LA LA - Belle Chasse, WhtMale 16-17, UP88342, hanged, suicide note, Feb'75 #2

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It’s entirely possible that he was never reported missing by family too. Again hundreds of families, lots of kids went missing around that time, many aren’t reported missing, records lost, etc. Genetic genealogy would likely solve this one, if the body could be found. Or if the location of the body is given up to close the case.

Cousins and Wallace are EXCELLENT potential matches, I’m personally onboard with Cousins.
But one of their mothers went to see Doe’s body and didn’t identify him as her son, and maybe that’s a good indication to look elsewhere but keep them both in mind as matches.
Undoubtedly, this young man was intelligent, cared about his family enough to say goodbye. If he was 16-17 that’s a child committing suicide. That’s enough for LE to investigate - right??

However, I agree with everyone on here that he must have been college age, based on the writing.
I’m looking through census records to see if anyone from that time period had a son with a dob on Feb 14 around the area. Family search has been awesome they have lots of records from Belle Chasse specifically.
We’re all trying to accomplish the same thing, no point in having a forum for discussion if nothing can be offered up
 
cenazoic said:
Yes, Belle Chasse as well; I was just writing a simplified answer.

I’m simply suggesting you review what’s already been done by many Websleuthers over the years.

I’m not optimistic because even if you (or anyone) comes up with really compelling missing person (and people have; see: Bayard Cousins and Charles Wallace) there’s ultimately no way to prove his identity. Cousins and Wallace are still missing, and we don’t have their DNA (although I think Cousins may have a living sibling?).

So even if the coroner/LE could be convinced to dig up BCJD’s grave, there’s no DNA to compare him to, unless they decided to do genetic genealogy on him, which is unlikely due to his status as a suicide rather than homicide victim. (Not to say it couldn’t happen, just that it’s extremely unlikely.)

Obviously, I still follow this case so I must not consider it a completely lost cause, but at the same time I’m not holding my breath.
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Lyle Stevik committed suicide, was later identified due to a lengthy investigation, DNA and family never reported him missing. Suicides are investigated all the time.
 
Of course, I noted that. However, for BCJD in particular, there’s just a lot working against his identification - it’ll be 55 years in 2025, loss of records, more current (ie pressing) cases in a notoriously poor state, etc. Just my opinion.

Regardless of that, the reason I’ve encouraged you to look at past research done is because a) fresh eyes are always a good thing, and b) to save you some time so you don’t go down well-travelled trails.

Anyway, it’s starting to ‘feel’ like you’re taking my lack of optimism as somehow personal to you, and it’s not at all. Knock yourself out! I’m sure we’ll all be interested to hear what new things you find! :)
 
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Amateur Web Sleuth said:
It’s entirely possible that he was never reported missing by family too. Again hundreds of families, lots of kids went missing around that time, many aren’t reported missing, records lost, etc. Genetic genealogy would likely solve this one, if the body could be found. Or if the location of the body is given up to close the case.

Cousins and Wallace are EXCELLENT potential matches, I’m personally onboard with Cousins.
But one of their mothers went to see Doe’s body and didn’t identify him as her son, and maybe that’s a good indication to look elsewhere but keep them both in mind as matches.
Undoubtedly, this young man was intelligent, cared about his family enough to say goodbye. If he was 16-17 that’s a child committing suicide. That’s enough for LE to investigate - right??

However, I agree with everyone on here that he must have been college age, based on the writing.
I’m looking through census records to see if anyone from that time period had a son with a dob on Feb 14 around the area. Family search has been awesome they have lots of records from Belle Chasse specifically.
We’re all trying to accomplish the same thing, no point in having a forum for discussion if nothing can be offered up
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Neither Mrs Cousins or Mrs Wallace went to Mothe Funeral Home to identify the body they had there. There is a hand written list of people who went to the funeral home on thread #1
 
Courtaine said:
I suggest you read the entire two threads before 'correcting' anybody. Thank you, and thank you for taking an interest.
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original thread #1 my post is 370 just to show how long I’ve been on this with theories and READINGGGG THE THREAD

Wallace’s mothers article is #625, #626 with newspaper proof

I’ll wait for an apology… ;)
 
Courtaine said:
Hi Romulus
I think his skin tone is too light for Hispanic, i keep circling back to the coroner and the funeral home, if he was of Hispanic descent it would have been noted there.

