Lee Has An Attorney! REVISIT OLD THREAD

[Thinaire]

I doubt it, but I wouldn't mind seeing it.

Incest enthusiasts: If you go to Anthony Psychological Profile, Part 3, I think you'll find all the info you need.

Thanks!

Brini I appreciate your insights!

I think we need to remember....that KC always ends her dramas with a stab at her mother.

I am not guessing who is or is not Caylee's father...nor will...

I'd just like to point out that whenever KC stated this accusation, it ended up as another stab at Cindy. Lee tried to touch me, George abused ME, CINDY did nothing to protect HER, KC. The delicate damsel in distress...

KC tells her friends that Hispanics are not welcome in home because of CINDY...KC poor daughter of a bigot...

KC manipulates people...she tells her parents that JG is "dangerous", stay away from him...obviously because KC wants to keep info flow from Grund's to parents nil...

KC is the star of her own dramas....

KC is the evil here....look how many people she has hurt.

 

[frenchvixen]

In a normal case...NEVER. This is far from normal considering the media.

Lee can be seen in Jail visits trying his hardest to get info from KC.

I hate to see this man vilified for trying to find his niece.

I just can't shake the video of Lee asking questions to KC and her laughing. He was not joking or laughing along with her. She was laughing b/c he was sitting there trying to help her and she was scheming on how she's going to pin the crime on him. I remember someone posting that Lee wasn't aware that Casey was laughing at him.

I never once believed that he was the father of the Caylee and I posted on topix (before I was a WSer) that it was perverted for anyone to think otherwise. There is no indication of this.. just perverted folks taking it to the very left field as possible.

 

[bessie]

Dominant women do initiate incestual contact. Especially mothers against sons. I would imagine a sociopathic would. They want what they want when they want it and they use sex as a tool.

Personally, IDK if Casey's claim about abuse is true. She lies alot.

True, but father/daughter and brother/sister incest (sexual abuse) is less common in matriarchal families.

ETA: For the record, I don't believe she was sexually abused. Don't you find it interesting that none of her female friends mentioned tales of abuse? IMO, telling her bf's that she was abused was a foolish ploy by a foolish young woman to gain sympathy. Nothing more.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

True, but father/daughter and brother/sister incest (sexual abuse) is less common in matriarchal families.

That is not a proven fact. I know it has been quoted many times on this board, but it just is not accurate. I posted a link earlier to show that was not accurate at all.

Many times in a matriarchal family, the father is the perp because of his powerlessness in the family structure. It is a crime of power, not sex many times.

 

[Thinaire]

Casey seemed to say to each person in her life what they wanted, needed, and expected to hear. I have no doubt in my mind that she gave everyone in her life different "takes" and "snapshots". She is an empty sociopath and she had to fill herself with something. Too bad all she has now are all those fake snapshots and nothing real to hold onto. Pretty sad that as she sits in jail... out of all of her friends before this happened... all she has is a pathetic defense atty.

Hey nurse, she has Hysterical Boy with Big White Sunglasses, don't forget him!

 

[miabellamoure]

Well...if LE is truly building a case against the Anthonys for attempting to impeding the investigation, then it would seem reasonable that LA would also retain a Lawyer.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

i dont think incest is a factor here .. lee is expecting a child with his gf he is probably afraid since kc has lied about so many other things she will throw him under the bus now too ... anything to save her own butt.. he has a child on the way and probably wants to do everything he can to protect his child and gf from any backlash that will come of this .the media puts alot of spin on things and so does the public . if i were him id have a lawyer too ..

I know one thing I would do if I were Lee and had a baby on the way. As soon as LE would release me, I would get the h*ll out of that part of the country. I would put as many miles between me and his parents as I could go.

I would not want them destroying my child.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Geeez, some families order flower arrangements, when deaths occur.

Some families finish lawyering up.

What a world.

ROFLMAO!!!

