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I've been thinking about this for some time now and I want to express it because it saddens me so.
I am very disturbed by the ease with which JA speaks of Travis, how she brought his personality, his words, his feelings into her testimony. She has taken him-every bit of him-for herself. It goes beyond the killing. She is the last to have him. The saying goes "if I can't have him, nobody will". And that is what she has accomplished.
There is nothing that anyone can do to make her stop saying his name. That makes me crazy. Hearing his name come from her foul mouth makes me ill.
Implying that he would care what she says or does is unbelievable. Knowing that she takes pleasure in owning him and keeping him alive while continuing to kill him is unconscionable.
This trial and this ridiculous defense has allowed this to happen. I don't know how defense attorneys sleep at night when they know that their defendant is guilty as charged and they're trying to set her free. THAT is not justice.

So sad. Bless you Alexander family. :rose:
I absolutely agree! how these defence attorneys can sleep at night realy bothers me. they sell their souls for money.
They think nothing of destroying anyones reputation !Over and over ! It's not justice it's about winning at any cost.
I'm looking for Chris hughes testimony.minread here last night ! Chris Hughes called nurmi a pig! Something to do with those fake letters? Anyone have the link or n formation? What day of the trial it was?
Thank you.
 
So she never volunteered to police that she'd hidden the newly purchased gun in the rental's engine compartment? Seems she might have helped herself if she'd immediately mentioned that when police picked her up. Her silence is just another indication she cares nothing about causing harm to innocents.
 
uh, yeah? Isn't the hypothesis that she wanted to be Mrs. Travis Alexander at all costs because he was so successful and amazing and when she was sure that wouldn't come to her she retaliated? Chortle if you will, but she's right when she says she didn't leave behind a trail of dead boyfriends -- "successful" or otherwise. There was something special about Travis, for sure.


Very telling that she told Doc S that Travis was on a higher tier of guys than she had been previously involved with. Did rejection by him mean rejection in the future from men she aspired to marry? Men not living paycheck to paycheck, able to travel, drive nice cars, have a closet full of nice clothes, etc.
 
Sorry if this has been asked ad nasuem, but I thought I read someone post the other day that there will be no cameras in court on Monday. Is that true? If so, what is happening on Monday?

TIA

There will be cameras, unless something changes between now and tomorrow a.m. The only thing that could change is something emergency among the participants.

Even a technical issue will usually not affect the cameras, as Her Honor will recess until it is resolved. We've seen this multiple times already.

Perhaps someone was commenting on the Order of Protection hearing which is scheduled for 8:30 MST on Tuesday. Those proceedings will not likely be public.
 
So she never volunteered to police that she'd hidden the newly purchased gun in the rental's engine compartment? Seems she might have helped herself if she'd immediately mentioned that when police picked her up. Her silence is just another indication she cares nothing about causing harm to innocents.

If I remember correct! Her mom told them she had the 9mm gun.
 
Very telling that she told Doc S that Travis was on a higher tier of guys than she had been previously involved with. Did rejection by him mean rejection in the future from men she aspired to marry? Men not living paycheck to paycheck, able to travel, drive nice cars, have a closet full of nice clothes, etc.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Each boyfriend was a step up from the last. Travis certainly was her best shot yet at the gold ring. I think a lot of her anger was due to the fact that if she didn't get Travis, she'd have to find somebody new and start all over again. And, by God, she DESERVED that lifestyle.

O/T but what's for dinner tonight? Another shrimp boil? More ribs? I'm ready to astral project myself down to Texas as soon as the dinner bell sounds. :great:
 
I absolutely agree! how these defence attorneys can sleep at night realy bothers me. they sell their souls for money.
They think nothing of destroying anyones reputation !Over and over ! It's not justice it's about winning at any cost.
I'm looking for Chris hughes testimony.minread here last night ! Chris Hughes called nurmi a pig! Something to do with those fake letters? Anyone have the link or n formation? What day of the trial it was?
Thank you.

Just going on what was posted here last night, it sounds like this episode was outside the trial, maybe at the hearing about admitting the letters or even just an anecdote relayed by Hughes. Hughes claims Nurmi told his wife there was incontrovertible proof that Travis was a pedo, knowing the letters were fake. Sky was devastated, and Chris was incensed.
 
