LA - Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette 19 May 2012 - #30

[kgeaux]

I personally don't smoke...asthma...but I know a lot of people that do. It's extremely common these days. Maybe it always has been. If she does smoke I would think she has her sources and wouldn't need to rely on asking a stranger.

In my experience with friends that are out of their smoke...they get a little ansy and talk about the fact that they don't have any. Surely she would have mentioned it to Brettly.

It's not my theory at all but a thread or so back someone did mention a guy at the Circle K stating that he saw her talking to a guy with long straight blonde hair. I am not clear if this was the same night but I think so.

Has anyone stated who called her when she was with Brettly? Again, not my theory but maybe this guy was her source.

Her BFF called her. Queenofcorona's SIL, Ashley.

 

[EBR]

I am not sure I believe that tourism will be affected...outside of LA, the case is getting almost no media attention; in fact, inside LA it is not garnering all that much attention.

I agree. And the way this family has worked their butts off to get the info out about their sister/daughter really only underlines the fact that LE has not been very vocal on keeping citizens focused on what we should be doing to help.

If I were the family I'd be all over LE, begging them to keep the case in the news. Maybe they are doing just that. Maybe they're not because they know a lot of stuff we don't know.

 

[dejavoodoo64]

:dunno: I always thought it was the same truck in both directions! guess not!!!
Unless LE only interviewed 2 drivers because there were never 3 trucks? :banghead::banghead::banghead:
Soo there isn't anyone else to come forward and NO reason to alert the public now...

nuthin else makes sense!

moo

Apology again if its been answered. Ya'll covered a lot of ground since last night, but its kept me from cutting grass.

I've always understood there are 3 trucks and 2 have been interviewed. The 2 do not include the one facing right that was going in Mickeys direction. That was the impression I got when I first started following and the VOI picture was released. Could be wrong, but thats how I understood it.

 

[jennapuppy]

Im no longer working on the case as per the families wishes. So any information should go to LPD or Abdella

If Abdella develops a lead that solves this case, will he claim the reward money?

 

[ktgirl]

Okay, I just have to jump in here for a sec and say my piece about a few things:
1) Mickey's pipe- I have some friends who smoke flavored tobacco. Since Artmosphere is also a hookah bar, they'd have flavored tobacco and that's why she had the pipe with her. Even if it was used to smoke pot, I doubt she'd be trying to score pot at 2am from some shady dealer. And I absolutely do not think she was using the pipe for smoking crack or meth (and btw, a crack pipe is different from a tobacco/pot pipe & from the description of her pipe, we know it wasn't a crack pipe). I find any insinuation that she was looking to score meth or crack as absolutely ridiculous and hurtful to her family. Also, I think we should stay away from suggesting she was going to pick up pot from someone on her way home at 2am. There's no solid evidence to me that Mickey even smoked pot (again, pipe could be used for flavored tobacco) & if she did, there's no evidence that has anything to do with her disappearance.
2) While I'm disappointed to see that the family has asked ACI not to work the case, I think this is due to them thinking that too many cooks in the kitchen makes it hard for anything to get done. (Now I don't think this is the case, I think everyone who can help should be, but I don't think they have nefarious reasons forasking him to stop) I don't think they don't want help or don't want Mickey found or don't want certains things stumbled upon all of a sudden. I just don't think that's the case. I think they desperately want Mickey found but want the info to go through LE and the PI that works with them (this way also, they can be informed of all the leads, info, etc the PI gets). But goodness, I do wish Abdella would get an email account for us to contact him on and send in tips! That would help! Not bashing him, email would make contacting him so much easier- particularly about stuff we see online or links we want to send him.
3) As far as her mom saying at first that she thinks Mickey was in an accident and the person freaked out and took her. I think this was wishful thinking that someone had not taken her for far more nefarious reasons. I think this was to give the perp an "out" - drop her off somewhere, we don't care about finding who hit her, we just want Mickey, etc. I think as time goes on, she knows the accident theory is statistically unlikely & that someone would have turned in anyone they suspected of an accident for the $25K. I think she always knew the accident was unlikely. Most people on WS seem to think and have from the beginning it was no accident -even if a collision was involved - and that this case reeks of an experienced sexual predator (now granted- I know a ton of people in Lafayette & surrounding areas who are still going with the drunk driver accident theory, but I think that it's safer for them to think that and that they're in denial about the possibility of a sexual predator being in the area - I also think that's why many young women in the area are still out late at night alone, etc. They think it was an accident or at least are telling themselves it was an accident so they won't be so scared). I think Mickey's family was told early on by LE and/or their PI that the situation reeked of an abduction. They just finally have come to accept it or have stopped giving the perp an out at this point.

