Kamille
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MS:
Main contact with MWJ from the get go.
Helped with procurement of the gun.
Was in on the planning / preparation of both incinerators.
Test it with 'something with bones in it' - he knows what it's for.
"Laura thing" text -> no explanation needed.
Was at Maple Gate at alleged time of murder.
"Don't be out front" text implies he's in on the plan.
Destroyed mattress evidence murder happened at Maple Gate.
Renames iPad next morning, no questions asked.
I won't get into the after the murder events - reams and reams of incriminating evidence, not least of which includes the garage admission of murder.
M1, beyond a reasonable doubt, no question..
Good list. I'm sure others can add to it.
Yes, MS was the main contact with MWJ as he claimed to be a friend of MS' sister. We know of at least one time he was there at the Smich home when MS was not. So MS did in fact help with the procurement of the gun, several actually. DM took a picture of two of them in Feb. So why is this one gun purchase being showcased for this trial when there supposedly was no ammunition but there were two other guns already purchased months earlier? There is no evidence that a gun was used in this murder so how does procuring it tie MS into LB's murder?
MS was in on the planning/preparation of both incinerators. So was SS. SS also knew that the Eliminator was to be used for "something with bones in it". SS was at the hangar when DM showed up the next day, possibly with the "rolled spliff" in a vehicle, and likely took that weird pic of DM on the bucket. SS is not on trial here.
Was there a text between them that said "the Laura situation"? I've heard different things regarding that.
MS was apparently at Maplegate at the time of the murder but so was MM. No one even asked her if she was there or if she remembers MS going upstairs and hanging with DM for any length of time while she was told to stay downstairs. Seems to be an assumption because of her testimony about the night of the incinerator burning. There appears to be no text communication between DM and MS from the time DM claims to be going out on a mission around 7:30pm until after midnight when MS asks him where he is. There is no text from DM to MS to indicate that he's home from the mission so how do we know that MS is even aware he's back at the house? MS even eventually asks him where he is at 12:42am. DM then makes an excuse as to why he has been out of touch by saying he hit the vapes and tripped out for a bit.
Don't be out front can go a couple of ways. If DM was planning on murdering a girl he was bringing home, he sure wouldn't want MM to see that girl, even if he was willing to tell MS about it after the fact and enlist his help with the disposal.
Unfortunately there's no evidence that MS was involved in the disposal of an old mattress or the purchase of a new one. No texts that even suggest that DM needs help moving it. And a king sized mattress would be no easy thing to move alone. Who did move it and dispose of it and what vehicle was used for that? Doesn't seem like any evidence regarding the old mattress was discovered other than it was not picked up by the delivery person.
The evidence does not suggest that the IPad was necessarily renamed the next morning. It was connected to DM's computer however. The evidence seems to suggest that MS was asleep at that time.
After the fact evidence....definitely.
And while I don't consider those of us questioning the evidence against MS to be in some kind of "not guilty crowd", I think the majority of us believe he is likely guilty based on what we know of this pair (which is considerably more than the jury in this case has to go on) but we're nervous about the fact that the evidence presented may not convince this jury that he is.
MOO