I feel the same as you do. IMO, this trial has turned into "The Arias Show," and that Arias believes that the courtroom is her "playground." I do not know why the judge does not put a stop to Arias' antics. More so, I do not understand why Arizona lawmakers, elected officials, and citizens are not outraged by the high cost of this trial. I would think that Superior Court Judge Stephens would be directed to keep this trial on "track." I would think that Judge Stephens would be directed to prepare the state and defense to work all day Monday-Friday. It would seem as though Judge Stephens could meet with both sides telling them what will not be allowed in her courtroom (for example, instructing Nurmi & Wilcott to make sure that their client is not passing notes, ect.).

What is the story with the person drinking a large colorful beverage in court? It sounds as though it was a courtroom observer - I would think that Judge Stephens would tell everyone that food and drink is not allowed in her courtroom - plus, she should tell the defense to stop bringing in 16oz bottles of Diet Pepsi.

The bottled drinks in the courtroom look really unprofessional. If they need a drink such as this - they should pour it an appropriate looking cup (or something).

Arias admits to murdering Travis Alexander - I think that the state should find a way to show the pictures of Travis Alexander's mutilated body everyday - instead of getting lost into "The Jodi Arias Show:" Arias' feelings, Arias' PSTD, Arias' Fog, Arias' Wooden Spoon Abuse, Arias' stories.

Let's assume that Travis Alexander came after Arias - is it reasonable in self defense to stab someone almost 30 times, almost cut off their head, and shoot them?

If a person is sleeping in their home - is woken up by an intruder - the intruder attacks the person - the person is able to shoot the intruder - instead of calling 911, or, fleeing to safety - the person stabs their intruder thirty times - the intruder trying to get out of the house that he broke into is stabbed in the back and dragged back into the house where the person slits his throat. The house owner then discards the body, does some cleaning - and leaves to go on a road trip.

The above is not reasonable - if a home owner shot at an intruder running out of their front door, the home owner would be in trouble.

Even if Travis Alexander was an abusive sex deviant - Arias has no claim to self defense (IMO).

Everything about Arias is sick - down to how Arias has taken over the courtroom.

Arizona tax payers should be upset at the cost of this trial - if I were an Arizona resident contact the Commission on Judicial Performance, become involved with judicial nominating commissions, serve on the Commission on Judicial Performance, contact the governor's office, contact the state attorney general's office.

Criminals cause so much damage - criminals destroy lives - if citizens could get the funding for educating our children, funding for mentally ill - perhaps criminals could be stopped before lives are destroyed. Who knows if Arias could have been stopped - we do know that the education system failed (she dropped out which should not happen). During her time in school - her teachers did not notice anything? Being able to have qualified teachers, staff, school psychologists may be able to prevent evil from destroying.

I feel so helpless - frustrated. Is there a Websleuths Board that discusses ways individuals can make their communities stronger, and safer? Thank you all - "Websleuthers" are the best and it is an honor to be able to post in the same board as "Webslether," (you are all smart, brave, compassionate, strong)!

I'm beyond disgusted with this judge! Lack of control. I've watched many trials! This is the worst. Maybe it's time for her to retire. She is totaly non effective.
:furious:
 
I absolutely agree! how these defence attorneys can sleep at night realy bothers me. they sell their souls for money.
They think nothing of destroying anyones reputation !Over and over ! It's not justice it's about winning at any cost.
I'm looking for Chris hughes testimony.minread here last night ! Chris Hughes called nurmi a pig! Something to do with those fake letters? Anyone have the link or n formation? What day of the trial it was?
Thank you.

I've been searching for Chris Hughes' testimony all night looking for this. I went through Day 1 all the way up to the day Jodi got on the stand and still can't find anything.
 
Just going on what was posted here last night, it sounds like this episode was outside the trial, maybe at the hearing about admitting the letters or even just an anecdote relayed by Hughes. Hughes claims Nurmi told his wife there was incontrovertible proof that Travis was a pedo, knowing the letters were fake. Sky was devastated, and Chris was incensed.

Thank you for clarifying. Well Chris Hughes called it right! Their behaviour has been totaly inapropiate! They know this evil person did this evil crime! They have helped her Enbelish! Lie and deceive! They know she comitted a brutal crime and it wasnt! Self defence! The pitiful thing ! The defence. Puts words in their. witness mouth! Leading them to say whatever fits.
It realy bothers me! The extremes that they have resorted too! Oh heck I'm ranting now.:furious::furious:
I pray Travis gets justice! With all my heart and soul! :please::please::please::please:
 
I've been searching for Chris Hughes' testimony all night looking for this. I went through Day 1 all the way up to the day Jodi got on the stand and still can't find anything.

