Latest from George Anthony 1-2-09 at 11:58 PM

[shannahg]

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Even now, it's interesting how they are not pleading for information about the killer, asking him to turn himself in, people to provide tips, demanding justice etc. They are not fooling me.

You are so right! Isn't it amazing that NO ONE is hunting for the "real killer." That's because she is already sitting in the jail cell, IMO. I mean, they aren't even putting forth a 'token effort' - even OJ did that much! Wouldn't a jury find that strange? Gosh, even appearances can't be all that important to these people...not one of them felt the need to mention that a murderer is running loose among the poor unsuspecting locals of Florida whose children could possibly be next. That's because the real murderer is in jail eating beef jerky and peanut butter cups - she can't harm anyone's children now, can she? :behindbar

 

[Jolynna]

Oh I so wanna know what happened during those 31 days,I bet there's a lot we don't know!
And you're not the only one.I don't necessarily think that CA calling 911 is a sign of her innocence.They HAD to report her missing at some point or else people would have started asking questions.

In response to what I bolded. No, they didn't. Nobody would have asked questions.

George and Cindy could have said Casey had gone off with some guy and the new family was bonding.

Cindy's family would have thought Casey was being her usual selfish self. They would have gone tsk, tsk, our poor martyred Cindy...well at least she has less mouths to feed. How cruel of Casey to keep Caylee from Cindy after all Cindy did...poor Cindy.

The few of Casey's friends that even asked about Caylee believed the nanny story. I doubt they gave Casey or Caylee much thought what-so-ever. They just thought...oh well.

Really, who but George, Cindy and Lee would EVER know Caylee was gone if Cindy hadn't called 911?

IMO

 

[RR0004]

Thank you, JWG this has bothered me for a while, what took Cindy so long to call Casey. Why 2 1/2 hours after the pick-up, why not call her when they got the notice,what is that about.I have had this case on my mind 24/7 and this is some thing that has really bothered me. I could have sworn that I saw some place/somewhere that Cindy went back to work after the pick-up. I know, I know Cindy told George to go to work second day on the job and all, But there has to be a reason why Cindy would take so long to get in touch with Casey about the car at the tow yard, let alone the smell that George told her about. This part is just not right.

Yes, I believe she did go back to work. She may have called earlier from the office or the house, we just don't know. Were there any other (earleir) incoming calls on Casey's phone? I have a headache otherwise I'd bite the bullet and go look through them.

 

[RR0004]

I just read on another thread that the car was picked up around 4, if that's the case, Cindy started trying to reach Casey almost immediately.

I'd never heard that...can you direct me, please?

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

The sympathy for George just astounds me and makes me angry - he isnt a victim he is a volunteer.

He refused to pick up the mantle of responsibility as " head of the household " - he gladly plays the jester and allows wingnut # 1 to
run tryannically over himself and the kids. He sits deaf blind and
passive while wingnut runs the house with power plays, threats and
abuse . He solicits sympathy outside the family unit
to further absolve himself from shirking all responsibility.

He tried real hard to convince LE he was one of the team - they knew
better .

I see George as the most selfish of all of them. His comfort won out
over protecting his children .

KC courted him because he was the most likely to do nothing about
any of it . He would just swallow the BS like he has been doing
all her life . Even now he is stocking her commissary account

Georges " truth telling " was done to save his own hide . He threw
KC under the bus before she had a chance to make the first strike
There is nothing noble about his actions at all.


JMO

I'm in full agreement. As I stated earlier, I also believe Cindy was on to it all and George helped to put her in complete denial to protect his precious princess.

 

[LCoastMom]

Funny how I can listen to the same calls and not hear what you hear at all. I hear her adding Caylee being missing as an afterthought...then working herself into that state from there. She called in a rage over the car and money...not a thing to do with Caylee, imo.

SS I respect your opinions very much and have found you to be a very caring person. I'm curious if you have ever dealt with a KC in your own life? Ever known someone you had to weigh and balance every word before you spoke? Someone you try very hard to stay emotionally neutral with so you don't say the wrong thing, ever? No matter how angry, sad, frustrated you are, you can't let it show or it will be used against you. It's exhausting.

I think CA had been trying very hard for several days to get through to KC, she knew the things that had worked in the past wasn't working. Now she was out of her element and felt off balance, she was making it up as she went along, trying not to further alienate KC and still trying to get what she wanted out of her. Which was to bring Caylee home. I don't think CA ever planned on calling LE that night. CA felt, KC calling her bluff was a new ploy. CA now knew KC was kicking their normal exchange up a notch. And CA had no idea where it was going to end.

