Letters to Casey from Cindy and George

[Mrs G Norris]

Sorry to throw this off topic

But I hope ya'll are right! I can listen to interviews and look at what evidence has been released and know she's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt..
Most of us here can.. but you have the general public who aren't on WS.. who don't look thru the doc dumps or watch NG.... I can totally see how an "outsider" can easily be swayed by her defense... or just be confused to the point where they have a teeny tiny bit of doubt and not want to send her to death row.

Does the jury have the option of convicting her to LWOP? Or is it the DP or nothing?

If she is convicted of Murder 1 the jury can make a recommendation of LWOP or the DP to the judge, but its his decision, and he can decide either way.

 

[Dear Prudence]

ThinkTank, thanks for referencing all of George and Cindy's letters in chronological order. It's very helpful.

One thing that struck me as really odd, especially considering how they profess to have embraced their faith more so now then ever, is there are no special Christmas or Easter wishes for Casey from her parents. I would think this would be a time of increased writing or at least a special card or something. Maybe some of the communications have not been released yet, or maybe a defense team member is still sneaking special items to Casey?

 

[Gypsy Road]

I still can't believe that after all the "proof" that JB was smuggling letters and contraband in that he didn't even have his hand slapped. The Fla Bar seems to have given him a pass on several things. What's up with that. Sorry - a little off topic, but I can't wrap my brain around the fact that he's committed several no no's, but the only thing he's really gotten in trouble for (if you can call it that) is false advertising on his website (or something like that).

 

[beach]

George letters to KC - signed "Dad - Papa Joe"

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24039447/detail.html - Part 1

(18) March 25, 2010 - page 197-198 - George handwrites his own addr label - WHY? WHY?

[NO more letter from George to KC after the March 25th letter asking WHY?
George did not attend the May 11, 2010 or the June 1, 2010 Hearings]

*snipped*


hmmm....interesting.

Curious that this is the only letter than where no sticky, pre-printed return address label was used. George writes it in himself.

And this was THE "Why.." letter. The last letter.

Makes ya wonder if Cindy even knew he mailed this one.....

 

[The World According]

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[The World According]

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[Horace Finklestein]

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/...current=KCwrotethatattorneyspassedletters.jpg

INMATE Casey Anthony writes in letters to fellow inmate Robyn that her attorneys have passed letters and other contraband, including an American Greeting card and bracelet and a writing pen - a THIRD DEGREE FELONY

Conway admits to media that it was done
Lee Anthony admits it was done in texts to his parents
Cindy Anthony writes in a letter to INMATE Casey that it was done
Cindy Anthony did it herself at the courthouse and told Good Morning America about it
George Anthony told River that it was done
When will the guilty parties be held accountable for this FELONY?

I've been wondering when the rest of the anthonys will be charged as well. They are extremely lucky to not have been prosecuted for anything yet. Baez should be disbarred for this it's a felony.

 

[2goldfish]

and won't she be surprised when her darling daughter seeks to throw her under the bus. She hasn't figured out yet that that excited utterance 911 call is really the only thing preventing her from being bumped up to 'likely suspect #2". Something that I am sure JB is wanting to capitalize on. Without the tape CA becomes the one in the power struggle with KC over Caylee, and reports of a violent incident where she attacked KC the night before.

snipped by me :


you know something, if it were not for that 911 call I would have never believed it was KC. my money would have been on CA all along.

cause KC behaviour from literal day one almost makes sense if she were covering for her MOTHER.

 

[LinasK]

yeah. I was sure that OJ Simpson was going to be found guilty (for the murder of his ex wife and the Goldman man)...but no! I honestly don't think we can "rest assured" yet. It does trouble me that we don't know how Caylee died and when she died....big issues.

OJ had other factors going on that Casey doesn't- Celebrity, A "Dream Team" of lawyers, a jury that refused to convict because of racial bias, and the prosecution's botched presentation of OJ trying on the glove for the first time in open court... and I've since learned Judge Ito should have recused himself because he had a prior association with Johnny Cochran.

 

[LinasK]

yeah. I was sure that OJ Simpson was going to be found guilty (for the murder of his ex wife and the Goldman man)...but no! I honestly don't think we can "rest assured" yet. It does trouble me that we don't know how Caylee died and when she died....big issues.

:snooty:Not necessary for 1st degree murder conviction. We still don't know for sure exactly how and when Laci Peterson died, only theories...

 

[faefrost]

And if I'm reading ThinkTank's summary correctly, as of the doc dump, CA had not written to KC since late Feb.?

