Letters to Casey from Cindy and George

[LambChop]

Okay, this scares the crap out of me. I am now terrified I will have to sit and watch this happen. Excellent way you twisted and presented this. It really worries me.

The SA will come back with "and isn't it true that you loved you granddaughter more than life itself and would never do anything to hurt her?" The last thing GA and CA would have done was get the police involved. KC's up to her ears. GA would have NEVER put the baby right down the street from where he lived. As a former cop he would know better. Plus they had to leave the courtroom when JA was describing the duct tape incident. Too many things GA just would not do but a "spiteful *advertiser censored*" would. jmo

 

[LeLe1953]

15096

I want you to know that I no longer agree with ^Jose keeping you from seeing us. I totally believe that was a mistake and from now on I am going to fight to see you.

*shiver

I know its a lot easier for me to get through the day than it is for you. At least I have my freedom. My choice to turn things off or not. Just like today its a beautiful afternoon and I'm on the swing.....

Anyone else thinking Jose could just use the Anthony family dynamics during the penalty phase? I don't really think the Menendez defence is really necessary.

Cindy is just plain mean! She wants the world to believe she so loves KC . When she writes to her how much she misses her or believes in her, I don't think she is trying to convince KC of that, I think she does it to convince the rest of the world, knowing these letters are at least being seen my lawyers. How motherly to say " gee, I am so sorry you are in lock up & can't enjoy the sunshine. I will enjoy the sun, the flowers and birds while I sit on my swing & will also be sure to eat an extra taco for you on Lee's birthday." I mean to me, thats how she comes across. I have always felt KC was SCREAMING for help, her behavior got worse & worse & still it was ignored or forgiven. When she killed Caylee, I wonder if she thought " G-d dammi- are you looking at me NOW mom, do you see me NOW mom."

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Cindy is just plain mean! She wants the world to believe she so loves KC . When she writes to her how much she misses her or believes in her, I don't think she is trying to convince KC of that, I think she does it to convince the rest of the world, knowing these letters are at least being seen my lawyers. How motherly to say " gee, I am so sorry you are in lock up & can't enjoy the sunshine. I will enjoy the sun, the flowers and birds while I sit on my swing & will also be sure to eat an extra taco for you on Lee's birthday." I mean to me, thats how she comes across. I have always felt KC was SCREAMING for help, her behavior got worse & worse & still it was ignored or forgiven. When she killed Caylee, I wonder if she thought " G-d dammi- are you looking at me NOW mom, do you see me NOW mom."

I can't help thinking that prison is the only place on earth that allows Casey to actually keep Cindy out of her life.

 

[LeLe1953]

I can't help thinking that prison is the only place on earth that allows Casey to actually keep Cindy out of her life.

As someone who grew up in a very abusive home myself, I know KC has built up lots of walls. She seems to "fall in love" quickly & easily & seems to "hate" & put those who were important to her on a shelf, just as easily. I think KC has a world in her head in which everything is perfect................she'll get married, she'll have beautiful children, she'll have an education & great job, a wonderful home with the white picket fence & all this stuff now, well, I think in her world, it's just a bump in the road KC is evil but she didn't get that way by herself, she was surronded by it. I woud love to hear from child hood friends of Cindy's or college friends of hers to get their take on what kind of person she was back then. I would also love to talk with KC's child hood friends, those who knew her really well, had the sleep overs etc, to see how she was & how the household was..happy, tense.

 

[Just Jayla]

Red BBM

Good point, Mrs. G.

IF this was an intentional defense strategy, it is by far the best one they have come up with to date. For the first time in 2 years, I found myself thinking, "Okay, maybe I can see how and why she got SO screwed up that she finally just snapped." Not excusing her in the least, just trying to make sense as to how and why it escalated to the ultimate ending.


However, I am not quite ready to give the defense credit for such a magnificient strategy. So, I am not saying it was intentional. They may have just gotten lucky. Still, it might be the best thing ever for the defense during the penalty phase.

