Found Deceased KY - Savannah Spurlock, 22, left 'The Other Bar' with 2 men, Richmond, 4 Jan 2019 #3

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I had logged off but took the time to look at your map.

I'm not from Ky but had a pretty good idea of where Richmond is, Lexington and Crab Apple where Savannah ended up. I took the time to bring up maps and distance of where everything is and Crab Apple is South of Richmond and the trip from Lexington to Crab Apple is a little over and hour and from Lexington to Richmond is 40 min.

When looking at the map, along with time and distance, I'm having a hard time thinking she would go that far just to party or be with the one guy longer. Good grief, how would she make it home in time for her Mom not to be upset and use the car.

I sure can't stick with any one theory. This is impossible to figure out.

Yep! That's exactly what I said in my super long post earlier today. I have a hard time believing that, too. Crab Orchard FEELS like it's out in the middle of nowhere (no offense to the Crab Orchardians). And if she was going to have the car back to her mother later that morning, she'd basically only have had time to get down there to the house, turn around, and go back to Lex to pick up the car. Hardly any time to hang out.Or whatever.
 
Did the friends fight or did she just not want to leave.
This is one of my top 3 frustrations with this investigation, and that is why aren't there more interviews done with her "friends" from that night, we hear from her mom and from her "best friend" ( who by the way wasn't with her) however I can't find any interviews with the friends she actually went out with.
 
There's no reliable information on that. I wish LE would release the friend's name so we could talk about her.

Didn’t her friend speak to the press? I thought she had said they did have an argument...not sure. It is here someplace. The friend who said she never would have gone so far with three men in a car?
 
For the heck of it, I got on my uber app and pretended like I was going to get a ride to Lexington or to Lancaster. For the record, there are 0 Uber drivers in my small town (which is right outside of Richmond). No shock there. We don't even have taxi service. There are a few in Richmond and I am sure, that for a good chunk of change, they'd take you to Lexington and vice versa. I've taken a taxi from Lexington to Richmond before and it was $45. That was 6 years ago. From outside of Lancaster back to Lexington or even to Richmond? Gosh, I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if there were any Uber drivers at all.

TL/DR Once she got down to Garrard County, it may have been difficult if not downright impossible to get a taxi or Uber ride to Richmond or Lexington. Her best bet would've been from downtown Lex. Still, that doesn't mean that one of the guys couldn't have driven her.

Thank you! I'm half tempted to download uber and see if they have drivers in GC. I have this thing about uber where I believe it's like paying to hitchhike. That's my issue. Taxis that aren't in big cities sometimes are happy for the business. It could be an expensive ride. Idk
 
This is one of my top 3 frustrations with this investigation, and that is why aren't there more interviews done with her "friends" from that night, we hear from her mom and from her "best friend" ( who by the way wasn't with her) however I can't find any interviews with the friends she actually went out with.

Yeah, that's who I was alluding to when I said there are others I'd like to hear from. The fact that Savannah and her friend argued is secondhand information from Savannah's mother. We haven't heard directly from the friend.

The two friends went to Lexington around 10 p.m. While at the bar, Savannah Spurlock’s friend left because the two got into an argument, Savannah’s mother said.

‘I’m begging you.’ Missing Kentucky woman’s mom thinks men have more to tell.
 
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Didn’t her friend speak to the press? I thought she had said they did have an argument...not sure. It is here someplace. The friend who said she never would have gone so far with three men in a car?

You are correct, her friend Sabrina gave that quote. That is not the same friend she was out with that night.
 
Can I ask you a question...how much does intent play into a case like this. For example an accident happened and the parties involved panicked? I'm not saying this occurred but am curious how that works legally?

My opinion doesn’t matter, but I think that if an accident happens, the panic of the other parties involved had darned better be expressed with a panicked phone call to 911, rather than a careful disposal of the body in a way that makes it impossible to know if the death WAS an accident.
 
My opinion doesn’t matter, but I think that if an accident happens, the panic of the other parties involved had darned better be expressed with a panicked phone call to 911, rather than a careful disposal of the body in a way that makes it impossible to know if the death WAS an accident.

Agree.

I think that if panic does play a part in it, the crime is still not totally innocent. There's usually something going on that makes the other party afraid of being caught.
 
They way people see you does matter. That applies both ways. If you give women the impression you are a nice wholesome guy they might get in your car. Look at Ted Bundy. Girls assumed he was injured and a fellow student sometimes and went to help him only to disappear. If someone is alone intoxicated and falling down or passed out you shouldn't have sex with them. You might think they are a party girl. Women should be able to go out walk through a parking lot and live to wake up the next day.

I agree with you but people do form opinions of others and it's only smart to be aware of that.

Most women who go home with men from bars don't end up getting raped. Thing is some do, so realize people form opinions of you by the way you present yourself.
 
Speculation and asking questions is kind of all were doing as we wait and hope for some news.

I know and I keep telling myself to quit posting because I've shared all of my theories.

After my recent post about how far that is from Lexington to Crab Orchard I thought of something new.

Why wouldn't Savannah have followed them with her car, they could have let her drop her Moms car off and headed to Crab Orchard after that. Or she just could have driven her car to Crab Orchard.

When considering the above, I have to wonder how much she had drank and was it leaving her unable to make good decisions.? Was anyone sober enough to be driving? Thinking one of the guys could have driven Savannah's car for her if they felt she was drunk and she or they didn't want her to drive.