So....can we please stop trying to insinuate that Mickey was trying to score drugs on her way home that night and that the family doesn't want help or has some inside info they don't want us to stumble upon?

 

[nutkin]

I am not sure I believe that tourism will be affected...outside of LA, the case is getting almost no media attention; in fact, inside LA it is not garnering all that much attention.

That, and really, is Lafayette that much of a tourist destination? People go to New Orleans and people go to the Lake Charles area because of the casinos. I've never heard of anyone going to Lafayette on vacation.

 

[Foxfire]

I am not sure I believe that tourism will be affected...outside of LA, the case is getting almost no media attention; in fact, inside LA it is not garnering all that much attention.

cluciano63, you would be surprised at the collateral damage caused by abduction cases/crime, especially in college towns. In the reign of Ted Bundy, many of the parents of FSU students refused to allow their children to return to school after the Xmas holidays.

In this Dateline TV investigation, 60% of the Super Bowl ticket holders called the LA tourism bureau and threatened to request a refund:

http://www.fear.org/980314.html

NBC's "Dateline" Wins Top Honors For Its Louisiana Forfeiture Expose

There were 17 million viewers that watched the above segment. I am sure that with the tremendous awareness & the national MSM coverage of the Mickey Schunick abduction; JVM/Nancy G., etc. The number of folks aware of the MS tragedy are much higher than you think, imo..

 

[cluciano63]

That, and really, is Lafayette that much of a tourist destination? People go to New Orleans and people go to the Lake Charles area because of the casinos. I've never heard of anyone going to Lafayette on vacation.

I know....but I also do not believe that Mickey's case will have much effect on college enrollment, etc...people will just tend to think that as long as they are not out at 2am alone, they should be safe. And to some extent they might be right-this would not have happened, IMO, at 2pm, or even 6pm...Mickey was in the position to become a victim, even while stating that of course she had every right to be riding her bike, etc...it is just more likely that a lone female at 2am without the protection of a vehicle around her, is vulnerable...JMO

 

[dejavoodoo64]

There's some very odd situations going on here. Charley came to town and Mickey and her went to a party Thursday night. Mickey called her late Friday saying she wanted to party with her that night. However Charley was in Baton Rouge. The two sisters didn't communicate between Thursday night & Friday that one of them was going out of town? When I visit my family my siblings know if I am going somewhere an hour away.
Charley said she was drinking or something so didn't come to town.... And in a conversation with BW when MS didn't show up she asked him if he thought she was at the bar drinking or something....What is "something?" Playing online? Drugs? Sex? Movies?

In the very early searches people were told to look for a pipe Mickey had. Maybe she wanted something Charley could get for her but since Charley wasn't coming to town she decided to go get it herself? Pot? Crack?

Oh geez I really hope not. The pot I got no problem with. The other is straying into very dangerous territory. Unfortunately the people I know that have, had a habit of staying up all hours and getting by on very little sleep.

And this may have been a very wrong post to make as I feel I'm suggesting something I shouldn't. But I am not directing this at Mickey, only that people I know do live that way.....somehow. Please flag or delete if so.

 

[ktgirl]

Again people, a pipe one would use to smoke tobacco/pot is very different from a crack pipe. Let's please move on away from the crack talk! And the drug talk in general! We have no proof Mickey used her pipe to smoke anything besides tobacco (again, Artmosphere has flavored tobacco) and there's no evidence drugs played any part in her disappearance. I think these insinuations - particulatly any alluding to crack - are hurtful to Mickey's family and unfounded. I also think they do very little to help bring Mickey home.

 

[nutkin]

I know....but I also do not believe that Mickey's case will have much effect on college enrollment, etc...people will just tend to think that as long as they are not out at 2am alone, they should be safe. And to some extent they might be right-this would not have happened, IMO, at 2pm, or even 6pm...Mickey was in the position to become a victim, even while stating that of course she had every right to be riding her bike, etc...it is just more likely that a lone female at 2am without the protection of a vehicle around her, is vulnerable...JMO

Exactly. This wasn't a home invasion, so people aren't going to necessarily feel unsafe in the area. Plus, so far, this is a single occurrence. If there were multiple abductions or abduction(s) happening during the day, it might be different.

