Letters to Casey from Cindy and George

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I haven't read the whole 8 pages yet so if this has been brought up....SIA.

Anyway, does anyone else find GA's handwriting to look more than a little feminine? I thought I was reading a letter from CA when I first came across his. Then through the content of the letter realized it was from GA! I have to say I am shocked at his "cursive" handwriting style. It just strikes me as .....womanly.

And even though we all knew that it was KC refusing the A's visits, to actually read their letters to her begging for any little hint of acknowledgement/attention, any quick glance from her ...IDK, what is it I am trying to say? It's just so...????? I want to shake them and say, "Stop it!, stop it!, nothing you can say can get through to this spoiled rotten sociopathic murderer you raised, and you make yourselves look as if you have no pride or self esteem/self respect." Honestly I get that a parent could feel desperate for attention from a beloved child they are separated from, but(in this situation) and at some point, shouldn't intelligence and reason kick in? Shouldn't they know by now that she is self centered, mean, cruel, mentally ill and has no use for them? My gosh, C & G, I can understand how parents feel love for their child no matter what, but that doesn't mean that you buy into delusions, or that you both should continually lay down in front of her and allow her to wipe her feet on you. They really need to grab a piece of reality and hold on to it with a death grip....I mean, seriously, have some respect for yourselves and try and save the family you have left. Until KC begins to show signs that she accepts responsibility for her actions there is no hope of getting through to her and no reason for the both of them to be her doormat. It makes you wonder if they are guilty of things that have not been proven yet or if they too are mentally ill. At least it does me.

JMHO
 
I think each letter from CA and GA are contrived twaddle.
I think their job was to sway public opinion and coax sympathy from potential jurors.
I am in complete agreement with Totally Obsessed.
I think AL gave the Anthony an assignment and this is where we really see the dysfunction play out. I look at these letters from the assigned parameter and I can see it. Both Ga and Ca almost parallel each other with their writing assignments.
I hope this makes sense.
 
I noticed a common theme with the family letters to Casey (including Mallory) and it is something that I simply do not understand. Why in every letter (pretty much) is it that the author of the letter must tell Casey that she is beautiful? I mean really. Is that the only way to get Casey to listen to what a person is saying to her? Stroke her ego and she will hear what you have to say? I find it so sad and actually it ticks me off. Casey is not the beautiful one, that would have been Caylee. I stayed up entirely to late last night (early this morning) reading the letters from the family and I could do nothing but shake my head. I do wonder how many letters Cindy and George will get now telling them that they need to stop with the BS letters to Casey and focus on what really matters...justice for Caylee.
 
I haven't read the whole 8 pages yet so if this has been brought up....SIA.

Anyway, does anyone else find GA's handwriting to look more than a little feminine? I thought I was reading a letter from CA when I first came across his. Then through the content of the letter realized it was from GA! I have to say I am shocked at his "cursive" handwriting style. It just strikes me as .....womanly.

And even though we all knew that it was KC refusing the A's visits, to actually read their letters to her begging for any little hint of acknowledgement/attention, any quick glance from her ...IDK, what is it I am trying to say? It's just so...????? I want to shake them and say, "Stop it!, stop it!, nothing you can say can get through to this spoiled rotten sociopathic murderer you raised, and you make yourselves look as if you have no pride or self esteem/self respect." Honestly I get that a parent could feel desperate for attention from a beloved child they are separated from, but(in this situation) and at some point, shouldn't intelligence and reason kick in? Shouldn't they know by now that she is self centered, mean, cruel, mentally ill and has no use for them? My gosh, C & G, I can understand how parents feel love for their child no matter what, but that doesn't mean that you buy into delusions, or that you both should continually lay down in front of her and allow her to wipe her feet on you. They really need to grab a piece of reality and hold on to it with a death grip....I mean, seriously, have some respect for yourselves and try and save the family you have left. Until KC begins to show signs that she accepts responsibility for her actions there is no hope of getting through to her and no reason for the both of them to be her doormat. It makes you wonder if they are guilty of things that have not been proven yet or if they too are mentally ill. At least it does me.

JMHO

Yes! You're not alone...see my post at #115 and Goldleaf's reply at #140
 
I think each letter from CA and GA are contrived twaddle.
I think their job was to sway public opinion and coax sympathy from potential jurors.
I am in complete agreement with Totally Obsessed.
I think AL gave the Anthony an assignment and this is where we really see the dysfunction play out. I look at these letters from the assigned parameter and I can see it. Both Ga and Ca almost parallel each other with their writing assignments.
I hope this makes sense.