It would be fascinating to see these incoming CA/GA letters side by side in a table with the KC to Robyn letters, with maybe the dates and general topics of the "general public" letters added in... I hope & pray there is somebody in OC law enforcement tackling this homework assignment as I type... :innocent:

Keep in mind that we are just viewing a "snapshot" if you will of what was coming in to KC. There may be letters past February for CA or June for GA, but they are still considered to be under investigation, and not part of this document dump. It is probably safe to assume that there is a lag of several weeks before the SA moves something from "active investigation" to "discoverable evidence" and includes them in a doc dump. So CA may be writing current letters. Or at least may have been up until the moment that she read this document dump and realized that they are all public records.

 

[countzero]

What is scary to me is I expect a full blown revered up blitz of letters to ICA and media junkets in six months to begin. CA will, in her and BCs mind, need to remind the media of ICAs innocence.

Should be a good repeat show, not.

 

[Sherbie]

I think each letter from CA and GA are contrived twaddle.
I think their job was to sway public opinion and coax sympathy from potential jurors.
I am in complete agreement with Totally Obsessed.
I think AL gave the Anthony an assignment and this is where we really see the dysfunction play out. I look at these letters from the assigned parameter and I can see it. Both Ga and Ca almost parallel each other with their writing assignments.
I hope this makes sense.

Makes perfect sense. I couldn't agree more. That's exactly what's been going on, and it is the aim with everything Cindy and George do. I think AL wants some interaction in order to humanize Casey -- to receive and send (no luck with the latter, apparently) loving letters with her family, to get her to make eye contact with her family in court, to be seen to have some kind of feeling for someone other than herself.

She has her job cut out for her with that!

 

[Sherbie]

I can hardly believe how cold she was to her family. Refusing to see them or even write to them.

Their letters are very sad IMO

I am not surprised at all. Look how easily Casey disassociated herself from her own daughter and the horrible circumstances of her heinous murder, going out partying and carrying on as if nothing in the world had happened.

Disconnecting from her parents is a breeze, I'm sure, compared to that. It's Casey's way of dealing with things -- if she doesn't have to see it, hear it, live it, be reminded of it, then it doesn't exist. She thereby frees herself up so that she can live in a world of her own choosing, a world containing only what she wants it to contain.

 

[Sherbie]

He's taking advantage of them isn't he....it's just so WRONG. Could this be the reason they haven't been able to pay the mortgage?

Sounds to me like this guy has seen the Anthony's as an easy mark.

Apparently, he's an investigator in AL's office, so I doubt he's taking advantage of the Anthonys in that way.

However, maybe AL is setting it up to show the level of mental impairment in that family by presenting during the penalty phase all the nutty theories and crazy wild goose chases Cindy sent him on ("Is it any wonder this girl ended up a totally dysfunctional mess with a mother like this?").

 

[Sherbie]

<respectfully snipped>

Every word of every letter was for public consumption, I'd bet everything I own on that!
Maybe Brad forgot to advise them, but I know Mark would have. There is nothing that could make me believe they did not know any letter they write would be released, evidenced by the need to secrete them through Jose, and their understanding of why Casey has been advised not to write to them ( because the letters will be released to the public ) right?

Indeed, absolutely for public consumption! I've a feeling any "real" communication was probably displayed on Jose's laptop monitor during jail visits.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

OJ had other factors going on that Casey doesn't- Celebrity, A "Dream Team" of lawyers, a jury that refused to convict because of racial bias, and the prosecution's botched presentation of OJ trying on the glove for the first time in open court... and I've since learned Judge Ito should have recused himself because he had a prior association with Johnny Cochran.

Not to mention the fact that an overzealous detective found the need to allegedly "plant" evidence...had he not done that, OJ may have been found guilty even if that glove didn't fit...IMO, that glove didn't fit for it got wet and shriveled up a bit..JMHO

As always, when someone gets off on a charge of the law of the land, the law of the universe always comes aknocking...Karma gets it's just deserts, all the time. IMO...

He is no comparison to ICA, a nobody, a nothing...all her bizarre lies, compounded by her letters to Robin, which basically exonerated the "real nanny", IMO...is ICA. I feel as if she viewed herself as Caylee's nanny, maybe CA put that notion in her head, it's possible...I can just hear CA now, I am Caylee's parent for "I" pay for everything, you are just her nanny, her babysitter...JMHO

I bet once the jury hears of the 31 days Caylee had not been in ICA's custody, not calling the authorities will be a high hurdle to overcome for the defense. Not being able to put ICA on the stand to tell for herself will be another high hurdle for the defense. I have no fear that whatever people sit on her jury trial, they will do what's right. The evidence will speak for itself, Caylee will speak through the ME...JMHO

The defense has flipped with their someone put Caylee at Suburban while ICA was incarcerated..they abandoned that theory and I wonder if this is where ICA will plead guilty, no contest or take an Alford plea to save her own hide from certain death. I also believe a jury will not recommend death due to her age, has nothing to do with gender, for HHBP has sent a woman to deathrow before. He doesn't see gender, he doesn't see race, he rules on the letter of the law....JMHO

Justice for Caylee

Justice for Caylee

 

[Sherbie]

Those are all the letters that were sent via U.S. Mail. More were smuggled through JB, either CA or GA (forget who) admit that in one of the letters.