The only anger CA had over the call about the car and the money was that KC was forcing her hand. The money situation was an old, worn out argument. The situation with the car being towed, was a new level of lies from KC that they hadn't even had a chance to unravel. CA didn't want to bring LE into their personal mess, but with Caylee missing from her house for over a month and KC not cooperating she didn't know what else to do. The panic we hear in CA during the 3rd phone call is her brain kicking into overdrive putting the pieces together for her. Something she has not allowed to happen since.

 

[RR0004]

Once again, Chilly Willy says it much better than I could. Sometimes the total vitriol, and wild speculations against the Anthony family is unbelievable. Lee is the father of Caylee, George is guilty of sexual abuse, the bag wasn't the same as it was when the meter reader first saw it, it was moved, Casey was a call girl...imaginations run wild here.

I truly wouldn't want it any other way. I've learned through wild speculation as well as analyzing all the facts. Many times it's also served as comic relief. IMO, it makes this site what it is.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

In response to what I bolded. No, they didn't. Nobody would have asked questions.

George and Cindy could have said Casey had gone off with some guy and the new family was bonding.

Cindy's family would have thought Casey was being her usual selfish self. They would have gone tsk, tsk, our poor martyred Cindy...well at least she has less mouths to feed. How cruel of Casey to keep Caylee from Cindy after all Cindy did...poor Cindy.

The few of Casey's friends that even asked about Caylee believed the nanny story. I doubt they gave Casey or Caylee much thought what-so-ever. They just thought...oh well.

Really, who but George, Cindy and Lee would EVER know Caylee was gone if Cindy hadn't called 911?

IMO

I think they may have been scared the guy from the tow yard was going to call police because he also smelt the smell.

 

[RR0004]

Speaking of a funeral...what are they waiting for??? The remains have been in the mortuary for over a week. Whats the hold up on this autopsy??? I think thats terrible that the defense doesn't get a move on it and lay this baby to rest. Just what type of autopsy can they do anyway???

All those fancy, pantsy, bigshot experts are on vacation!!

 

[RR0004]

SS I respect your opinions very much and have found you to be a very caring person. I'm curious if you have ever dealt with a KC in your own life? Ever known someone you had to weigh and balance every word before you spoke? Someone you try very hard to stay emotionally neutral with so you don't say the wrong thing, ever? No matter how angry, sad, frustrated you are, you can't let it show or it will be used against you. It's exhausting.

I think CA had been trying very hard for several days to get through to KC, she knew the things that had worked in the past wasn't working. Now she was out of her element and felt off balance, she was making it up as she went along, trying not to further alienate KC and still trying to get what she wanted out of her. Which was to bring Caylee home. I don't think CA ever planned on calling LE that night. CA felt, KC calling her bluff was a new ploy. CA now knew KC was kicking their normal exchange up a notch. And CA had no idea where it was going to end.

The only anger CA had over the call about the car and the money was that KC was forcing her hand. The money situation was an old, worn out argument. The situation with the car being towed, was a new level of lies from KC that they hadn't even had a chance to unravel. CA didn't want to bring LE into their personal mess, but with Caylee missing from her house for over a month and KC not cooperating she didn't know what else to do. The panic we hear in CA during the 3rd phone call is her brain kicking into overdrive putting the pieces together for her. Something she has not allowed to happen since.

I think there was much more to that fight before she left. IMO, CA doesn't pull any punches. I believe she was just as abusive as Casey was. JMHO

 

[Carrington]

I think they may have been scared the guy from the tow yard was going to call police because he also smelt the smell.

I can't believe he didn't call the police!
He should have called the minute G and C pulled out of the lot.
IMO

 

[gogrannypop]

SS I respect your opinions very much and have found you to be a very caring person. I'm curious if you have ever dealt with a KC in your own life? Ever known someone you had to weigh and balance every word before you spoke? Someone you try very hard to stay emotionally neutral with so you don't say the wrong thing, ever? No matter how angry, sad, frustrated you are, you can't let it show or it will be used against you. It's exhausting.

I think CA had been trying very hard for several days to get through to KC, she knew the things that had worked in the past wasn't working. Now she was out of her element and felt off balance, she was making it up as she went along, trying not to further alienate KC and still trying to get what she wanted out of her. Which was to bring Caylee home. I don't think CA ever planned on calling LE that night. CA felt, KC calling her bluff was a new ploy. CA now knew KC was kicking their normal exchange up a notch. And CA had no idea where it was going to end.