INTERESTING.....

I still tend to believe that Cindy is as mad as a cut snake, but I like your thinking...
 
Bringing this astute post by Chiquita over from the general thread:

Hello WS :)

Thank you to everyone reading these letters and posting. As for the content of most of the letters, I am speechless. :crazy: Is it alright to say that I laughed so hard at some of the posts that I snorted? :innocent:

I have opened one of the files myself but have only read the "sarcastic letter" from Huzinga(?) pg 737 sorry about not posting the link, if anyone is interested in it further I will find which link I followed. I'm not sure what I was reading?

Anyway, reading what was being posted made me remember parts of Casey's letters to Robyn regarding the letters she was receiving. I thought it would be interesting to post some of those here.

(Thank you to the Websleuthers who read through those letters and did so much work in posting them for others to read.)

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100781&highlight=letters&page=2

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(I’m going to write a joke on the back , one that was sent to me today, clever!) Some of my new friends are silly. You’ll understand why! (Heart drawn)
(Joke found at link)
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From page 13607-13608
I find myself wanting to talk about any and all things random… like the letters and cards I received over the past two days. I can’t help but think these people are crazy but I love them just the same. It’s funny the friendships you can acquire in times like these. In any case, we are strangely blessed! (Heart drawn)
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I am posting this next part(below) because posts in this thread referenced letters from Cindy and George on the subject of sending clothes for Casey to wear i.e. "ruffles are in season."

P13635
Hey Cookie! Sorry I haven't been in touch. I'm dealing with a pretty big battle right now and with the last person I honestly expected- my Mom. Let me start by saying it's an incredibly long, but short story, and I've been holding off on complaining because I didn't know where to start.
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Thursday- She drops off clothes to Baez for me to wear in court on Friday (lets just say the only two things I was comfortable in meas my black flats and favorite gray blazer. Navy blue pants, far too tight, and an almost sheer shirt, that was not long enough, and had a decorative neckline that almost showed a mile of cleavage. Lovely)
So this happens early in the day, and she promises to come back to the office later that afternoon/evening, to prep for Friday. After numerous phone calls, Baez can't get a hold of her, or better stated , she avoids all contact, including texts. Baez contacts her attorney , Brad Conway, and gets the run-around from him. More useless details, but what it boils down to is my Mom is going to be escorted to court on Friday, via a friend of hers directly connected to the Today show.

Friday morning- I see what is brought for me to wear for my appearance; unfortunately I didn't have a say because the judge ordered me to come dressed appropriately (his intention is to actually help my public image. Kudos to Judge Strickland), so my morning didn't start off great. I also didn't sleep more than an hour before leaving here at 7:00am, because I was so excited....


P13636

….about Finally seeing my Mom. I walk into the court room completely shackled, which was against the judges orders, so I get seated, and Baez relays the message, so I have to get reescorted outside to get uncuffed- only from the waist up. Joy. Well, I trip as I try to sit down the second time, Klutz that I am. All in front of the camera. A few minutes pass they start to let in the spectators, all media and I ask if my Mom is there yet. Baez briefly tells me that she is “sick” and isn't coming. Welcome the proverbial punch in the stomach. Court did go reasonably well, a few laughs, courtesy of the judge, and I was back here just before 10:30. I talked to 3 of my attorneys just before coming back and they're so upset that my my Mom bailed on me and that fact that her attorney shows up, waving all (underlined) conflict with my Moms former attorney, who started working for the enemy the day he “resigned” from working with my folks, back on November 20, my brothers birthday.
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Saturday, around noon- Baez and my attorney who was down from New York for the weekend, came to fill me in on all of the drama. They still couldn't get in contact with my Mom , and are both still extremely frustrated about what went down the days previous. I'm right there with them. This is when I get all the details from Thursday – Saturday.
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Also noted in the letters from George is his growing unrest at Casey's actions regarding her accusations of molestation. The letters from Cindy where she seems the loving mother do not seem to be getting through to Casey, as she feels betrayed by and feels she has "officially lost her entire blood related family." With the letters released in the doc dump today from George and Cindy, my questions regarding the relationship between Casey and her family are coming into focus.

