LA LA - Shane Fell, 36, Marrero, 9 June 2011 - #1

[Sillybilly]

If Shane wasn't at the car when the 911 caller arrived, why the need to edit/cut anything the caller said from the 911 call? He wouldn't have had anything to contribute wrt whether Shane left the scene, etc.

 

[ktgirl]

From that article:

"Col. John Fortunato, a Sheriff's Office spokesman, said Fell is one of only two adults to remain missing from Jefferson Parish in the past few years."

I wonder who the other person is...

I guess maybe it depends what his definition of past "few" years is...but there are plenty of missing people in Jefferson Parish if you go to the LA Repository for Unidentified & Missing People and search Jefferson Parish...pages of them, in fact. http://identifyla.lsu.edu/search_mp.php?county=Jefferson Parish

As for people in Jefferson Parish who went missing around the time Shane did and in the years since, there's:
Nancy Hawk (2011) http://identifyla.lsu.edu/profile.php?id=637
Erik Richards (2012) http://identifyla.lsu.edu/profile.php?id=651
Cathy Tran (2012) http://identifyla.lsu.edu/profile.php?id=639
And about a year before Shane (2010), Brandon Mouton: http://identifyla.lsu.edu/profile.php?id=583

So, um, yeah...more than one other missing persons case there. I'm kind of scratching my head at why the officer would say that. Best I can tell all four of these people I've listed above who went missing in the years around Shane's disappearance have not been found. Three of these four people went missing from the Westbank of Jefferson Parish like Shane.

 

[Sillybilly]

Kenny, in the 911 recording that you folks did have access to, was there any reference the caller made specifically to Shane NOT being at the scene when the caller was there?

 

[mpnola]

I feel like the key to this case is the cell phone pings. That is a huuuuuge important piece of information that it pinged for 5 days!!!!! before going off. Kenny, I am not sure if y'all went to the phone provider to get information, but that needs to be found out! Knowing if he was moving or still with that phone is huge. Also, if it was going straight to voicemail when Brett began calling, that is strange. Once your phone is powered off, it will not continue to ping. That is the key. The pings. I would go back to the police, back to the phone provider, whatever! and demand that after this amount of time, you need the information!

 

[Satch]

This may have been their reasoning(?) at first:

from:
http://helpfindshanefell.com/v2/?cat=4





"Walked away"? Nobody saw him walk away. He was still there when he called his brother. He was still there when the young couple stopped to offer help.

I agree,

Also sorry if this has already been mentioned, but does anyone know the name of the couple who stopped to help Shane? I wonder where they were going and EXACTLY the conversion that Shane had with the couple? How did Shane look to the couple? Did Brett or anyone else in the family talk to the couple, contact them in any way? Who say these two people? They could be important witnesses to Shane's health and potential whereabouts after the accident.

Or, did the couple get out of the car, or just drive by, saw the wreck, Shane said, "My brother's coming for help" and they went on their way and that was that?

From what I understand, NOBODY saw Shane walk away from the scene of the accident. Which doesn't mean he didn't, but it means nobody saw him. I have a gut feeling that whatever happened to Shane or where he went occurred within at most a twenty minute time frame. The car was totaled. I think Shane either took off on foot or got a ride with someone.

I think he either passed away in the river, or while being driven to a hospital, or very likely is a victim of amnesia, alive today, and doesn't know who he is or where he is. If we had a better medical understanding of Shane's injuries from the accident it would help in the case.

Satch

 

[Satch]

This may have been their reasoning(?) at first:

from:
http://helpfindshanefell.com/v2/?cat=4





"Walked away"? Nobody saw him walk away. He was still there when he called his brother. He was still there when the young couple stopped to offer help.

Viewed Shane as a suspect? Why? Of what was he suspected? Being DUI and causing the car accident? Kind of a cruel, cold, and insensitive thing for LE to say when a family member is missing! Some of the statements by LE seem puzzling and sadly apathetic. Like they are blaming Shane for something or possibly hiding something from the family.

I think the Fell family deserves better treatment!

Satch

 

[Philigumbo]

By federal law every ER is required to stabilize any patient regardless of whether or not they have insurance. Then if they have no insurance they can be transferred to an indigent hospital. I can't remember which hospitals are on the West Bank, but I believe after a patient is stabilized, & since Katrina, all indigent patients go to LSU, the old Hotel Dieu hospital.

The patient cannot be transferred for lack of insurance unless the patient prefers that. Transfers only happen IF the patient needs a higher level of care than that hospital can provide...such as a particular procedure, unit (such as trauma), surgery, or specialist not available at the present hospital. There must also be a physician agreeing to assume care of the patient at the receiving hospital. Otherwise, it's called patient "dumping" and it's illegal.

 

[Sillybilly]

Viewed Shane as a suspect? Why? Of what was he suspected? Being DUI and causing the car accident? Kind of a cruel, cold, and insensitive thing for LE to say when a family member is missing! Some of the statements by LE seem puzzling and sadly apathetic. Like they are blaming Shane for something or possibly hiding something from the family.