I'm thinking now she was either really drunk and went with them not thinking about any consequences or they tricked her or possibly forced her into going that far. If so kidnapping may be tacked onto murder and other charges.
 
Because nearly every situation that is normal is considered a dangerous situation for women depending on the time, location, and company.

It’s true. Like it or not...women are at risk far more than men. It is not right, or fair etc...but it is a fact. I have always known it...and mostly did as much as I could to keep myself safe...but had lapses in my youth. Any one of which could have cost me my life.
 
I agree with you but people do form opinions of others and it's only smart to be aware of that.

Most women who go home with men from bars don't end up getting raped. Thing is some do, so realize people form opinions of you by the way you present yourself.

How you treat a woman who is separated from her friends and intoxicated says a lot about you. If you take her to your home and she vanishes that looks really bad.
 
I know and I keep telling myself to quit posting because I've shared all of my theories.

After my recent post about how far that is from Lexington to Crab Orchard I thought of something new.

Why wouldn't Savannah have followed them with her car, they could have let her drop her Moms car off and headed to Crab Orchard after that. Or she just could have driven her car to Crab Orchard.

When considering the above, I have to wonder how much she had drank and was it leaving her unable to make good decisions.? Was anyone sober enough to be driving? Thinking one of the guys could have driven Savannah's car for her if they felt she was drunk and she or they didn't want her to drive.

I'm thinking now she was either really drunk and went with them not thinking about any consequences or they tricked her or possibly forced her into going that far. If so kidnapping may be tacked onto murder and other charges.

Her mom said she was happy but visibly intoxicated. If someone else was sober they could have driven her car either to her moms or to the house. It's probably better they didn't because if the car was missing it would imply she left on her own.
 
Savannah would've known where Garrard was. HWY 52 runs straight through Richmond and if you follow it then you hit Paint Lick (just a wide place in the road) and then Lancaster. Lancaster's a cute little town, but in Richmond you wouldn't have much of a reason to go to it unless you know someone there or you want to go to on Danville. Still, you're aware of it. For one thing, one of the biggest roads in Richmond is Lancaster Avenue. The university sets on it. With that said, she may not have known where it was from Lexington. Whenever I think about getting to Lex from Garrard County, or vice versa, I have to really think about it. I could see her being there and being like, "Can we even get there from here?"

If the guys were from that area or had lived there for a long time, going to Lex was probably not a big deal, though I would almost bet money on the fact that they didn't go there often. It's where you'd go if you wanted a big night out, something special, but not a place you'd go to if you just wanted to drink. I feel the same way about Savannah's choice to go there. If you just wanted to get out and drink, there are more than enough places in Richmond. If you go to Lex, it's because you want a big night-something different.

When I lived in a big city, it was nothing to spend 30-45 minutes to get across town. In this area, though, it's different. On the map the distances don't look that far, but for those of us who live here, we're not jumping into the car and driving that distance for anything casual. In fact, many of us try to avoid Lexington if we can. There are generally other, closer places for the things you want. Lexington is a nice town, very pretty with a dining scene that gets better every day, but it's not a "destination" for most of us-at least not unless we're going there for something special.

So there are bars in Richmond? For some reason, I thought there wasn’t and that’s why she went to Lexington.
Perhaps it was because her girlfriend lived in Lexington.
 
Her friend said that she didn’t think Savannah would go all the way to GC. Savannah told her mother she would be home by morning. She had just had twins so sex would not have been safe from what many of you are telling me. So I’m doubting she meant to go to GC for that kind of hook-up, or for anything. When I was her age, if we were doing anything at 2 am after a night of drinking, it was likely we were heading to a nearby Waffle House for breakfast and to sober up. I’m betting Savannah thought they were heading to a Waffle House or something, then back to her car so she could drive home. Just because they ended up in GC doesn’t mean she willingly went there. I have gotten in a car before, believing we were headed one place, only to be taken somewhere else. I know what it’s like to have the mood suddenly change when you realize what’s actually happening.

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So if you would’ve gone to a Waffle House after hours, then that’s likely what she did? One key to effective theorizing is putting yourself in another person’s shoes and thinking the way they do, rather than putting another person in your shoes and having them think the way you do. Planning to go to a restaurant to sober up doesn’t usually include calling someone to say you won’t be home until morning.

Was “The Other Bar” a place she frequented, or was this a first? Her Aggravated DUI would seem to be a clue. If it was her pattern to drink there and leave with others, each time arriving home safely without incident, it sure wouldn’t be publicized. And if that’s the case, then it would be fair to say her reputation preceded her, and she would be on the radar of many different men who have but one thing in mind. Understanding that would go a long toward revealing whether any of those 3 guys had any sexual expectations of her as they all left. Giving her the benefit of the doubt that she was not of that mindset herself, one or more of those guys would certainly lull her into a false sense of security until they reached their destination after she checked in with her mom.
 
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So if you would’ve gone to a Waffle House after hours, then that’s likely what she did? One key to effective theorizing is putting yourself in another person’s shoes and thinking the way they do, rather than putting another person in your shoes and having them think the way you do. Planning to go to a restaurant to sober up doesn’t usually include calling someone to say you won’t be home until morning.
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It does seem to be what folks like to do around here. Waffle House, Tolly Hos, Shoneys (when they were still here), Perkins (may the Lexington location rest in peace), etc...you'll find just about any after hours restaurant in Lexington or Richmond packed full once the bars close. It's not unrealistic or out of the realm of possibility to think that Savannah would do something like that as well.
 
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