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…..out to Tampa on Saturday, ____ _____ Baez still couldn't get a hold of her. Turns out, she met with Meredith Veiera, formerly of the view, now associated with the Today Show, I believe, or Godd Morning America. She's not well enough to take advantage of seeing me in person on Friday , but can shmooze with the dirtbags the next day?! Seriously?!
But wait, there's more! (I'm sweating while writing this. My emotions are obviously getting a workout). Come to find out that she put a trademark on Caylees name months back, never told me, and even talked about doing the same with mine. This is the same time she publicly states that she plans on writing a book about this!
B-E-T-R-A-Y-A-L!!! I'm so sick to my stomach even thinking about this.
I'm the only person who has tried to protect Caylee throughout all of this, and it kills me!
All my Mom talks about now is doing a public service for herself, because she needs to. I can't believe my own mother is capitalizing, or trying to, off of everything that has happened.
I had written her expressing my disgust, grief and hurt after what happened on Friday, this is before finding out all of this. And what happens when she meets up with Baez yesterday to read my letter?
She laughs at the idea of getting caught with lunch on Saturday. Laughs!


P13639
I can't take it Robyn. I can't. I've done everything possible to hold my family together and I continue to get stomped on, thrown under the bus, and it doesn't surprise me anymore when it happens. I have too many other things to worry about and now all of this!

I've officially lost my entire blood-related family in the blink of an eye, in the midst of mourning my daughters death, trying to exhonorate myself , and figure out what steps to take in achieving these things, and I get ******** over by my entire family. I talked to Chaplain Gonzalez about it briefly, cliff notes version, and she wanted to cry. She told me my feelings are completely valid, and that I have to start looking out for myself. Not that I have a choice in the matter. They chose for me.

I know I'm not alone, that God is with me, I have my newly adopted family, and I have my Cookie. It's just hard to now have to mourn the break-up of my family, and to move on. I'm doing everything that I
can to forgive what's happened, but I can't. I can't. God is going to have to hold my hand on this one and hold me to that promise- to unconditionally love them and forgive their actions.

My heart is broken :-(


Back to what Casey thinks of some of the mail she has received.

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Story # 1 * Funny story*

I've told you about the mail I've gotten. I'm up to the thousands with positive letters and cards. Low 20's for negative. Good stuff.
Well.....

There are a couple of fellas who have either become infatuated with the celebrity or with the fair damesil (oh I spelled it horribly wrong) in distress. One is more hooked than the other. I've received pictures from both- good looking guys. One- Rob from Melbourne- single Dad of a 4 month old boy – 26- not so obsessed , but spent many nights and letters trying to win me over by telling me how “Hot” I am and “Sexy”, blah, blah. Gag me. Ha! He even told me how he was caught by his neighbors with a picture of me as the background on his phone. I kid you not. It's flattering, but I can't help but be weirded out. I've obviously never met the guy. Number two takes the cake. His name is Al- 30's , from Mass. Nurse and bodybuilder, Italian, again very good-looking. He sends cards and letters proposing marriage , every [/U card and letter. I'm his princess. He wants to marry me now and he'll take care of me, yadda, yadda.

Really?
Is this what “celebrities” have to deal with?
Yikes! I'll show you the cards. You'll laugh.

He is sweet in a strange sort of way.


:twocents:
 
BRILLIANT!! I agree, I think that Cindy is definitely using any contact to take chunks out of Casey while being 'Just a caring Mom' its full on passive aggression! Also agree with the 'perfect storm' scenario...what a psychological goldmine this lot turned out to be...who knew?

And the shirts she is sending to Casey to wear in court..its child abuse really. God knows what she's going to fit her out for trial in. Baez get Casey a stylist or something! Cindy cannot be trusted!

I can't work out where Cindy's madness ends and her outright nastiness begins.

I'm seeing KC and CA's actions in court after Mother's Day in a new light. I thought KC breaking down after CA gave her the card and said Happy Mother's Day was "I can't believe I was absolutely petrified of my mother's reaction and here she is two years later still supporting me". Now I think it's more like "Is this b&$*$ ever going to stop rubbing it in???" JMO
 
Another thing...IIRC, CA has said that she has gone to a therapist (I think she mentions this in her State depo); what must this therapist think? Does he/she read this stuff? Are they trying to bring her into reality or have they had the Kool-aid too??
 
