GUILTY LA - Jaren Lockhart, 22, New Orleans, 5 June 2012 - #6

[pendyjo]

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/05/suspect_confessed_to_jaren_loc.html

Terry Speaks confessed that he and MAS killed and dismembered Jaren. They also tried to take off the skin with tattoos. Stab wound to the heart killed her. May they rot in a place of fire!! Justice for Jaren.

 

[Clodumbo]

Again -I know this is a re-post, but I really want to refresh everybody's memory. Jaren's torso had to have been dropped at the Garfield Ladner Memorial Pier. When I originally posted this, the pier was open. I think the rest of her body parts were dumped at a different site (a bridge) to confuse the investigators.


I have finally completed my “road trip” from the Silver Slipper Casino area to where South Beach Blvd and Bay Oaks Drive meet. After checking out several locations like the Clermont Harbor and the areas of Buccaneer State Park, etc.

I have came to the conclusion that the Garfield Ladner Memorial Pier in Waveland, maybe the spot of where JL remains were dropped.

Oceanographers studying tide flow and wind currents determined Lockhart’s body could not have traveled into Mississippi waters from outside the state in the amount of time between her disappearance and the discovery of her remains, Saucier said.


Here are some very interesting facts -
• The report from the Oceanographers.
• The pier location, it’s approximately 1.5 miles from where the torso was found.
• I can actually see the Garfield Ladner Memorial Pier from that spot at Bay Oaks Dr. and South Beach Boulevard location with my binoculars.
• I can see the direction of the water when I was on the Garfield Pier (winds were from the Southwest – same as the day in question.)
• The pier has numerous outdoor water faucets with garden hoses, even at the very end of the pier. This is handy if you need to "clean up" any blood.
• The end of the pier has deeper water which is known for shark fishing.
• There are no security cameras.
• I only saw about 6 fisherman on the pier on Sunday at 2pm. Must be less people fishing around 3am during inclement weather?
• Admission is free and the pier does not have a Pier Ranger on Duty at all times. Their website has outdated information.
• According to their Facebook Page – Hours are: Wed - Thu: 6:00 pm - 2:00 am
• However, the stairs to the pier are not locked, so anybody can get access.
Source: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Garfie...10219525659409

Finally the pier is about 1,000 to 1,200 feet long according to my estimates.

I challenge anybody to make a road trip and decide for themselves. I know that the pier is currently closed due to the Hurricane damage, but you can walk from the Garfield Ladner Memorial Pier to where Jaren's torso was found near where South Beach Blvd and Bay Oaks Drive meet.

- Clodumbo

 

[SwampMama]

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/05/suspect_confessed_to_jaren_loc.html

Terry Speaks confessed that he and MAS killed and dismembered Jaren. They also tried to take off the skin with tattoos. Stab wound to the heart killed her. May they rot in a place of fire!! Justice for Jaren.

While I hate to hear how Jaren died, I am quite happy that the good news about how this case is finally being brought to justice is quite satisfying. MS and TS are finally turning on each other and all will be revealed. Justice for Jaren is finally a reality!!

 

[Lilac Wine]

With all of the recent developments, I am still of the opinion that these two went out in search of someone to kill and dismember...for the fun of it. With the Luka Magnotta video in the news very shortly before Jaren's murder and Sanchez's "relationship" with Addie Hall (as well as her upcoming interview in the tv show about Addie), I just don't think it was a spur of the moment murder. They were on a hunt that night, IMO.

 

[Vann]

Again -I know this is a re-post, but I really want to refresh everybody's memory. Jaren's torso had to have been dropped at the Garfield Ladner Memorial Pier. When I originally posted this, the pier was open. I think the rest of her body parts were dumped at a different site (a bridge) to confuse the investigators.


I have finally completed my “road trip” from the Silver Slipper Casino area to where South Beach Blvd and Bay Oaks Drive meet. After checking out several locations like the Clermont Harbor and the areas of Buccaneer State Park, etc.

I have came to the conclusion that the Garfield Ladner Memorial Pier in Waveland, maybe the spot of where JL remains were dropped.

Oceanographers studying tide flow and wind currents determined Lockhart’s body could not have traveled into Mississippi waters from outside the state in the amount of time between her disappearance and the discovery of her remains, Saucier said.


