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IMO it seems there's been some sort of switch in who thinks Kyron is alive and who thinks he's deceased now. Up until this last little flurry of interviews by Kaine and Desiree, I would have said that Kaine seems to really think that Kyron is dead, (e.g., the unimaginable harm statement, etc.), and of course Desiree, has been saying all along she believes Kyron is stashed. Interestingly, now it sounds like their views are reversed, with Kaine fighting a legal fight for Kyron to come home, and Desiree saying she now thinks Terri did harm Kyron. IDK, just interesting, seems like they both did a 180.
 
I think it would be much harder for Kaine to believe that Terri could possibly kill Kyron than it would be to believe that she hid him away for some kind of revenge...it is one thing not to notice that your wife doesn't like your son, but who would want to have to admit that she killed him? It seems that the more the evidence points at Terri, the more Kaine insists Kyron is alive, while as we've seen, Desiree seems less certain.
 
cluciano63 said:
I think it would be much harder for Kaine to believe that Terri could possibly kill Kyron than it would be to believe that she hid him away for some kind of revenge...it is one thing not to notice that your wife doesn't like your son, but who would want to have to admit that she killed him? It seems that the more the evidence points at Terri, the more Kaine insists Kyron is alive, while as we've seen, Desiree seems less certain.
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I wonder if it's that, or if Kaine was given the advice that looking for a living Kyron would be more beneficial to the search efforts than for a "body" as it were... and Kaine is determinedly moving ahead with the best course of action laid out for them. Whereas Desiree is going to react as she reacts, and may dutifully say the words "I believe he's alive" while her face says she has lost (most of?) that hope.
 
ami said:
I wonder if it's that, or if Kaine was given the advice that looking for a living Kyron would be more beneficial to the search efforts than for a "body" as it were... and Kaine is determinedly moving ahead with the best course of action laid out for them. Whereas Desiree is going to react as she reacts, and may dutifully say the words "I believe he's alive" while her face says she has lost (most of?) that hope.
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I guess he would say Kyron is alive while addressing the public so that they will keep looking, which is normal, as long as LE is still looking in the places where it is less likely he would be found alive. He just needs to be found, either way. It is almost impossible to search for a live child-all one can do is be alert to the fact he is missing.

I do wish LE would at the very least come out and show Kyron's replica clothing, etc. again...it has been almost 6 months and other than those of us obsesed with this case, most people are probably no longer aware of the black t-shirt, black pants, etc...just remind people what to look for when they are hiking, etc.
 
BeanE said:
Kaine Horman speaks out about vicious legal battle
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 8:51 AM

KGW interview with Kaine - he wanted to clarify some of the points he made in his press conference on Monday.

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Reporter: Kaine Horman says he wishes his estranged wife, Terri, was still by his side, still helping in the search for Kyron Horman. He also says he knows wishing doesn't make it happen, and he believes she had something to do with Kyron's disappearance.


Reporter: Kaine wanted to speak today to clarify some points he made at a press conference earlier this week.

One thing that doesn't need any clearing up - his focus on finding his son.

Kaine: This is the most difficult thing I've ever been through in my life.


Kaine: This is all about him and his sister, and there should be no doubt about that.


Reporter: In the divorce proceedings, Kaine accuses Terri of drunkenness, and sending sexually explicit text messages to another man. Kaine says he understands why some consider that mudslinging. He sees it differently.

Kaine: The legal fight for Kyron is at our doorstep right now. Even the judge has stated that this is all about finding Kyron and bringing him home, and there should be nothing that prevents that or deters from that, and this is definitely not deterring from it in one bit.


Reporter: Kaine also says he's focused on protecting the couple's daughter. He says Terri has already caused more damage to the young girl then she'll ever be able to repair, and says visitation rights for Terri would only hurt the girl more.

Kaine: To then come back and file and say hey, we're doing stuff in the best interest of the child, I don't think she has any idea what it means to do something in the best interest of any child at this point.