Also, I really don't believe many people know about MS or any of the other missing/murdered people out there. Most people truly do live in a bubble.

 

[concentric]

I know....but I also do not believe that Mickey's case will have much effect on college enrollment, etc...people will just tend to think that as long as they are not out at 2am alone, they should be safe. And to some extent they might be right-this would not have happened, IMO, at 2pm, or even 6pm...Mickey was in the position to become a victim, even while stating that of course she had every right to be riding her bike, etc...it is just more likely that a lone female at 2am without the protection of a vehicle around her, is vulnerable...JMO

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It has been my experience that there are those people who on the surface appear to be "nice," but are selfish in the extreme, defending "their own" and will throw victims of crime under the bus to validate their feeling of superiority.

 

[nutkin]

Again people, a pipe one would use to smoke tobacco/pot is very different from a crack pipe. Let's please move on away from the crack talk! And the drug talk in general! We have no proof Mickey used her pipe to smoke anything besides tobacco (again, Artmosphere has flavored tobacco) and there's no evidence drugs played any part in her disappearance. I think these insinuations - particulatly any alluding to crack - are hurtful to Mickey's family and unfounded. I also think they do very little to help bring Mickey home.

Thank you! A crack pipe is generally just a glass tube. (Think those little tubes that they used to sell the tiny flowers in.) A marijuana pipe is generally very well made and can look like a regular tobacco pipe or can be very ornate. Generally they are glass and can be made in many different colors and shapes.

 

[MLE]

I am not sure I believe that tourism will be affected...outside of LA, the case is getting almost no media attention; in fact, inside LA it is not garnering all that much attention.

I don't think LA tourism will be affected at all. We've been indoctrinated into believing some nut halfway around the world will somehow get us, not some local guy who is out on parole.

 

[dejavoodoo64]

From
Accident to abduction ..... I don't get it either.

All I can think of is she meant "accident" as in the bike was struck by a vehicle in order to abduct Mickey. Or maybe it actually was an accident and then someone saw it as opportunity. JMO

 

[concentric]

I don't think LA tourism will be affected at all. We've been indoctrinated into believing some nut halfway around the world will somehow get us, not some local guy who is out on parole.

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Given the economy and how difficult it is for someone, especially on parole, to get a job:

Has anyone ever thought that some local guy who is out on parole could be paid by someone halfway around the world (many are very wealthy) to acquire these young women?

 

[nutkin]

I don't see how this could be an accident. Would a person drunk enough to hit a cyclist have their wits about them enough to pick up the person, their bike, and any pieces of the bike that were on the road AND do it quickly enough for no one to notice? I doubt it.

 

[nutkin]

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Given the economy and how difficult it is for someone, especially on parole, to get a job:

Has anyone ever thought that some local guy who is out on parole could be paid by someone halfway around the world (many are very wealthy) to acquire these young women?

But, it isn't difficult around here for a convict to get a job. They can always work for a contractor at a plant or shipyard or port or just generally building things.

I know very educated people who have been looking for a job for years.

I know people who were released from jail after committing a violent felony who had jobs within a week.

 

[EBR]

Again people, a pipe one would use to smoke tobacco/pot is very different from a crack pipe. Let's please move on away from the crack talk! And the drug talk in general! We have no proof Mickey used her pipe to smoke anything besides tobacco (again, Artmosphere has flavored tobacco) and there's no evidence drugs played any part in her disappearance.

Agreed on the crack/meth whatever stuff. totally different paraphanalia. And I she wasn't riding around at two in the morning trying to score some grass or anything. But given her company that night and some of her friends that I know it's not beyond the realm of possibility the pipe was to smoke reefer.

It was only given out that she had a pipe very early on as a thing for the public to be on the lookout for. I'm a toker. I'm making no judgments on smoking reefer.

 

[nutkin]

Agreed on the crack/meth whatever stuff. totally different paraphanalia. And I she wasn't riding around at two in the morning trying to score some grass or anything. But given her company that night and some of her friends that I know it's not beyond the realm of possibility the pipe was to smoke reefer.

It was only given out that she had a pipe very early on as a thing for the public to be on the lookout for. I'm a toker. I'm making no judgments on smoking reefer.

I don't smoke, but I agree. I make more judgments about the alcohol and people smoking cigarettes because it is much more harmful than marijuana.