Here are some very interesting facts -
• The report from the Oceanographers.
• The pier location, it’s approximately 1.5 miles from where the torso was found.
• I can actually see the Garfield Ladner Memorial Pier from that spot at Bay Oaks Dr. and South Beach Boulevard location with my binoculars.
• I can see the direction of the water when I was on the Garfield Pier (winds were from the Southwest – same as the day in question.)
• The pier has numerous outdoor water faucets with garden hoses, even at the very end of the pier. This is handy if you need to "clean up" any blood.
• The end of the pier has deeper water which is known for shark fishing.
• There are no security cameras.
• I only saw about 6 fisherman on the pier on Sunday at 2pm. Must be less people fishing around 3am during inclement weather?
• Admission is free and the pier does not have a Pier Ranger on Duty at all times. Their website has outdated information.
• According to their Facebook Page – Hours are: Wed - Thu: 6:00 pm - 2:00 am
• However, the stairs to the pier are not locked, so anybody can get access.
Source: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Garfie...10219525659409

Finally the pier is about 1,000 to 1,200 feet long according to my estimates.

I challenge anybody to make a road trip and decide for themselves. I know that the pier is currently closed due to the Hurricane damage, but you can walk from the Garfield Ladner Memorial Pier to where Jaren's torso was found near where South Beach Blvd and Bay Oaks Drive meet.

- Clodumbo

Didn't the news report say that the body was dumped from the bay bridge from information (tide movement from that night) given by Stennis? Also there are reporters reporting from the bay bridge repeating that piece of info.

 

[Vann]

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/05/suspect_confessed_to_jaren_loc.html

 

[Lilac Wine]

Didn't the news report say that the body was dumped from the bay bridge from information (tide movement from that night) given by Stennis? Also there are reporters reporting from the bay bridge repeating that piece of info.

The article that I linked above did earlier state that Jaren was dumped over the Bay St. Louis bridge. Now it says "into the water somewhere between the bridge and Long Beach, Mississippi, 11 miles to the east along Highway 90."

It is all so very, very disturbing. It's good to know they are BOTH are behind bars now.

 

[bessie]

He was actually smirking when he talked of the interview they had in NY. That indicated to me that TS rolled big time.

Yep. That was part of the reason for my post this morning. It was pretty obvious TS had spilled the beans. I didn't hear the word "confessed" used, however. Maybe I'm mincing words, but as a news headline, I think it's premature and somewhat misleading. JMO

The only thing that happened in the past two weeks was the "so called interview in NY. Kenner has had the same amount of time as hancock county to figure this thing out. The house is in La, the car in LA, the bar footage in LA, the suspects and victim from LA. But according to Kenner LE ....hancock county dropped the ball.....OH PLEASE

I posted some thoughts about this a couple of weeks ago, and that was before I knew the car had been picked up by the license plate recognition cameras. Where the heck else would the crime have occurred? It seems to me that the case should've been turned over to Kenner a long time ago. Was Hancock County reluctant to do so? If yes, that would explain Caraway's disapproval.

Investigators used automated license-plate recognition cameras in Jefferson Parish and St. Tammany to track the couple's movements after they left the club, according to Caraway. The cameras documented the car linked to Sanchez driving into Kenner towards Sanchez's home in the 2000 block of Connecticut Avenue.

Some time later, the cameras spotted the car driving to Mississippi, where it remained for "just a brief time" before returning to the New Orleans area, Caraway said on Thursday.

I also noted that Caraway skirted the issue of the exact location of the murder, but did say, "could have been in the car...outside the house". Time will tell, but I hold to my theory that JL's body was moved from/to the car via the field behind the house, and that the dismemberment took place in the backyard and/or garage of the Kenner residence, which provided time, privacy, and means to perform the task and clean up afterward. JMO

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/05/kenner_police_book_margaret_sa.html

As an aside, this is the second time in recent weeks that we've heard automatic license plate recognition cameras played a part in local murder investigations. They also were instrumental in solving the Kenneth and Lakeitha Joseph murders in New Orleans back in February.

Found Deceased LA - Lakeitha, 29, & Kenneth Joseph, 34, St. John Parish, 18 Feb 2014 **ARRESTS** - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[ktgirl]

Bessie, I think you're right about the spot in back of the Connecticut house being where JL's body was dismembered (and where they tried to remove the skin w/ her tattoos .....these people are sick).