I'm seeing KC and CA's actions in court after Mother's Day in a new light. I thought KC breaking down after CA gave her the card and said Happy Mother's Day was "I can't believe I was absolutely petrified of my mother's reaction and here she is two years later still supporting me". Now I think it's more like "Is this b&$*$ ever going to stop rubbing it in???" JMO

I have never believed that Casey was afraid of Cindy. I think that was a load of BS that Casey fed to LE in order to make an "excuse" for herself concerning those 31 days. I don't see Cindy afraid of Casey either. I see more of a hate relationship between the two instead. Who can hurt the other the most. Think of a divorced couple fighting over their children.
 
I'm seeing KC and CA's actions in court after Mother's Day in a new light. I thought KC breaking down after CA gave her the card and said Happy Mother's Day was "I can't believe I was absolutely petrified of my mother's reaction and here she is two years later still supporting me". Now I think it's more like "Is this b&$*$ ever going to stop rubbing it in???" JMO

I am thinking along this same track now... and my :twocents: is that CA is not allowing herself to be consciously aware of how extremely vicious she is being. It's hard to explain this but I really think that if asked "don't you think what you're doing/saying is hurtful to Casey," Cindy would indignantly claim that she is just doing what any good mother would do and doing it out of love and caring for her daughter. And she would believe herself.
 
I think each letter from CA and GA are contrived twaddle.
I think their job was to sway public opinion and coax sympathy from potential jurors.
I am in complete agreement with Totally Obsessed.
I think AL gave the Anthony an assignment and this is where we really see the dysfunction play out. I look at these letters from the assigned parameter and I can see it. Both Ga and Ca almost parallel each other with their writing assignments. I hope this makes sense.

Makes perfect sense! :)

I haven't yet looked at the dates of each of their letters, but wondered if they each wrote a letter and mailed it at the same time? You're right - the subject matter is practically identical in each set of letters.
 
INTERESTING.....

I still tend to believe that Cindy is as mad as a cut snake, but I like your thinking...

I believe she is, too. I believe their assignement is to talk about how much they need her, how much she means to them, how awful it would be for her to be taken away. how horrible it is that she is deprived from her family.
George's best falls flat, he says nothing to convey any real emotion. He might as well have had a box of crayolas. To emphasize his words, he used CAPS and underlined, etc. He spent more time on his penmanship and the signature flourish.
Cindy can't help herself with her assignment. She wants to convey that it is everyone else's fault that Casey is stuck in jail, but her digs miss their mark and land squat on her daughter.

These people really crack me up. All contrived bologna!
 
I noticed a common theme with the family letters to Casey (including Mallory) and it is something that I simply do not understand. Why in every letter (pretty much) is it that the author of the letter must tell Casey that she is beautiful? I mean really. Is that the only way to get Casey to listen to what a person is saying to her? Stroke her ego and she will hear what you have to say? I find it so sad and actually it ticks me off. Casey is not the beautiful one, that would have been Caylee. I stayed up entirely to late last night (early this morning) reading the letters from the family and I could do nothing but shake my head. I do wonder how many letters Cindy and George will get now telling them that they need to stop with the BS letters to Casey and focus on what really matters...justice for Caylee.

I found it odd also and creepy that Mallory's letter began with, hello beautiful!! I thought it was from George/Papa Joe for a minute, and that's creepy as well.

These people are wacked. I can't believe that they believe what they are shoveling.
 
Well, on-topic, I was noticing that GA's handwriting is very pretty and looks like a woman's writing, and CA's looks more like a man's. Very interesting considering she is the head of the household.

Off topic but I would love to see hand writing analysis on the letter starting on page 466. I've never quite seen handwriting quite like that JMHO.

Thank you strawberry for pointing these posts out, I had not seen them yet. And it is always nice to know one is not alone in their thinking. :0)
I so agree with Kat too, would LOVE to see analysis done on GA's style & content. Actually on CA's also.


:cow:
 
Anyway, does anyone else find GA's handwriting to look more than a little feminine? I thought I was reading a letter from CA when I first came across his. Then through the content of the letter realized it was from GA! I have to say I am shocked at his "cursive" handwriting style. It just strikes me as .....womanly.

Someone else mentioned earlier, but I'll bring it here again. She thought George may have attended Catholic school where penmanship is emphasized. This may be true, especially in one's early formative years, when learning to write, the strict discipline of nuns and their whips can be quite intimidating. :whipper: It stays with you for a very long time. I attended Catholic school for seven years. If the penmanship wasn't perfect, the nuns would draw red lines through it showing how to make it perfect, plus they would take points off for bad penmanship and spelling. It could be quite traumatic. My mother always wrote perfectly and neatly because of her schooling, too. I, on the other hand, was creative, and when I went into the public school system, learned quickly they didn't care how we formed our letters, so my handwriting today looks very little like the perfect handwriting I was taught.