The only anger CA had over the call about the car and the money was that KC was forcing her hand. The money situation was an old, worn out argument. The situation with the car being towed, was a new level of lies from KC that they hadn't even had a chance to unravel. CA didn't want to bring LE into their personal mess, but with Caylee missing from her house for over a month and KC not cooperating she didn't know what else to do. The panic we hear in CA during the 3rd phone call is her brain kicking into overdrive putting the pieces together for her. Something she has not allowed to happen since.

Thank you for this. Forgive me for my intrusion, but I have finally discovered the main reason for becoming so obsessed with this site and this case. I grew up with a sister, 5 years older, who was a paranoid schizophrenic. Thank you. i have learned so much. I appreciate everyone's hard work and insight. There are so many knowledable people here and maybe now I can begin to understand my family dynamic. Again, thank you. And Hello!

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

Obviously, I don't agree with you.

Just because we don't approve of their family dysfunction or that maybe Cindy is dominant in the family, it doesn't mean that George is a terrible person. We might not like your family's dynamics and you might not like ours but it doesn't mean that we're all terrible people.

I can speak for my own opinion here and I've a pretty good bet SharPar will agree with me as it seems she and I are on the same track. I have not formulated my opinion because Cindy is dominant in the relationships, I formulated my opinion by the actual video's of the parents in the jailhouse interviews. George's coddling of Casey was beyond "normal". His "finger game" analogy was pathetic. Where, as a father, was his responsibility to talk to Casey like an adult? He sat back the entire time and had nothing to add to whatever Cindy was asking. No clarification of responses. No nothing. When he opened his mouth...it was only mushy coddling. Don't think that I don't believe he is not grieving in the worst way....I believe he is and for that my heart goes out to both he and Cindy, however, I also believe that he helped keep Cindy in denial by poo-poohing any and all things she may have said regarding what really happened to Caylee. It's just too obvious that Cindy phones 911 and states everything she believed and the moment George comes home all changed. I believe he talked Cindy out of her own feelings. Dominant or not, that woman has been through pure hell and it started long before Caylee went missing and I believe she had zero support from George. So naturally for the first time if he is stepping up to her and "guiding her" to what he think happened (even though he knew better)...I believe that helped Cindy to be in further denial.

 

[LCoastMom]

I just read on another thread that the car was picked up around 4, if that's the case, Cindy started trying to reach Casey almost immediately.

Chilly this is what I thought also, what started out as a quick pick up of the car, turned into a minor odyssey, going and getting cash to pay the storage yard, CA going with GA to plead their case for a discount and causing a minor ruckus, GA finding the car had no gas and really not being in any shape to drive due to the odor.

This was GA's first day at a new job. CA sent him off as soon as they got home. I would assume he either showered or got heavily doused in Frebreeze to not set off an incident of his own by showing up reeking of decomp.

I thought CA went right to it when they got home, looking for anything in the car that would point her towards KC and finding the scrap of paper with Amy's phone number. After leaving SOS type messages for KC that were not returned, CA called Amy, picked her up at the mall and went straight to TonE's from there. It sounded like this was a couple trips across town because CA and Amy exchanged quite a lot of information before arriving at Saw Grass. The rest as they say, is history.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching
Funny how I can listen to the same calls and not hear what you hear at all. I hear her adding Caylee being missing as an afterthought...then working herself into that state from there. She called in a rage over the car and money...not a thing to do with Caylee, imo.This is exactly what I think as well, SS!

The original call was because the car was found and the money stolen. Cindy called 911. She was fed up. Remember...at that first phone call she did NOT know that Caylee "was missing". She assumed she was still with Casey. Then Cindy went and searched and in the car she found a resume that belonged to Amy. Cindy then phoned Amy (as she had never known or met her before) and then proceeded to go and meet Amy to take her to Casey. It was not until AFTER she got to Tony's and got Casey and then found out about Caylee missing/kidnapped (per Casey) that she called the second time when she dragged Casey home and told 911 about Caylee missing.

 

[evergreen]

I can speak for my own opinion here and I've a pretty good bet SharPar will agree with me as it seems she and I are on the same track. I have not formulated my opinion because Cindy is dominant in the relationships, I formulated my opinion by the actual video's of the parents in the jailhouse interviews. George's coddling of Casey was beyond "normal". His "finger game" analogy was pathetic. Where, as a father, was his responsibility to talk to Casey like an adult? He sat back the entire time and had nothing to add to whatever Cindy was asking. No clarification of responses. No nothing. When he opened his mouth...it was only mushy coddling. Don't think that I don't believe he is not grieving in the worst way....I believe he is and for that my heart goes out to both he and Cindy, however, I also believe that he helped keep Cindy in denial by poo-poohing any and all things she may have said regarding what really happened to Caylee. It's just too obvious that Cindy phones 911 and states everything she believed and the moment George comes home all changed. I believe he talked Cindy out of her own feelings. Dominant or not, that woman has been through pure hell and it started long before Caylee went missing and I believe she had zero support from George. So naturally for the first time if he is stepping up to her and "guiding her" to what he think happened (even though he knew better)...I believe that helped Cindy to be in further denial.