I think the Fell family deserves better treatment!

Satch

And especially when their own accident report says "Type: Accident Injury" and "UNK EXTENT OF INJ'S"

Better treatment is right !!

 

[Sillybilly]

Once your phone is powered off, it will not continue to ping.

<rsbm>

I believe that with the newer technology, it can still be pinged when powered off. Even when it is off, there are short bursts of data that transmit to the nearest tower. If the battery is good and in the phone it can be pinged. If the battery goes dead or is removed from the phone, the phone can no longer be pinged.

ETA: Here's some old discussion on it from the Kyron Horman thread:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-107289.html

 

[Sillybilly]

Kenny, when you said LE didn't pick up the shoe until the Tuesday of the next week, do you mean the Tuesday immediately following the crash (i.e. June 15) or the week following that (June 23)?

Thank you for your patience while we bombard you with questions.

 

[newone]

was Shane's cellphone that was pinging a personal cell phone or work phone? He was employed by a cell provider -- if I recall correctly. I am hopeful that LE and/or provider will give up the information ---lease:

 

[KENNY FELL]

Hey Sillybilly
I will go back tonight a listen to the audio ...but i do think the 911 operator ask if anybody was in the car.....

 

[KENNY FELL]

June 15th and we had to keep calling and telling them we had it.......

 

[KENNY FELL]

it was prepaid PHONE from WALMART.......

 

[Geaux Tigers!]

Just thinking ... Kenny said the shoe was found "in the water right were the wreck was", would this point to some kind of incident right there while he was waiting that made him lose the shoe? Someone attacking him, taking him? It sounds very improbable because the time frame is so tight, but I'm puzzled why he wouldn't put his shoe back on while he stood there waiting or when he decided to walk away (for whatever reason) if it had come off during the accident or him scrambling out of the car. Could be he was too confused and shaken up to think of that?

You know, your post just made something click in my brain. Shoes often get knocked off people's feet upon impact in a car accident. As a teenager, I rear-ended a car LOAD of people, and all of their shoes were knocked off. The shoe may be simply a victim of the accident and not a clue.

Either way, I still think there's a bigger story to where Shane is. I do not believe he walked away from his life, and like I have said, once I saw the pictures, I don't believe he went into the water.

I said special prayers for him and everyone who loves him last night. I know it had to have been a very dark day for them all. I am so hoping they get to bring him home soon. Kenny, from my family to yours, God bless you all. Keep the faith.

 

[Redux]

Sorry for an off-topic post, but does anyone remember the name of a gentleman that went missing under similar circumstances (car crash, LE shows up soon after and he's already gone) a few years ago that was found within about the past year? If I recall correctly, he was found like 2 or 3 miles from where he had crashed his car.

 

[Elainera]

Don't recall the man, redux, but Teleka Patrick immediately comes to mind.

 

[neesaki]

Please understand that some police Departments don't allow outside teams to Search......We was contacted by them and they told us the was coming in town and would like to help....They came in on a Saturday afternoon we showed them what we searched...then my wife drove them around for hours in my car.They told us they was picking up help at the airport and would have boats annd drones on sunday....They helps us search on sunday and that was the last time we seen them.....We had a news media person ask were was Texas Equusearch and we told them we didn't know....

Has anyone here ever heard of LE not allowing Texas Equusearch to do searches for missing persons ? I really want to know, as I personally haven't heard of a case in which that has happened. I checked TE's homepage, and they do have Shane as missing and a little information. But unlike the other missing where they conducted a search, they give details on the search as well. But for Shane there is nothing mentioned, zero, zilch, nada, about them doing a search. As far as their Facebook page, I went through and found that time period and there's nothing there about Shane at all. So it does appear that local LE more or less ran them off.... IMO, I would say more. Why ? Were they afraid of what they might find ? :tsktsk:

http://texasequusearch.org/category/missing/active/page/7/

 

[Redux]

Dpn't recall the man, redux, but Teleka Patrick immediately comes to mind.

Thanks Elainera. It's probably been a year, maybe more, since this guy was found....I just remember reading the thread here when he went missing (and when he was found) and thinking at the time how much it reminded me of Shane's circumstances.

It's no biggie - am just hoping someone here has better memory than I do and remembers his name. I've tried googling it, but there are just so many people missing these days.

 

[Elainera]

Has anyone here ever heard of LE not allowing Texas Equusearch to do searches for missing persons ? I really want to know, as I personally haven't heard of a case in which that has happened. I checked TE's homepage, and they do have Shane as missing and a little information. But unlike the other missing where they conducted a search, they give details on the search as well. But for Shane there is nothing mentioned, zero, zilch, nada, about them doing a search. As far as their Facebook page, I went through and found that time period and there's nothing there about Shane at all. So it does appear that local LE more or less ran them off.... IMO, I would say more. Why ? Were they afraid of what they might find ? :tsktsk:

http://texasequusearch.org/category/missing/active/page/7/

I think Texas Equusearch were 'not invited' by LE to search for Leanne Bearden, TX, although they had offered to come and the family wanted them to search.