When MAS was first arrested with TS in 2012, I thought MAS might roll on him. After all, she found out they weren't legally married, etc. I think she found out she had really been bamboozled by him & I thought she'd roll on him for sure. But she didn't. I'm betting now she's wishing she had.

Posts about MAS thinking she was married to TS:
1) Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased LA - Jaren Lockhart, 22, New Orleans, 05 June 2012 - #5

2) Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased LA - Jaren Lockhart, 22, New Orleans, 05 June 2012 - #2
(and there are others throughout Jaren's threads)

 

[ktgirl]

If we suppose Jaren was killed/dismembered in the car and/or at the Kenner house....what physical evidence was still at Sanchez's dad's house on Phlox Ave nearly two years after the murder?
Did MAS keep something of Jaren's?

 

[aeris]

Since the news articles didn't use the word "confession" in regards to TS spilling the beans, and he said that they killed "a girl" (without mentioning Jaren's name), I'm thinking there's a chance that he might have told a fellow inmate about the murder (and that fellow inmate spilled the details to law enforcement)? Is that a possibility?

 

[ktgirl]

Since the news articles didn't use the word "confession" in regards to TS spilling the beans, and he said that they killed "a girl" (without mentioning Jaren's name), I'm thinking there's a chance that he might have told a fellow inmate about the murder (and that fellow inmate spilled the details to law enforcement)? Is that a possibility?

Based on that wording, that's what I think is likely. Maybe the two new witnesses are his cell mates or prison buddies?

 

[Clodumbo]

Didn't the news report say that the body was dumped from the bay bridge from information (tide movement from that night) given by Stennis? Also there are reporters reporting from the bay bridge repeating that piece of info.

Thanks for that information, however I would have to respectfully disagree with you and the news reporters.

Well, I did had the link of the winds coming from the Southwest, but that link no longer exists from 2012. Again, I challenge you or any news reporter to walk or drive the distance from the Garfield Ladner Memorial Pier to where Jaren's torso was found near where South Beach Blvd and Bay Oaks Drive meet. It's really not that far and that is where the winds were blowing during that time. The torso would be the heaviest part. It would make sense for them to dispose of it from the pier.

Remember, I am only talking about her torso only, not the rest of her body that was probably dispose of at the bay bridge.

-Clodumbo

 

[Ms. Shagwell]

The article that I linked above did earlier state that Jaren was dumped over the Bay St. Louis bridge. Now it says "into the water somewhere between the bridge and Long Beach, Mississippi, 11 miles to the east along Highway 90."

It is all so very, very disturbing. It's good to know they are BOTH are behind bars now.

A friend of mine who lived in Bay St. Louis when Katrina hit and still has family there said that the Bay Bridge is well lit and used nite and day by walkers and runners. She also said the railing is a bit high as is the one on the pier which is used 24 hrs. She is wondering if LE has investigated spots in Bayou Lacroix which feeds into the Sound near the Bay or the deserted part of South Diamondhead. I always thought some of the photos of Jaren looked like they were from the Diamondhead area. And then there's the beautiful one of her holding her daughter in the air with the pier in the background.

 

[bessie]

If we suppose Jaren was killed/dismembered in the car and/or at the Kenner house....what physical evidence was still at Sanchez's dad's house on Phlox Ave nearly two years after the murder?
Did MAS keep something of Jaren's?

A hair sample, or samples of MAS's DNA, possibly. They might not have gotten a cheek swab when she was picked up with TS. It's hard to imagine she would have kept clothes she was wearing that night, or anything used in the crime.

JMO

 

[bessie]

Thanks for that information, however I would have to respectfully disagree with you and the news reporters.

Well, I did had the link of the winds coming from the Southwest, but that link no longer exists from 2012. Again, I challenge you or any news reporter to walk or drive the distance from the Garfield Ladner Memorial Pier to where Jaren's torso was found near where South Beach Blvd and Bay Oaks Drive meet. It's really not that far and that is where the winds were blowing during that time. The torso would be the heaviest part. It would make sense for them to dispose of it from the pier.

Remember, I am only talking about her torso only, not the rest of her body that was probably dispose of at the bay bridge.

-Clodumbo

I'm inclined to agree with you, unless two locations were launching points.

MAP here for refernence.