When I saw George's handwriting, I thought he must have attended schools where handwriting mattered, where it was a priority, and it's still with him today because his personality doesn't seem to be one that steers clear of "the firm hand". There are other schools that put great importance on penmanship, not just Catholic schools. You can find that in private schools and colleges, plus schools affiliated with other denominations, as well as other types of houses of worship. I don't think George went to an Ivy League school, but he may have gone to a strict one. :whipper:
 
I'm seeing KC and CA's actions in court after Mother's Day in a new light. I thought KC breaking down after CA gave her the card and said Happy Mother's Day was "I can't believe I was absolutely petrified of my mother's reaction and here she is two years later still supporting me". Now I think it's more like "Is this b&$*$ ever going to stop rubbing it in???" JMO

I didn't see it as either way. No, I thought Casey's reaction was more of frustration, "When are these people going to stay away from me?". After reading the letters, I'm sure she wants nothing to do with them. She's not sad, she's not taunted, she only wants to be away from them. In other words, "Mom and Dad, get out of my face. Keep away from me.".

I do agree, Cindy is rubbing it in about Caylee, Mother's Day, etc. After reading the letters and seeing the pictures she sends Casey, I'm sure of it. Why else would Cindy be sending pics of Caylee inside the car sitting in her carseat and picks of the family on the cruise?
 
I believe she is, too. I believe their assignement is to talk about how much they need her, how much she means to them, how awful it would be for her to be taken away. how horrible it is that she is deprived from her family.
George's best falls flat, he says nothing to convey any real emotion. He might as well have had a box of crayolas. To emphasize his words, he used CAPS and underlined, etc. He spent more time on his penmanship and the signature flourish.
Cindy can't help herself with her assignment. She wants to convey that it is everyone else's fault that Casey is stuck in jail, but her digs miss their mark and land squat on her daughter.

These people really crack me up. All contrived bologna!

You're right they're totally contrived! I am seeing them in a whole new light after reading those...Cindy's little 'zings' are just great! George's final letter shows up all the rest as total BS too, no great shock in him as regards to her having already 'destroyed Caylee' he's known that all along....really looking forward to seeing Cindy on the stand!
 
I didn't see it as either way. No, I thought Casey's reaction was more of frustration, "When are these people going to stay away from me?". After reading the letters, I'm sure she wants nothing to do with them. She's not sad, she's not taunted, she only wants to be away from them. In other words, "Mom and Dad, get out of my face. Keep away from me.".

I do agree, Cindy is rubbing it in about Caylee, Mother's Day, etc. After reading the letters and seeing the pictures she sends Casey, I'm sure of it. Why else would Cindy be sending pics of Caylee inside the car sitting in her carseat and picks of the family on the cruise?

Or it could be that; you're right. Who knows?:waitasec:
 
Someone else mentioned earlier, but I'll bring it here again. She thought George may have attended Catholic school where penmanship is emphasized. This may be true, especially in one's early formative years, when learning to write, the strict discipline of nuns and their whips can be quite intimidating. :whipper: It stays with you for a very long time. I attended Catholic school for seven years. If the penmanship wasn't perfect, the nuns would draw red lines through it showing how to make it perfect, plus they would take points off for bad penmanship and spelling. It could be quite traumatic. My mother always wrote perfectly and neatly because of her schooling, too. I, on the other hand, was creative, and when I went into the public school system, learned quickly they didn't care how we formed our letters, so my handwriting today looks very little like the perfect handwriting I was taught.

When I saw George's handwriting, I thought he must have attended schools where handwriting mattered, where it was a priority, and it's still with him today because his personality doesn't seem to be one that steers clear of "the firm hand". There are other schools that put great importance on penmanship, not just Catholic schools. You can find that in private schools and colleges, plus schools affiliated with other denominations, as well as other types of houses of worship. I don't think George went to an Ivy League school, but he may have gone to a strict one. :whipper:

I think they are saying that his handwriting is feminine-looking, and not just because it is neat. I know plenty of men that have excellent penmanship, but their writing does not look feminine.

I'm not so sure I think his handwriting is feminine-looking though. It is rather large, but I don't think its too girly looking.
 