BBM-You can look at that two ways if used in penalty phase....as a mitigating factor, KC's parents caused her to snap, or as an aggravator-KC killed Caylee in cold blood to spite her parents that were so awful to her, she did it on purpose and with malice because she wanted vengeance against her evil parents.
If a juror concludes the latter, these letters could help make the DP become a reality for KC.

 

[steadychick]

Are there copies released of what she writes, for example if she wrote to anyone, does that get copied or mailed unopened, or after inspection but not memorialized?

Good question. It's hard to believe that she didn't answer at least a few of those letters. Is it possible to request copies of any letters Casey mailed, even if we don't know if she wrote any?

 

[faefrost]

BBM-You can look at that two ways if used in penalty phase....as a mitigating factor, KC's parents caused her to snap, or as an aggravator-KC killed Caylee in cold blood to spite her parents that were so awful to her, she did it on purpose and with malice because she wanted vengeance against her evil parents.
If a juror concludes the latter, these letters could help make the DP become a reality for KC.

I think they would, if and only if KC was a man. Unfortunately I suspect that once the jury gets a good hard look at the totality of the twisted nest of vipers and evil that is the psychological dynamics of the A household, that they will feel just enouh sympathy to go for LWOP, and not the DP.

 

[faefrost]

Good question. It's hard to believe that she didn't answer at least a few of those letters. Is it possible to request copies of any letters Casey mailed, even if we don't know if she wrote any?

I think this dump included both inbound and outbound letters. Didn't we see some letters that she sent to others mixed in there this time. I think she has simply and deliberately turned off her family, at least until such time as it suits her desires and interests to do otherwise. She could ignore them for years and it will cause her no mental anguish. She can just up and walk away from any relationship with no lingering feelings. It's what allowed her to do the things that she did in the first place.

 

[strawberry]

Regarding the possibility of KC blaming GA for killing Caylee; as unlikely as it sounds, it does happen. The Anne Marie Fahey case was very big around here. Thomas Capano was on trial for her murder. During the trial, the defense suddenly "admitted" that Capano had been there but it was his OTHER mistress who got jealous and shot Fahey. It was very lame and an obvious SODDI defense. However, he had to take the stand in order to claim this, and I can't see KC taking the stand. So I guess they could be cooking up something like this but can't see how they'll do it.

 

[Pattymarie]

I just wish there was one person we could appeal to end this whole ordeal. Not once, through this whole case has one person stepped up. NOT ONCE. Poor little baby....

 

[CuriousTwo]

Just want to be sure I haven't missed any of the letters from CA and GA to KC.

I found all of them that are at this particular link:

New PDF: Documents - Jailhouse letters Part 1
http://media2.myfoxorlando.com/docum...4775-15779.pdf

Does anyone know if they were all in the above link, or if they were scattered throughout the remaining Fox links? I'm scrolling thru them now, but if they were all in the one link, I'll stop searching - it's mind numbing to see all the letters from the public.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I think they would, if and only if KC was a man. Unfortunately I suspect that once the jury gets a good hard look at the totality of the twisted nest of vipers and evil that is the psychological dynamics of the A household, that they will feel just enouh sympathy to go for LWOP, and not the DP.

LOL! love how you put that! The more I see of the Anthony's the more I wonder at what other secrets are lurking behind the scenes...

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I just wish there was one person we could appeal to end this whole ordeal. Not once, through this whole case has one person stepped up. NOT ONCE. Poor little baby....

You know they wont....there's too much potential money to be made off this one...the trial will be one big publicity event for all the books / movies etc that are coming down the line.

This is Murder Inc.

 

[ThinkTank]

Just want to be sure I haven't missed any of the letters from CA and GA to KC.

I found all of them that are at this particular link:

New PDF: Documents - Jailhouse letters Part 1
http://media2.myfoxorlando.com/docum...4775-15779.pdf

Does anyone know if they were all in the above link, or if they were scattered throughout the remaining Fox links? I'm scrolling thru them now, but if they were all in the one link, I'll stop searching - it's mind numbing to see all the letters from the public.