 

[bessie]

I just can't shake the video of Lee asking questions to KC and her laughing. He was not joking or laughing along with her. I wonder if she was thinking about how she's going to f uck him later on during trial. She was laughing b/c he was sitting there trying to help her and she was scheming on how she's going to pin the crime on him. I remember someone posting that Lee wasn't aware that Casey was laughing at him.

I never once believed that he was the father of the Caylee and I posted on topix (before I was a WSer) that it was perverted for anyone to think otherwise. There is no indication of this.. just perverted folks taking it to the very left field as possible.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[TURBOTHINK]

When did the Ortiz' and Erics family provide DNA? All I read was that the Ortiz' insisted that they or the some did not know KC? When did the family of Eric Eric (if there IS an Eric) give DNA? Please post links. Thanks!

And, when did the As sue ANYONE? They've THREATENED to sue a lot of folks.

And, why are KC and LA not charged with incest? It's illegal.

Turbo, you post some great stuff. But, this seems to be a bit of an obsession.

It is not an obsession for me, but appears to be for you because you keep justifying and rationalizing their behaviors to make them fit a profile which does not exist. It does not exist because this profile is one of generational evil. . I guess we will have to wait and see how it turns out in the end.

I don't dismiss anything with this family . They are not dysfunctional, but evil and there is a big difference. Sex is usually a large part of the family structure when you see this type of generational evil.

 

[RR0004]

But what reason is there to assume it? I see more reason to assume that Casey lied to Jesse than I see to assume that Lee fathered his own niece. LP's accusation basically is the same as pointing to any stranger on the street and accusing him of having sex with his sister. It's based totally on fantasy.

Oh, I was referring to Casey's statement, not LP's. Interpreting what she said, it wouldn't be a huge jump for someone...anyone...to assume there was something more. I don't think it's true, but some people may not see it as farfetched. BTW, I see all the As in that precious face. To be honest, at this point, I don't care who the father is, I just wish Caylee's life didn't have to end this way.

 

[bessie]

That is not a proven fact. I know it has been quoted many times on this board, but it just is not accurate. I posted a link earlier to show that was not accurate at all.

Many times in a matriarchal family, the father is the perp because of his powerlessness in the family structure. It is a crime of power, not sex many times.

The truth is that incest occurs in all family types. In this case, however, I'm not buying it.

 

[RR0004]

Brini I appreciate your insights!

I think we need to remember....that KC always ends her dramas with a stab at her mother.

I am not guessing who is or is not Caylee's father...nor will...

I'd just like to point out that whenever KC stated this accusation, it ended up as another stab at Cindy. Lee tried to touch me, George abused ME, CINDY did nothing to protect HER, KC. The delicate damsel in distress...

KC tells her friends that Hispanics are not welcome in home because of CINDY...KC poor daughter of a bigot...

KC manipulates people...she tells her parents that JG is "dangerous", stay away from him...obviously because KC wants to keep info flow from Grund's to parents nil...

KC is the star of her own dramas....

KC is the evil here....look how many people she has hurt.

Ya know I thought Mark Klaas said it best the other night...there's something very wrong with the dynamics of this family.

 

[Imajica]

Can anyone who is saying that LA really needs an attorney explain to me why? Why does any person who is innocent of any involvement in a crime need defending??

You hire a defense attorney for one of two reasons..you think you may be accused of a crime, or you are sure you will be accused of a crime you either did or did not do. JMO

If it was me and I was a man whose crazy sister had accused me of rape or attempted rape, while half the country wondered whether I was the father of my now discovered dead niece, I do believe I would want a lawyer to protect me. Especially if aforementioned crazy sister was suddenly getting better legal advice than OJ Simpson.

Lee knows firsthand how spiteful Casey is inside and how far she will go to weasel out of trouble at someone else's expense. Having an attorney protect you from potential harm, especially if you are innocent, does not mean you shouldn't cooperate 100% with law enforcement. There is a big difference between hiding behind some $1000 an hour mouthpiece, and simply having an attorney present to make sure no one* (Read:Casey) throws you to the wolves without cause.