BBM - do you have a link to that?
This is likely O/T for most, so just scroll by. I am posting it for My2Sense. Forgive me , it is long and has nothing to do with the letters.
I am trying to compile this for you because some of it is from his book, and other parts are from interviews. I hope this will help until I have the book in front of me.

I do want to get you what I can from where I am. I think he mentions it in more than one situation, on Greta, on Blog Talk Radio, I think Steph Watts show, and or the Levi Page show.
let me find it. If I recall correctly, in his book he says something to the effect of
when I talked to Lee in ______month, he was very clear that Casey either did something to the baby or knows much more than she is saying. He detailed the 'flurry" of phone calls Casey made on the 16th of June. He also mentions in his book that he sensed mom and pop knew too.

(My opinion TWA): Every number she gave him, every place she sent him, every single thing he investigated and he did indeed investigate from morning to night, turned out to be lies.)
________________________________________

CINDY, GEORGE LEE ANTHONY IN MARK'S BOOK THE MURDER BUSINESS

Quotes from his book

‘’Murder Business”:

“Cindy Anthony was clinging to the delusion that the stench in Casey’s car was not that of a corpse but perhaps a rotten pizza and the media reported the flimsy, ludicrous myth, for months and months, that Caylee may be alive, because they wanted a story. This resulted in thousands of false tips that the investigators were required to investigate, no matter how crazy.The media myth wasted time and resources of the detectives……a story that drug on for months, long after it was evident/realistic that Caylee was dead.”

Mark spoke to them at their home, he said it was so clean it was surreal.
“George barely said anything. Cindy, by contrast, leaned forward and spoke animatedly. Why had they asked to meet me? They said it was because they wondered if I could help them. At a certain point, during a lull in the conversation, I had to approach them as a detective, not a member of the news media. I looked straight at them and said gently, “You know Caylee is dead.” There was silence. George looked at me and just bobbed his head up and down, as if to say yes. Cindy cried quietly. …. The police absolutely knew they had a dead child here. And if it weren’t for the media manipulating George and Cindy’s delusions, refusing to challenge them in things as glaringly obvious as the smell of decomposed body in their car, the “Caylee-is-missing” myth never would have come to life. A lot of time was wasted on it, because the media gave it such legitimacy.”

______________________________

MARK FUHRMAN, FORMER HOMICIDE DETECTIVE, ON THE FLURRY OF PHONE CALLS ON JUNE 16, 2008 BY CASEY
Excerpt from The Caylee Daily
“The book is filled with Mark Fuhrman’s homicide detective experience insight and opinions on various high profile murder cases. The book also talks of Mark Fuhrman’s meeting with Lee Anthony. Part of this meeting discusses the flurry of phone calls Casey made of June 16, 2008- the day concluded to be the day Caylee died- Mark Fuhrman concluded: “Casey immediately stared to think of how to dispose of her daughter’s body. She tried calling both her parents — to find out, I believe, when they were planning to be home….. She was just checking to make sure they weren’t going to deviate this day, and come home early and surprise her, especially her mother. ”


I will listen and find the exact spots, but I believe it to be within these. I know I read it in his book, but I am not at my home to get you the page number.
Mark Furhman, former Homicide detective investigates Caylee Anthony death

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPdDRIIPc1g[/ame]
partial transcript, possibly not related to Lee, but has Mark's opinions
"VAN SUSTEREN: More new information tonight in the Casey Anthony case. We have Casey Anthony’s text messages. Her text messages give us new clues about what Casey was up two. Casey has always claimed she was looking for her missing daughter on her own before the little girl was even reported missing.

But these text messages paint a different story. Little Caylee was reported missing on July 15. Three days earlier, Casey was not busy looking. At July 12 at 1:27 p.m., Casey gets a text message from an unknown person. It reads – “If I get everyone together for you tonight, are you down to have fun.”

Later that night, 7:41 p.m., Casey gets another text message from the same unknown person. It reads “Back booth tonight, 80s retro dancing. Tonight, it’s on.”

July 14, 9:39 p.m., the day before Cindy Anthony reports her granddaughter missing, Casey gets a text from a different unknown person- “Scoops tonight.” “Scoops” is a nightclub in Orlando. The message also has a smiley face.

The next day, July 15, Casey Anthony’s world begins to crumble. At 4:27 p.m. that day, Casey gets a text message from her mother–”Call me ASAP. Major prob.” That may be the understatement of the century.

