Hopefully, though, they'll have a pretty good group of searchers out. This is meant to be the last day for the Cajuns, but other searchers will continue on throughout the week.

When I look at that picture of Savannah and see her a little upset, I have to wonder if it's because she'd been arguing with her friend.

I think she left with the men voluntarily, and I'm not sure she felt any real danger until much later. I do wonder, though, if they told her that they were going closer. Mileage-wise, Lexington to Garrard County may not look that far but it seems to take forever. 52 does go through Lancaster and connects it to Danville and Richmond, and then you have 27 that will take you up to Fayette, but it's a REALLY long drive. It's not a place I'd just pop in real quick-especially not at 2am. I have trouble reconciling the idea of Savannah telling her mother that she'd be home by later that morning, while knowing that she was on her way to Garrard County at that time of night. Going all the way down there, hanging out for a little bit, getting someone to drive her all the way back to Lex, and then turning around and driving back to Richmond? You're looking at a good 3 hours of traveling. When I was a family therapist, we covered 9 counties in central Kentucky and I remember days when I'd have to hit up Madison/Fayette/Garrard and they were very long days...When you're younger that may not bother you that much, but it's still something to consider.

This leads me to think that she didn't know where she was going until after she spoke to her mother on the phone OR there was a very good reason for her wanting to do down there.
 
In the statement made by Savannah's friends saying Savannah would not have gone that far with the men, she said something like this.

The friend said these men were out to pick up girls.

I'm thinking, yes but they only picked up one girl, Savannah.

My thoughts are, Savannah looks to have left with one man. The picture of Savannah close to one of the men tells me she wanted to be with this one man. Not a date for three men.

Why did Savannah go to the bar? Did she go to pick up a man?

The friend mentioned a Night cap. The friend said Savannah may have left with the three men to have a night cap. Found this an odd statement. Seems to me one drink after a night at a bar isn't how this usually goes with young people. They leave as a group to either go out and eat, drink more or do drugs or drink and do drugs. Possibly to have sex. Three men and one girl having sex, doubt this is the usual.

Savannah's friend said Savannah would never travel that far with three men. Thing is she did leave with three men and no matter how far they went, the fact it was one woman and three men is very risky with strangers. A setup for something very bad to happen to the one woman.

When I consider all of the above, I form the opinion Savannah did leave willingly, agreed to go 40 mile s away but she went to get to know the one man better or be with him longer and the two other men went along but not sure why. Guessing for them all to party which is a frightening situation for Savannah to put herself in.
Because Savannah had just given birth to twins, I'm doubting her mind was on having sex (intercourse) with the man she liked and was with. The fact she was with three men who were probably out to pick up women leaves me thinking their minds were on sex.

My conclusion is they either forced her into having sexual intercourse and she got sick and died because of complications from the birth of the twins or they scared her so badly she fled and something happened after she fled.

Think it's more likely she was raped, died and they disposed of the body. She may have fought them and died because of injuries from the fight.
 
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Does anyone know what SS did for a living? Did she have a job? A part of me wonders if she was involved in 'adult services' - if so, this would definitely place her in a much higher risk category. I am asking because several things simply do not 'feel' right to me; especially that the guys she left the bar with were apparently unknown to her. Mind you, I am not by any means judging, but I just haven't really seen anyone ask that particular question yet - we all know there are many people who keep secrets from their families...
She was unemployed
 
Wondering if the ground in Kentucky is frozen? Would it be difficult to have buried her?
 
Wondering if the ground in Kentucky is frozen? Would it be difficult to have buried her?

It's been frozen off and on all winter. We've had days that were below zero and days in which it literally hit 73. December was comparatively mild for us, as was January. We didn't start seeing steady days below freezing until towards the end of January. In addition to a fairly mild winter, we've had rain. Depending on what day a hole would've been dug, the ground may have been fine.
 
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