I don't believe GA Ever talked CA out of anything. I don't think he made a move without clearing it with CA. I don't think CA has been through hell because of being married to George, I think it's the opposite. I think GA shows signs of stress from an emotionally abused husband who didn't know how to get out of the wreck of a relationship he was in. There is no "first time" for GA to suddenly step up and "guide" CA. GA suddenly taking charge and controlling things? No chance. Whenever business needed to be done or negotiating, like when they picked up KC's car, it was CA who did the dirty work, and who paid for the car so they could drive it away. Both enabled their "princess", and were far too lenient and forgiving of her transgressions. Whenever GA wanted to discipline, CA said no George, I will take care of it.

 

[RR0004]

I just read on another thread that the car was picked up around 4, if that's the case, Cindy started trying to reach Casey almost immediately.

Nope. I just read the tow operator's interview with LE...car retrieved at 13:55. Curious though, the towyard guy mentions George having a beat up old metal gas can with him. So how many gas cans did this guy own?

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

LOL, Yes Trac, I was 'absolutely' (ugh, I am beginning to HATE that word) being sarcastic! If they did plead for Caylee's safe return, I am not sure I got to hear that news segment either.

For the record, I don't think George or Cindy are horrible people. I certainly don't agree that much of what they've done throughout this case has been about Caylee but I am sure that they loved her, that fact is evident in the videos made when she was alive. However, I am definitely still on the fence about their participation in helping Casey. I would like to believe that they haven't obstructed justice in any way but I am simply not sure at this point.

Of course they were pleading for Caylee's safe return. They had all the vigils, the t-shirts, etc. what do you think that was for? I truly believe they were in deep denial. I also believe George knew in his gut that Casey got rid of Caylee's body...maybe even Cindy, too. However, I do believe they were in denial and certainly they made many plea's when they stated the LE was not doing enough to LOOK for Caylee. What did people expect? For them to look in the camera and say "Zanny, bring our Caylee home?" ? Did that need to be said? It certainly showed, imo, that they loved that child and did all they could with what power they had to find her. For that I give them credit. I just feel awful they were in such denial. Remember too...no matter what I think of George and his "precious princess Casey" coddling and Cindy and her dominating demeanor....they are both victims.

 

[trac]

Yes just the way OJ and the Petersons are looking for the REAL killers

You are so right! Isn't it amazing that NO ONE is hunting for the "real killer." That's because she is already sitting in the jail cell, IMO. I mean, they aren't even putting forth a 'token effort' - even OJ did that much! Wouldn't a jury find that strange? Gosh, even appearances can't be all that important to these people...not one of them felt the need to mention that a murderer is running loose among the poor unsuspecting locals of Florida whose children could possibly be next. That's because the real murderer is in jail eating beef jerky and peanut butter cups - she can't harm anyone's children now, can she? :behindbar

 

[trac]

Yes - the A's needed to look into the camera and say 'bring Caylee home!' - Casey needed to do that, Baez needed to do that - the ONLY person who actually said into the camera 'drop Caylee off somewhere public' was LP

I think that the A's loved little Caylee also, I think they were in denial for a little while also - just having vigils for 20 or so people, meet and greets like celebrities with KFN and speaking to the press that they knew who had Caylee and they were watching them IS NOT pleading for her return. They did not plead for the babies return because they knew that Casey had done something to that child

Of course they were pleading for Caylee's safe return. They had all the vigils, the t-shirts, etc. what do you think that was for? I truly believe they were in deep denial. I also believe George knew in his gut that Casey got rid of Caylee's body...maybe even Cindy, too. However, I do believe they were in denial and certainly they made many plea's when they stated the LE was not doing enough to LOOK for Caylee. What did people expect? For them to look in the camera and say "Zanny, bring our Caylee home?" ? Did that need to be said? It certainly showed, imo, that they loved that child and did all they could with what power they had to find her. For that I give them credit. I just feel awful they were in such denial. Remember too...no matter what I think of George and his "precious princess Casey" coddling and Cindy and her dominating demeanor....they are both victims.