Lee is a young man with his whole life ahead of him and is about to bring a new life into the world in the midst of this whole nightmare. He might be protecting his family first and foremost from whatever damage his sister could try to inflict to save her own bony bottom. He doesn't want his son or daughter to grow up with the stigmata of some sordid lies his sister told people in order to seem more needy. Can you imagine what his child could have to look forward to from the bullies in school in a few years?

Kids are mean, I myself remember the kinds of names the kids in school called me when they found out my stepbrother raped me. They were ruthless, and never passed up an opportunity to remind me they knew all about it. I would want to protect my children from that kind of pain no matter what. I would make sure my name was crystal clear for my son's sake so no one could ever taunt them about who they are and where they come from, no matter what.

There are so many valid reasons for needing legal advice, I just wanted to share another perspective. In our overly litigious society, we've all seen many really awful people hide behind their lawyers. But we've also seen many good people get royally pooched for NOT having a good attorney.

Also it's worth noting that that the Public Works department in Orange County retained a lawyer for the meter reader. He isn't guilty of any crime, nor is he suspected of being guilty of one. However, even his bosses see the necessity and prudence of protecting the rights of their employee.

I hope I've made a bit of sense, been a long day here in the Land of Port and I feel like I've rambled. :bang:

 

[beckaroozie]

Geeez, some families order flower arrangements, when deaths occur.

Some families finish lawyering up.

What a world.

:floorlaugh: Priceless.

 

[LinasK]

Being that the identification of Caylee was based on Nuclear DNA (combination of both mother and father), LE now knows who Caylee's father is. Could this be the reason Lee hired an attorney?

I had the very same thought!

 

[PassTheMotrin]

If it was me and I was a man whose crazy sister had accused me of rape or attempted rape, while half the country wondered whether I was the father of my now discovered dead niece, I do believe I would want a lawyer to protect me. Especially if aforementioned crazy sister was suddenly getting better legal advice than OJ Simpson.

Lee knows firsthand how spiteful Casey is inside and how far she will go to weasel out of trouble at someone else's expense. Having an attorney protect you from potential harm, especially if you are innocent, does not mean you shouldn't cooperate 100% with law enforcement. There is a big difference between hiding behind some $1000 an hour mouthpiece, and simply having an attorney present to make sure no one* (Read:Casey) throws you to the wolves without cause.

Lee is a young man with his whole life ahead of him and is about to bring a new life into the world in the midst of this whole nightmare. He might be protecting his family first and foremost from whatever damage his sister could try to inflict to save her own bony bottom. He doesn't want his son or daughter to grow up with the stigmata of some sordid lies his sister told people in order to seem more needy. Can you imagine what his child could have to look forward to from the bullies in school in a few years?

Kids are mean, I myself remember the kinds of names the kids in school called me when they found out my stepbrother raped me. They were ruthless, and never passed up an opportunity to remind me they knew all about it. I would want to protect my children from that kind of pain no matter what. I would make sure my name was crystal clear for my son's sake so no one could ever taunt them about who they are and where they come from, no matter what.

There are so many valid reasons for needing legal advice, I just wanted to share another perspective. In our overly litigious society, we've all seen many really awful people hide behind their lawyers. But we've also seen many good people get royally pooched for NOT having a good attorney.

Also it's worth noting that that the Public Works department in Orange County retained a lawyer for the meter reader. He isn't guilty of any crime, nor is he suspected of being guilty of one. However, even his bosses see the necessity and prudence of protecting the rights of their employee.

I hope I've made a bit of sense, been a long day here in the Land of Port and I feel like I've rambled. :bang:

Excellent post! I totally agree with you. :clap:

 

[LinasK]

My honest answer is no, I would not feel the need for legal representation if I had given LE consistant statements and cooperated fully. That is an honest response from me.

My guess is that Lee did not give consistant statements or that he knows something that he has not told LE.

We all have a right to our different opinions.