Kaine: Don't worry for a second. We're out here looking for you. And we just, we just love you more than anything else.


http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Kaine-Horman-speaks-out-about-vicious-legal-battle-109227234.html
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Thx's B... I had not seen this anywhere until today...OMG...so sad, so very sad. And by the way, just to let you know, I so appreciate all that you do with the your research. I wished to be so smart in my lifetime. Thank You !
 
cluciano63 said:
I guess he would say Kyron is alive while addressing the public so that they will keep looking, which is normal, as long as LE is still looking in the places where it is less likely he would be found alive. He just needs to be found, either way. It is almost impossible to search for a live child-all one can do is be alert to the fact he is missing.

I do wish LE would at the very least come out and show Kyron's replica clothing, etc. again...it has been almost 6 months and other than those of us obsesed with this case, most people are probably no longer aware of the black t-shirt, black pants, etc...just remind people what to look for when they are hiking, etc.
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Yeah, that's pretty much it... just that people will only look at the faces of young boys in stores, on the street, in restaurants, etc. and compare those faces to Kyron's if they think Kyron is alive.
 
Billylee said:
Reporter: Kaine Horman says he wishes his estranged wife, Terri, was still by his side, still helping in the search for Kyron Horman. He also says he knows wishing doesn't make it happen, and he believes she had something to do with Kyron's disappearance.


I gotta wonder what Desiree thinks of this statement? Maybe we'll hear some more from her.
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Personally, I don't find it a big deal. I think it makes sense.

The holidays are approaching. Kaine's been mindful of that, even saying that the holidays would be a chance for him and Desiree to repair the strain between them.

Kaine's position has to be a lonely place to be, especially as Thanksgiving approaches and families gather together for the holiday.

What he is saying, in my opinion, is that he wishes his estranged wife had not done the things that she has, and that she were there to support him through this.

Wouldn't anyone want to go through something like this with one's supportive spouse beside them, instead of split from the spouse because the spouse attempted to hire someone to murder him and more than likely murdered his child?

It's got to be lonely in the house in the woods on Sheltered Nook. Even with the baby there, who does he have that he can talk to, get it out, at midnight when he wakes up with worry and anxiety?

My heart goes out to him.
 
Mylou said:
BBM

I have a difficult time understanding Kaine, what does he mean by wishing that his estranged wife was by his side, but wishing doesn't make it so ? This man believes that his estranged wife tried to have him murdered, and believes she had his son disappear, and he still wishes that she was by his side, this alcholic , nasty woman, who hates him and his son ?
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I thought it was an odd comment too, Mylou. It was one of those things that he might not have said if he had thought it through more carefully. What I make of it is something on the order of this: 'I thought my married life was good enough to get by. I thought Terri was working on her problems and we were working it out. The way I thought of Terri was a delusion, but I wish no one had burst my bubble. I wish we could have just gone on pretending it would be okay, because life back then was not great, but it was better than this. It was good enough.'

I think many of us do this when we sense something's going off the rails in slow motion in our lives. We think 'well, I've changed a couple of things, and I'm aware of this problem and I'm keeping my eye on it' but all we've actually done is gloss it over and perpetuate it. Enabling it, maybe, while thinking we're 'fixing' it.

The part that's so ill-advised about saying this in the interview is that it shows he is still clueless that the status quo he found so comfortable was the status quo that was making his little boy absolutely miserable.

I'm not bashing Kaine because to me, the evidence is right in his own comment: He still doesn't get it.
 
My heart feels for Kaine. Many people stay in troubled mariages trying to make things work. Kaine obviously didnt suspect Terri could have hurt Kyron. Spouses think the best of each other and he could have thought she was depressed and that things would get better. There is no way Kaine could have known. Many step families go through times where the children dont get on with the step parent. Its a big jump from that to abducting a child. I dont believe that Kaine ever thought Terri could hurt kyon. As any parent would he clealy feels guilt he didnt protect kyron, I hope kyron is found soon to give these parents answers.
 