I think we have the right candidates in our top two or three. I still can't get into my Namus account, I've locked myself out because I failed to remember my favorite food. So I cannot put forward exclusions on the list.

I checked Bayard Cousins investigator, it's a woman called Kirsty or Kristy I think, the contact detail page has been moved so I don't know how to get hold of her now to forward PJD's page on Namus to her along with this thread.

I'm also waiting to hear back from a YouTube channel that does John and Jane Does as to if she is interested in adding PJD to one of her videos. Hold thumbs. God Bless all.
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Try!
 
Doe Network

3832UMLA - Unidentified Male​

ALT TXT

Reconstruction of Victim

Date of Discovery: February 14, 1975
Location of Discovery: Belle Chasse, Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana
Estimated Date of Death: Recent
State of Remains: Recognizable face
Cause of Death: Suicide by hanging

Physical Description​

Estimated Age: 16-18 years old
Race: White
Gender: Male
Height: 5'10"-6'0" Estimated
Weight: 150-160 lbs, Estimated
Hair Color: Brown, short
Eye Color: Brown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Slightly protruding front teeth

Identifiers​

Dentals: Not available
Fingerprints: Not available
DNA: Not available

Clothing & Personal Items​

Clothing: Maroon & yellow long-sleeved Puritan knit shirt; blue Arrow pants with a brown belt; one grey & one dark blue socks; no shoes
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Discovery​

A couple driving through the woods on a farm road between Highway 23 and the Mississippi River, found the body of the decedent hanging from a limb of a persimmon tree, a bedsheet tied around his neck.

Against the tree was a jar full of note paper. Inside was a suicide note addressed to his parents:

"Mom and Dad,

You have provided be excellent advantages and privileges and experiences. I am extremely grateful for all of your sacrifices, time and support. I am now repaying you with an arrogant act. In this light, I do see it as criminal. I can only hope that you see that it was me who caused it.

I never did develop into a real person and I cannot tolerate the false and empty existence I have created.

It is best if I cease to live, quietly, than risk that later I will break and shatter by violence or linger years under care. I implore you to see a psychiatrist in order that you might understand my death and my life. Ask thoroughly about what I was and you will see that it is not tragic that I am gone but more natural than if I continued.

I was born with a definite pervasive melancholy. What frustrated me most in the last year was that I had built no ties to family or friends. There was nothing of lasting worth and value. I led a detached existence and I was a parody of a person-literally and figuratively. I didn't tell jokes-I was a joke.

I am a bomb of frustration and should never marry or have children. It is safest to defuse the bomb harmlessly now. I do not want to bother with being a "reformed and cured" person limping through life. I am this self-centered.

I am no longer interested in the world and know that it is not interested in me. When you stop growing you are dead. I stopped growing long ago."

The decedent cited the writing of Emile Durkheim, a philosopher and psychologist. He also added this aside to authorities:

You are bound to preserve domestic peace and order. If you pursue who I was (and spend hundreds of dollars) you will accomplish little. There are no legal consequences of my death or any kind of entanglements. All that can happen is that you will shatter the domestic peace and order of two innocent lives. Do not deprive them of the hope that their "missing" son will return. Let me be, let it be as if I wasn't ever here. Simply cremate me as John Doe."

There are no surviving reports/records from either the Plaquemines Parish Sheriff's Office or Coroner's Office. At the time of discovery, the decedent's fingerprints had been circulated to police across the country.

Investigating Agency(s)​

Agency Name: LSU FACES Laboratory
Agency Contact Person: Unknown
Agency Phone Number: 225-578-4761
Agency E-Mail:faces@lsu.edu
Agency Case Number: LSU 22-05 / 117-15-979

Agency Name: Plaquemines Parish Sheriff's Office
Agency Contact Person: Unknown
Agency Phone Number: 504-564-2525
Agency E-Mail: Unknown
Agency Case Number:Unknown

NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: UP88342

Information Source(s)​

NamUs
LSU FACES Lab
The Memphis Press-Scimitar - Mar. 26, 1975
 
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