George letters to KC - signed "Dad - Papa Joe"
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24039447/detail.html - Part 1
(1) Nov 4, 2008 - page 1
(2) March 3, 2009 - page 70-72 - Cindy's return addr label - letter from George
(3) March 16, 2009 - page 73-75 - Cindy's return addr label - letter from George
(4) Apr 1, 2009 - page 76 -78 Cindy's return addr label - letter from George
(5) Sept 1, 2009 - page 83-84 - Cindy's return addr label - note from George
[Sept 1, 2009 page 85 - fake return addr of George Anthony - Blink article]
(6) Sept 29, 2009 - Part 3 - page 677 - Cindy's addr label - letter from George
"I LOVE YOU " NO MATTER WHAT ! Papa Joe"
(7) Nov 3, 2009 - page 103 - 106 George addr label
(8) Nov 16, 2009 - page 116-118 Cindy's addr label - letter from George
(9) Nov 18, 2009 - page 119-121 - Cindy's addr label - letter from George
(10) Dec 3, 2009 - page 127-130 - Cindy's addr label - letter from George
(11) Dec 20, 2009 - page 143-145 - Anthony addr label - letter from George
(12) Dec 7, 2009 - page 146-148 - Cindy's addr label - letter from George
(13) Dec 21, 2009 - page 136-140 - Cindy's addr label - letter from George
(14) Jan 13, 2010 - Part 3, page 678 - Cindy addr label - letter from George
(15) Feb 17, 2010 - page 158-163- - Cindy's addr label - letter from George
(16) Feb ?, 2010 - page 187-194 - Cindy's addr label - VALENTINE DAY card,
photo of Caylee vacuuming, note from Cindy, note from Caylee
(17) March 10, 2010 - page 194-196 - Cindy's addr label - St. Patrick's card from
George
(18) March 25, 2010 - page 197-198 - George handwrites his own addr label - WHY? WHY?

[NO more letter from George to KC after the March 25th letter asking WHY?
George did not attend the May 11, 2010 or the June 1, 2010 Hearings]

Cindy letters to KC
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24039447/detail.html - Part 1
Feb 23, 2009 - page 4 - envelope from Cindy - contents from "Joyce" page 6
Feb 25, 2009 - page 38 - envelope from Cindy - note from Brenda Katz page 39
Feb 23, 2009 - page 46 - env from Cindy- letter inside from Judith Brush page 47-51
Feb 24, 2009 - page 52-54 - env sent to Anthony home - from Betty Beusen
(1) Sept 19, 2009 - page 79 -80 Cindy's return addr label - card from Mom & Dad
(2) Sept ?, 2009 - page 81-82 - Cindy's return addr label - card from Mom & Dad
note from the cats and dogs
(3) Sept 1, 2009 - page 87-93 - Cindy sent photos of Caylee's 4th bday party
Jose cannot give or read ltrs to KC any more
Andrea turned KC towards parents - Cindy told KC "I love you"
Cindy asks KC to try to mail a ltr out to Cindy - Brad or Jose will keep it safe
(4) Oct 14, 2009 - page 94 - 102- Cindy sent photos of Caylee in carseat, cat, Caylee
looking out sunshiny window w/curtain
Cindy says her and George are closer than ever
Cindy incriminates Jesse, says Amy & Jodi signed Memorial guest book
Cindy gave Zanny's hair straightener to Sgt Allen
Cindy taking break from foundation
pg 98 Jesse had paternity test done in Ohio by friend of Richard
pg 100 - photo of Caylee in Big Trouble shirt
pg 102 Cindy mad about photos of KC's back sores
Cindy says KC is not sure about their new adventure (tattoos)
pg 103 - Jose said KC won't wear the ruffle shirts Cindy gave
(5) Nov 4, 2009 - page 107-115 Cindy sent photos of KC and Caylee, framed photo of
baby Caylee, Caylee sleeping, Caylee in lawn chair,
Cindy disappointed she can't see KC
Joyce Story had dinner - says she is KC's God mother
Mallory goes to Eastside Bpt
may move to SC near Shane Stutzman
Andrea can get KC into her law school
Cindy talking about Jesse and Johnny Nelson in Jacksonville
asks about Zanny's mother working
(6) Nov 25, 2009 - page 122-126 - Cindy sent photo Cindy & George, photo Lee &
Mallory
pg 124 they visited with Jeanene (mitigation specialist)
the team is gaining momentum
tomorrow is Thanksgiving
pg 126 Perry the cat died Wednesday
Dec 14, 2009 - page 130-135 - Anthony addr label - note from Kris Turk - Cindy said it
came to their house but had stickers on it, which KC cannot receive
date? - page 140-142 - Cindy's addr label - Holiday card from Russell
Feb 20, 2010 - page 153-157 - Cindy says from friends at church put $ 50 in KC's acct
scripture verses - signed "R.J.M."
(7) Jan 14, 2010 - page 163-167
got CDs and movies back from OCSO
dinner with Mallory and Jody tonight
pg 165 Holly divorce final in Dec -moved to Shane's home
support KC 100%
(8) Jan 31, 2010 - page 168 - 174 - Cindy proud of her check fraud plea - sent photos of
Caylee and note "from Caylee" - page 174
ask Chaplin Gonzalez to call Cindy
pg 170 - Grandma P meeting with Jeanene today
Jeanene met with Grandma & Pa A and Sonnie & Uncle John yesterday
pg 171 someone tells Cindy Caylee is alive in NY with Zanny
Cindy believes KC is being framed
wants to know where KC got Lee's black band - wraps it around Caylee's
titanium memorial bracelet
pg 172 - someone sends ltrs posing as Holly, Cindy, George, KidFinders,
Kathi Belich
still trying to find a way to see KC w/o the world watching