DreamyEye said:
Mylou said:
BBM

I have a difficult time understanding Kaine, what does he mean by wishing that his estranged wife was by his side, but wishing doesn't make it so ? This man believes that his estranged wife tried to have him murdered, and believes she had his son disappear, and he still wishes that she was by his side, this alcholic , nasty woman, who hates him and his son ?
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I thought it was an odd comment too, Mylou. It was one of those things that he might not have said if he had thought it through more carefully. What I make of it is something on the order of this: 'I thought my married life was good enough to get by. I thought Terri was working on her problems and we were working it out. The way I thought of Terri was a delusion, but I wish no one had burst my bubble. I wish we could have just gone on pretending it would be okay, because life back then was not great, but it was better than this. It was good enough.'

I think many of us do this when we sense something's going off the rails in slow motion in our lives. We think 'well, I've changed a couple of things, and I'm aware of this problem and I'm keeping my eye on it' but all we've actually done is gloss it over and perpetuate it. Enabling it, maybe, while thinking we're 'fixing' it.

The part that's so ill-advised about saying this in the interview is that it shows he is still clueless that the status quo he found so comfortable was the status quo that was making his little boy absolutely miserable.

I'm not bashing Kaine because to me, the evidence is right in his own comment: He still doesn't get it.
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I had a different take. I don't think he meant "I wish I never found out what was happening behind my back" --- I thought he meant, "I wish the Terri I believed her to be was the Terri she actually was."
 
Reporter: Kaine Horman says he wishes his estranged wife, Terri, was still by his side, still helping in the search for Kyron Horman. He also says he knows wishing doesn't make it happen, and he believes she had something to do with Kyron's disappearance.

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Kaine-Horman-speaks-out-about-vicious-legal-battle-109227234.html
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Could Kaine's comment be interpreted another way entirely? - see BBM part above.

Could it mean that Kaine actually wishes Terri was still by his side helping in the search for Kyron. That Kaine wishes instead of Terri refusing to help, that Terri would opened her entire self up - and all of her "associates" for examination so LE could sift through all the characters and figure out who might have Kyron. Could Kaine believe that if Terri would cooperate completely that they'd be better able to find Kyron.

And, could we read this statement from Kaine "that way" - especially considering this zinger from Kaine - same time frame:

Kaine said "so, yeah, I think he's still alive"...

(which is a tough statement for me to understand too! I don't understand why Kaine wants Terri helping him look for Kyron, nor do I understand why Kaine thinks Kyron is still alive, yet, he's said these things...)

What do we really know, though, about Terri's involvement? Could she be protecting someone who disappeared Kyron? Is that someone from her double life that they are trying to figure out?

Also consider this comments (I'm not quoting exactly - but I think these are well known).

From Desiree: Kyron was involved - in the whole thing - Kyron saw everything.

It makes me wonder what they are talking about. Does it sound like a cult abduction or something? ... It's so strange. Very strange.

I feel bad for Kaine & Desiree, and realize they need to protect so much on the investigation information - but it's frustrating when we get tidbits from them that seem less like information and more like riddles...

Apparently, they've both stopped begging Terri to cooperate and talk...That tactic has not been used this time around... Wonder why? :cow:
 
tiredblondy said:
Wonder how tough she will be in the big house...(our saying for the big prison)

Kaine's plea to Kyron was heartbreaking! That is what makes TH happy, seeing Kaine and Desiree suffer. There is no doubt in my mind!

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you know what? sadly I agree.. Seeing the two of these parents in such pain and anguish..literally unrecognizable from the vibrant and healthy and happy human beings they were 6+ months ago...This breaks our hearts, many of us shed tears of sympathy and empathy for them, as well as many are us are protective of these shells of human beings, their souls literally shredded from the pain and anguish, and it angers many of us to see their already shredded souls to be persecuted and blamed.. as if that even matters when their hearts are shattered from whats been done to their son...