WUNDERGROUND June 7, 2012

WUNDERGROUND June 8, 2012

WUNDERGROUND June 9, 2012

 

[tmg]

A friend of mine who lived in Bay St. Louis when Katrina hit and still has family there said that the Bay Bridge is well lit and used nite and day by walkers and runners. She also said the railing is a bit high as is the one on the pier which is used 24 hrs. She is wondering if LE has investigated spots in Bayou Lacroix which feeds into the Sound near the Bay or the deserted part of South Diamondhead. I always thought some of the photos of Jaren looked like they were from the Diamondhead area. And then there's the beautiful one of her holding her daughter in the air with the pier in the background.

I agree the Bay St. Louis bridge is heavily traveled, and has a bike/walking lane on the east bound side (to Pass Christan) with high railings and is well lit. Not sure about posting pictures without blowing the margins. But a search of Bay St. Louis Bridge will pull up several pics taken at different times and from several angles.

Also, there is access from the Pass Christian side to a park located under the bridge with access to the bay. Maybe this was the location she was put into the water.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

A hair sample, or samples of MAS's DNA, possibly. They might not have gotten a cheek swab when she was picked up with TS. It's hard to imagine she would have kept clothes she was wearing that night, or anything used in the crime.

JMO

The above is most likely...

But... Perhaps...Would MAS be the type to keep a "trophy" of some kind?

:waitasec:

 

[Ms. Shagwell]

I agree the Bay St. Louis bridge is heavily traveled, and has a bike/walking lane on the east bound side (to Pass Christan) with high railings and is well lit. Not sure about posting pictures without blowing the margins. But a search of Bay St. Louis Bridge will pull up several pics taken at different times and from several angles.

Also, there is access from the Pass Christian side to a park located under the bridge with access to the bay. Maybe this was the location she was put into the water.

And remember this happened in June which means there may have even been more activity in areas near the coast and Casinos at any hour of the day or night. I think they went to a remote area that they were already familiar with, somewhere they had spent time before. Who would drive from Kenner to Bay St. Louis-with the victim's body- without already knowing a "safe" place to stop and dispose of it?

*Just read that there are cameras on the Bay bridge. Wonder if they were checked after the discovery on the beach?

 

[bessie]

Bessie, you hit on something earlier, that has always left me wondering, namely the taped off back yard. I've always wondered why it was taped off as it was. I can't imagine anything of significance happening outside for fear of being seen, but it certainly seems something gave LE reason to do so. Signs of a struggle? Weapon of some kind? Blood droplets? Any thoughts? I guess it could be anything but it has always stuck out to me for whatever reason.

MAS's house was on Connecticut Ave. To the west, the street which runs behind the house is Colorado Ave. There are no buildings in the 2000 block of Colorado Ave. The entire block is an open field with the street running down the center. LEO's were seen spread out, walking the field. In itself, that doesn't mean much because an area like that would be searched as a matter of routine. I can't find the video now which showed the HRD dogs in the field, but we saw them in the live feed. I have a feeling they hit on something back there. In any case, a section directly behind the house was eventually roped off.

The backyard is concealed from view on the sides by high wooden fencing. I tried to zoom in close enough to see if the fence runs along the back of the property, but the trees are in the way. Judging by the age and condition of the house, and the thickness of the trees, if there is a fence, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it's missing some boards. So, from what I can tell, the backyard provides a good deal of privacy. If one knew his/her neighbors worked during the day, or waited until nightfall, one could probably dismember a body in the backyard and no one would know. Likewise, if one wanted to remove something from the house but didn't want the neighbors to see, one could drive around the block and load the car from behind the house. JMO

ETA: Also wanted to mention the garage. More privacy. In the google view, you can see a hose lying the grass. The garage and/or the backyard could've been hosed down with bleach. Also, it rained practically every day during the period of June 5-12.

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KMSY/2012/6/5/MonthlyHistory.html

Here, a detective seems interested in a particular spot of grass. Behind him, on the other side of the trees, is the backyard.

I've attached additional images. 1. A Google satellite overhead view. MAS' house is in the center. 2. Facing front of 2029 Connecticut Ave. 3. View from the rear on Colorado Ave. 4. LE canvassing the open field. 5. Roped off section directly behind the house.

MAP


Photos from WWL-TV
22 second raw video from WDSU-TV
WDSU-TV video report of Kenner house search
https://twitter.com/JhollyW/status/213032273937838080