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24039447/detail.html

page 171
Jan 31, 2010

Casey I don't want to upset you but I keep getting messages from someone that is claiming Caylee is alive & in New York specifically the Bronx or Manhatten. Said Zani is there with her half brother (Hector) she supposedly was/has been in California since at least Nov 2008. Same area we got that tip that Caylee was in New Port Beach Nov 2008.
I've sent Mort the info. I hope he follows up on it. He's about the only one I trust. I still believe you are being framed and need so desperately to prove it. I pray everyday for something to come out so you can come back home.

(9) Feb 17, 2010 - page 180-187 Cindy sends photos of Caylee and KC, Caylee &
George
looks grimmer to see KC
Cindy does not agree with Jose any more about not seeing KC
pg 183 Andrea said KC not seeing family is the worse thing that
could happen to KC - let potential jurors see that you are the
great person that I know
Cindy says KC was the greatest mom
pg 185 someone needs to be punished for destroying their family
pg 185 - year to change people's perceptions - NG diehards
Feb 17, 2010 - page 187-194 - Cindy's addr label - VALENTINE DAY card,
photo of Caylee vacuuming, note from Cindy, note from Caylee
Cindy says KC is isolated and not agree/with Jose keeping KC from parents
Cindy needs to talk to KC - not wait a year

June ? 2009? - page 199-203 - Cindy's addr label - ltr from Shane Stutzman church in SC

 

[Mrs G Norris]

:bowdown:

WOW that was some effort! Thanks so much for doing that....

 

[ThinkTank]

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent=CindyltrtoKCpg88Josenotgiveltrsanym.jpg

Cindy Anthony letter to INMATE Anthony saying that Baez cannot give or read letters from the family to the INMATE - dated Sept 1, 2009.

The jail posted a sign "ATTORNEYS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO CONVEY TO AN INMATE ANY WRITTEN COMMUNICATION OF A PERSONAL NATURE."

Defense Attorney Baez has committed a third degree felony by passing letters to and from INMATE Anthony's family to the INMATE secretly.... The INMATE wrote that this was being done in letters she wrote to a fellow inmate; Lee Anthony sent texts to his parents saying Baez was doing this; Atty Conway said on national tv that Baez was doing this....