But I agree that Terri delights in all of the above...To see Kaine a skeleton, a shell of the man she was married to, literally broken beyond repair..Terri is gleeful over this..As this was her intention...Hurt Kaine..hurt him for not paying attn to her, hurt him for the affair{which could quite possibly be only a delusional of this mentally ill woman}..hurt Kaine for not appreciating what he had...her, Terri Moulton..Too bad he didn't realize this and treat her accordingly..he wouldn't be in this condition if he had appropriately appreciated andtreated her{<-all of course her thinking}..

Then she sees Desiree.. A woman whom is also visibly a shell of what she once was..Broken and in unbearable pain... Terri too derives glee, happiness, and sense of her purpose has been well served..
Sick when Terri is the only one who should have anyone angry at her{over the affair when DY was pregnant with Kyron}..but her sick and deluded mind instead has only had hate and jealousy for Desiree..cause deep down she knew she could never compare to Desiree{nomatter how pumped up she was} Desiree was always more beautiful than Terri{both inside and out}..
and Terri is seeking pleasure from both of these broken beings pain, anguish, and despair..

She WILL NEVER GIVE THEM THE CLOSURE THAT THEY SO DESPERATELY ARE SEEKING...NEVER..SHE IS DELIGHTING AND ENJOYING IN THE VERY THING THAT YOU AND I ARE CRYING OVER..
 
I feel bad for Kaine too. The penalty for wanting to believe in Terri and wanting his marriage to succeed should not be the loss or even temporary disappearance of his son. I just feel that Kaine is going to be in for even more sadness and guilt (which he has already expressed) when he fully realizes what Kyron's life with Terri was like. Kaine may even have felt at the time it was going on that he needed to make the marriage work for Kyon's sake, knowing that Kyron was already living with the fallout from Kaine's split from Desiree.

Regardless of her level of involvement in the disappearance, most of the stuff that's come about TH points to her being a skilled manipulator. Kaine saw her the way she wanted him to see her, and I think he's just started to see that now, since the MFH thing came to light. Has he grasped all the implications of it, though? That's where I think there's more for him to face as the scales of denial fall from his eyes.

And at this point, I don't think there is much that can redeem TH, even if it comes out that someone else was responsible for the whole crime. The damage she has inflicted on Kyron, baby K, Desiree, and Kaine has been done, and I don't see it being any easier for anyone in the family if it turns out that she's technically innocent.
 
Summarizing as watching (please forgive typos)

- has a few theories what happened but would rather not say as he doesn't want to jeopardize the case
- didn't have an "OMG" moment re: Terri until after Kyron was missing
- "I stood by her until I couldn't stand by her anymore."
- A lot of things have been found out that 'are shocking' and he never saw them coming.
- Life has settled into an new normal.
- "We'll be whole when he comes back."
- TH kept alcoholism hidden (gradual progression)
- Finances kept separate.
- "We can't lose focus on Kyron and bringing him home."
 
- At mall passing out flyers; people didn't know Kyron was still missing
"I know he's out there and I know he can hear us talking."
 
Didn't really have anything new, IMO. He couldn't comment on most of the questions because of the ongoing divorce and case. He's really holding on to Kyron still being alive.
 
FaerieB said:
Summarizing as watching (please forgive typos)

- has a few theories what happened but would rather not say as he doesn't want to jeopardize the case
- didn't have an "OMG" moment re: Terri until after Kyron was missing
- "I stood by her until I couldn't stand by her anymore."
- A lot of things have been found out that 'are shocking' and he never saw them coming.
- Life has settled into an new normal.
- "We'll be whole when he comes back."
- TH kept alcoholism hidden (gradual progression)
- Finances kept separate.
- "We can't lose focus on Kyron and bringing him home."
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BBM..."shocking"...we have heard that before from LE.

I think this is one case that will be worthy of the term "bombshells!"
 
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