I want to say George has attended ONE hearing right after the jailhouse penpal letters were exposed. He hasn't been back since, to my recollection.
Understandably, I think that accusation really hit him hard.

These letters really shed quite a bit of light in re. the family dynamic, imo. Cindy is soooo passive-aggresive and George...oh, George. :shakehead:

God bless Lee for keeping a low profile and going on with his life.

I just got through reading all the nearly 400 posts on this thread. Whew! So much to think about!

I feel that Cindy is walking a fine psychological line. She is doing all she can (including coming up with all that absolute nuttiness in her letters) to save her daughter -- partly because AL says they need it and partly because she wants the perception of her daughter to be the one she portrays and wishes were the case. Cindy sees Casey as an extension and reflection of her own merits as a mother, and she can't bear people thinking she is a failure.

It's far too late for any damage control or repair for either of their images, but Cindy won't admit this to herself because she would have to accept that the child she gave birth to and raised became what she is today, and she just can't handle that. So she continues to come up with these wild excuses and theories in order to perpetuate the myth and avoid having to face reality.

It's so overtly evident that Cindy's letters to Casey are not those of a loving, concerned mother. They are more like, "Well, I have to do this because it's expected; you are an embarrassment; everyone knows I raised you and all your badness reflects on me...I have to try to fix whatever I can. But we both know the real score here; we know what YOU did. YOU took the most precious thing in my life away from me (yes, SHE was more precious to me than you ever could be). I am so incredibly pissed at you, and you better not forget that I can still find ways to burn you and to push every button you've got."

I don't think Cindy's personality is passive aggressive -- I think she's just plain aggressive. But because the situation won't allow her to be overt with it, she has to resort to sticking it to her daughter in a less obvious way, but in a way that she knows will cut Casey to the core.

I think Cindy's motives are complex -- this is not about a loving mother trying to support her rotten, murderous child because she deeply and selflessly loves the child (even if she hates what she's done). I believe very much that it's about Cindy's trying to preserve whatever she can of the ideal fantasy she maintains for her own psychological benefit, while at the same time finding ways to vent her anger and let her "beloved" daughter know just how much utter contempt she really has for her.

 

[Macushla]

After reading these letters, Cindy truly seems to be in deep, deep denial. I have said this a long time ago in another post, but will repeat it here - especially after reading her letters. Cindy HAS to believe KC is innocent because if she ever lets herself think otherwise, then she will also have to realize that something she said or did caused KC to snap or that she might have been able to do something to prevent Caylee's death. Cindy cannot go there and retain any shred of sanity she might have left.

After reading all the wonderful insights you all have gotten from these letters, I think I can forsee what might happen in this case. This will go to trial. KC will sit there and watch her parents go through the agony of a trial. They will have to listen to what the prosection feels might have happened. They will probably have to testify (and I am sure they will lie for KC). At the last possible moment after putting her parents through this particular hell, KC will plead out. she will stand up, tell some version of 'it was an accident', and know that her parents are listening. It will be her ultimate revenge. I can see her doing it, AND blaming them the whole time!

 

[faefrost]

Indeed, absolutely for public consumption! I've a feeling any "real" communication was probably displayed on Jose's laptop monitor during jail visits.

I'm actually going to disagree a little bit. I suspect that while Cindy did write the letters with the understanding that they would be read by someone other than KC, I really don't give her credit for being clever enough or subtle enough to have buried stuff in these intended for public consumption or use at trial. I think it's just more of her usual blast through saying whatever she wants, and getting indignant later approach to things. I don't think she would be planning that far ahead.

If Cindy had written something that she wanted out in the general public she would have made another of her classic fake anonymous tip type letters and sent it to the media, or she would have posted complete nonsense on an internet message board such as this one using a dummy account. She lives in the immediate and the direct.

I'm betting that she is outraged that her "personal and private" communications have been "leaked" to the media by the prosecutor who wants to murder her baby girl. I would imagine that her local postmaster has probably gotten an earful of "how could he not arrest the SA for this". Unless of course BC and GA had the foresight to increase her meds before the document dump landed.