That same day, starting about 8:40 p.m., Cindy Anthony 911 three times, and eventually reports her granddaughter Caylee missing.

The next day, July 16, the day that Casey Anthony is first arrested, she receives a text message at 6:50 a.m. It’s her boyfriend, Anthony Lazzaro. It reads–”Where is Caylee?” Eight minutes later Lazzaro sends another text message. It reads– “Why wouldn’t you tell me, of all people? I was your boyfriend that cares about you and your daughter. It doesn’t make sense to me. Why would you lie to me, thinking she was fine and with your nanny?”

Then, six minutes later, at 7:04 a.m., another text from Lazzaro, this one an important clue. It reads “Who is this Zannie nanny person?”

8:42 a.m. that morning, we do have a record of one text message sent from Casey. It is a mass texts that simply read–”Caylee is missing. She has been for 32 days now. Please, if you have any information, call me on my cell at home.”

At that point Casey’s inbox is flooded with text messages. Over the next four and a half hours, Casey receives 47 text messages from 13 numbers.

Later that morning, 10:04 a.m., Casey’s ex fiancee Jesse Grund sends her a text that sums up many people’s feelings about the case. It reads, “32 days–is that a misprint?” Joining us live is former LAPD homicide detective Mark Fuhrman, forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden, and Orlando Defense Attorney Diana Tennis. Diana, let me start with you. Jose Baez has his work cut out for him with all these text messages, does he not? It certainly fills in the blanks as to what’s going on.


VAN SUSTEREN: Mark, as you go through these text messages, what do you think?

MARK FUHRMAN, FORMER LAPD HOMICIDE DETECTIVE: Well, I think the most disturbing one, Great, for Casey Anthony, as she says on the morning of the 16th, Caylee has been missing for 32 days.

That means that the child has been missing, and we know the child is dead. That places the time of death squarely on June 16. There is no doubt now that that is the date of the death, and this is a corroboration.


And now you can go from that timeline, the 16th, and start putting together the body, the body that was already in the putrification stage of decomposition, was placed in that vehicle after George Anthony saw it on the 24th.

So between the 24th and the 30th, the child was moved from its original location after death. That’s what the most important in this text message is to me.

VAN SUSTEREN: Here is another chilling one, Dr. Baden. On July 16, one that is sent to Casey Anthony. This was after the one where she announced to the world that the child had been missing 32 days.

A response to her was, “Did she say anything,” meaning the nanny, “That would imply that she wanted a child of her own before they ran off?”

That suggests to me that this elaborate story about Zenaida had been pawned off on her friends, and she is trying to do the big coverup on that, which shows someone thinking, who know that what she is doing is wrong and is insane.

DR. MICHAEL BADEN, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: You’re absolutely right. That doesn’t indicate that she didn’t know the difference between a right or wrong, or that she is in any way legally insane.
FUHRMAN: That is an understatement, Greta. And I think all of this will be admissible, because it does not have to be acquired on a search warrant that can be scrutinized by a defense attorney. Somebody that actually has a copy of these texts is allowed to have them can simply give them to law enforcement, and they are admissible.

So it can be argued all you want, but–

VAN SUSTEREN: And, Diana, I am with you. Unless they can show that body was moved there after she went to jail, they are going to try to say she is insane, because that is the last-ditch effort. But it’s going to be a hard sell.

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(I'm having a hard time making the link go straight to this episode, but once you are on the site, punch it in the search box please and you will be able to hear the interview.)

Mark Furhman " I go there to talk to the Anthonys, at their request, and an hour into the conversation, you know your granddaughter is dead. Ladies and gentlemen: When you have the smell of a decomposing body in the trunk of car of a mother dropped off her child to ,a make-believe nanny,at a make-believe residence, while she goes to her make - believe job, dumps the car, and then there are hairs from her childin the tire well where the stench of the decomposing body is, and ironically the child is missing IT'S A HOMICIDE, NOT A MISSING CHILD!!!"

Nov 9, 2009 ... TV Host/Producer/Report and author of the blog Watts Up With This launches his weekly radio show Sunday Nov. 8th at 800 pm EST.
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Also, he discusses it on Levi Page's show Levi Page
Levi Page Mark Furhman fmr LAPD homicide detective and the author of "The Murder Business" discusses his new book. Listen Live here: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage ( once on his page, please search for this date November 8, 2009 )

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