Kinda O/T but kinda not....Someone close to me was murdered last year. I gave my honest statement to LE and never even thought twice about needing legal counsel. IMO, you are correct....If you didnt have anything to do with the crime and told the truth legal counsel isnt needed!

I totally agree! Lawyering up is what Guilty people do, not innocent ones...

 

[OneLostGrl]

Many times kids look like other members of their family too. My son looks more like my brother than his own father. He even has blonde hair, my husband and I both have dark hair (our son is 14 so his hair color is unlikely to change).

I'm with Brini and others on this one.. I doubt Lee is the "baby daddy"!

 

[LinasK]

Do you really really believe what KC said about Lee trying to have sex with her? If she was being honest about that, it seems like it would be the only time she ever told the truth in her life. This evil demon does not know what telling the truth means. She would say anything to get attention, she is a liar, a theif, and a murderer. So why do you all believe that what she said about Lee is the truth?

I think LA probably got an attorney because he is a part of a family that is all under investigation. Whether or not he had anything to do with a coverup we don't know, but I am sure that just as the A's are being investigated for giving these conflicting statements, he is being investigated for the same as well.

By the way, with how promiscuous KC was I'm sure there are many men who could be the baby's Father.

IMO - this family has exhibited "odd" behavior from the get go. Its not just KC telling JG and TL that LA had "done something". But with JG she also went on to tell him that she told CA about it and CA did nothing. hhhmmm....

OK - so skip that - considering KC - could be a lie and ploy for attention. Let's go on....

All those "sex sites" that were on the computer forensics - LP insinuated those came from LA - that LA traveled extensively for his job and I "thunk it further" that LA could just be a horn dog and was setting up hook-ups in these traveled cities - with a live-in gf he didn't want to risk her finding anything on that computer so he would slip on over to mom's and do it there. If that is the case - could LA have a "sexual behavior" problem? And how did he deal with that? But, ok - let's go on...........

There has been swirling questions from the beginning about Caylee's bio dad. It was this guy, it was that guy, he died in a car accident in Orlando, no - he died in an accident out of state, no - he got married and had another child and didn't want any involvement - then he died. Yet through all this - never, ever did KC apply for AFDC, food stamps, or assistance. WHY? The financial situation in that home was very strained and that assistance would have really helped. Why was there never an application made? You don't have to identify the father to get it in Florida. Was this out of guilt? CA knew and was worried eventually someone would start asking questions? CA is all about presentation and she did not want her family being looked at in such a horrible light.

Plus throughout this all - whenever this had been brought up - even by LP on national TV (on NG) and said as much - NEVER EVER did Camp Anthony scream defamation, foul, - no - those remarks and comments were never addressed. As fast as CA was to want to sue reporters and protestors - she never even squeaked about what LP said concerning LA and paternity. But.....

Ok - let's go on............... LE asks CA and GA and LA for polygraphs. Per LP, CA and GA were willing - it was after they spoke with LA did they refuse and those were never done. LA!!!!

Then come the requests for DNA swabs - again GA and CA give it up willingly - yet again LA REFUSES - LE has to go the subpoena route to finally get his - ALONG WITH THE FINGERPRINTS.

Why why why if it is JUST YOUR NIECE missing would you not want to do ALL YOU CAN to help solve this and find her or find the killer?

There is just WAY WAY WAY WAY too much come out of Camp Anthony - specifically pointing to LA and his weird behavior that any normal thinking person wouldn't stop and say "hold up - what's wrong? why won't he ........"

And IMO that's way a lot of people believe this could be the case.

And, on the other hand, this family has protected KC from the legal consequences of her behavior all her life. This is just more of the same.

The As acted weird BEFORE any of this happened. They alienated the whole extended family, be enabling KC, and going along with her lies.

Brini, Liars do occasionally tell the truth. Even Scott Peterson when he said, "I lost my wife, this will be my first Christmas without her".
Casey told the truth when she said Caylee was close. Why would she lie about sexual abuse? It would explain her promiscuous behavior. I think Casey lied when she said the father died to deflect attention.