Cindy Anthony told Good Morning America, June 15, 2010, that she gave INMATE Anthony a card at the courthouse, which is a third degree felony in Florida. Florida Statute Title XLVII, Chapter 944, 944.47 (1)(a) 1 - by introducing this item of "written ... communication ....except through regular channels as authorized by the officer in charge of the correctional institution...."...... 944.47 6.(b) "It is unlawful to transmit or attempt to transmit to, or cause or attempt to cause to be transmitted to or received by, any inmate .....at any place which is outside the grounds of such institution, except through regular channels ....

" excerpt from what Cindy said: "In a rare spontaneous meeting during a court recess in March, Cindy said she was able to give Casey a Mother's Day card."........

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...y_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0944/Sec47.HTM

 

[ThinkTank]

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent=ConwayTodayShowAnthonysexchangeltrs.jpg

 

[ThinkTank]

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent=LeetextstoCindyaboutBaezpassinglett.jpg

 

[ThinkTank]

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent=LeetextstoCindyaboutBaezpassinglett.jpg

 

[Eulalie]

I just read the letters--I had a few thoughts that I thought I'd post. Apologies if this doesn't add anything to the conversation; others have already mentioned much of this...

-Did KC call George "Papa Joe?" This struck me: "Please Casey, let Papa Joe/Dad come to visit." (Pg 202) It must have burned Casey that he effectively defined himself first as Caylee's grandfather, and only second as Casey's dad.

-I get the sense that the family is turning Mallory into the new doted-upon Anthony daughter, now that KC's in the clink and Caylee is gone. They talk about how awesome Mallory is, how she works (unlike KC), goes to school (unlike KC), how she calls them and visits with them (unlike KC), how she goes to church with them (presumably unlike KC). That must infuriate KC, too--she thought she'd offed the competition.

-I'm confused about the blink on crime letter (pdf page 217) tucked in between George and Cindy's letters. The heading addresses Casey, but the envelopes before and after are from George and Cindy. Did Cindy or George print it out and send it? If so, were they trying to warn her against a legal strategy that would try to pin the blame on them??

-From Cindy to KC: "So your (sic) not sure about dad and mine (sic) newest adventure." (re: the tattoos). (pdf pg 233/doc page 15007) I suspect she got this from Jose? It must have infuriated KC that Cindy overcame the personal news blackout between KC and her parents, if only in a small way. I imagine that Cindy spends a lot of time badgering Jose about news of KC, and KC spends a lot of time telling Jose not to tell her parents anything.

-I get the impression that since KC asserted the ultimate control over Caylee's life, Cindy has now asserted the ultimate control over Caylee's memory; Cindy is Caylee's voice (hence, Cindy can "speak" for Caylee with the "I love you mommy"'s. I read a weirdly triumphant vibe in Cindy's letters in that regard (i.e., "I still have Caylee's things, her pictures, her memories. You have nothing. Was it worth it? You lose.") Maybe that's not the case--but that's the impression I get from these letters.

And now, based on multiple references to Cindy calling and texting JB, KC and Cindy are fighting over control of Jose.

-The way George speaks to KC strikes me at the very least as inappropriate. Even if there's nothing there, I read a weird, boundary-less romantic/sexual undertone there.

-I think all the discussion from Cindy about JG, Amy's sisters, NY, etc. are just another way for her to try to draw KC out and get her to respond. If KC maintains radio silence, KC wins. If Cindy or George get her to talk, Cindy wins.

-I agree with everyone who's posted about Cindy's constant passive-aggressive jabs. However, it seems to me that at this point, KC has them coming.

-I think Cindy simultaneously knows KC killed Caylee, and still wants KC out of jail. IMO Cindy can't stand the idea that anyone else is in control of KC--she wants control of her, and if anyone is going to punish her daughter, it's going to be Cindy herself. Meanwhile, as someone noted earlier in the thread, KC has finally found a way to get away from Cindy and "support herself" without Cindy's help.

All of this is MOO.