I don't think he actually testified. IIRC it was Gus Searcy who brought this up? I may not have it right. He said Hughes had called him wanting to know why he was possibly on the defense witness listing and said Nurmi was a snake. He said Nurmi was saying he had "proof" those letters were genuine. Something like that anyway. Somebody more knowledgeable than me would know better.
 
I'm beyond disgusted with this judge! Lack of control. I've watched many trials! This is the worst. Maybe it's time for her to retire. She is totaly non effective.
:furious:


:rocker: I totally agree ... this is JMO, but I wonder IF she ever tried a murder case before ? This trial is way too much for lack of expertise, IMO !

I still do not understand WHY she did nothing about Jodi and her mit specialist "handing off" that notebook to Jodi's mother ...

:seeya: Anyway ... catch up with y'all later for updates ...

:great: I'm having a "parade party" today ... and no doubt we will be discussing the Arias Trial ... and other cases as well ... LOL !

:seeya:
 
Very telling that she told Doc S that Travis was on a higher tier of guys than she had been previously involved with. Did rejection by him mean rejection in the future from men she aspired to marry? Men not living paycheck to paycheck, able to travel, drive nice cars, have a closet full of nice clothes, etc.

She'd spent 4 yrs. with Daryl, still no ring, or in Jodi-speak, "The relationship wasn't progressing." He moved away and salvation arrived in the form of TA. Mesa, with its active singles wards, must have been horrifying to Jodi, seeing the younger, prettier, vastly more wholesome competition. By May 08 Jodi realized she'd squandered two of her dwindling youthful years on an investment that would never pay off. Hell hath no fury...
 
I've been searching for Chris Hughes' testimony all night looking for this. I went through Day 1 all the way up to the day Jodi got on the stand and still can't find anything.

I heard it was outside of court! Hearing! But if you find it let me know. Lol me too I looked last night. I was looking for Chris Hughes testimony. Old threads! I came into websleuths after the trial started so I missed alot.
I hadn't followed anymore trials since caylee Anthony. I'm glad I did! The family needs all the support we can give.i humbly say! ! god bless Kcl ! Pasa! And all those that are able to attend the trial.
I think it's cool how nobody misses a beat. I think someone alerted dr drew about her pill popping ! Finger flipping!!! pDocument stealing session!! Lol lol Cuz it aired live! On national tv lol. You can run but you cannot hide. You can bet that your sins will find you out.:floorlaugh:


Who was question the quack when she did the birdie! Was it martinez? I can't remember! Maybe it was directed at him !
Someone here mentioned that her ebay drawings aren't selling? I think her mom and aunt live in ca? So they all have to be here! And that can get very expensive. I know the justice for ja site! Has some kind of donation thing set up, to add money to ja books.
 
As exasperating as the non-stop sidebars are, I like Judge Stephens. If nothing else, the jurors will know that both sides were given a fair hearing by the judge.
 
Didn't RS mention someone by the name of Alan who was Jodi's first sexual (oral) encounter? I believe RS stated that Jodi had multiple sexual encounters with this particular guy starting at around 13, maybe?

Oh yeah! I had forgotten about that. IIRC it was JM who brought this boy up while crossing Big Gus. JA had told him when TA woke her up by preforming oral sex on her and that it was a violation or some sort of bullchit.

Because women really hate that :giggle:
 
It's in the court record.

Cite?

When police arrived and searched the rental car they found a box of 9mm ammo, a box of books and two knives but no gun in the trunk. Later the rental agency found the gun in the engine compartment. A warrant was issued to search the parents house and a box of .25mm ammo was found at their residence.

Okay, because this is starting to annoy me, I won't be subtle anymore:

Unless we are talking about a firearm in the shrunken down sub in Fantastic Voyage, There's no such thing as .25 mm ammo.

You can have .25 caliber ammo. You can have 25 mm ammo, but conflating caliber and metric (ie, apples and oranges for measuring the size of a bullet) as .25 mm is simply ridiculous on the face of it.

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Do you have any idea how small .25mm (25% of 1 millimeter) is?

So when I say it's prima facie wrong that ".25 mm ammo" was found, I'm not guessing.
 
I've been searching for Chris Hughes' testimony all night looking for this. I went through Day 1 all the way up to the day Jodi got on the stand and still can't find anything.

If I find anything on it I will pm you
 
As exasperating as the non-stop sidebars are, I like Judge Stephens. If nothing else, the jurors will know that both sides were given a fair hearing by the judge.

thats how i feel,yeah im tired of the endless sidebars but i dont see her bias as another poster said last night.

she has been more than fair with both sides,which imo means there are no grounds for an appeal that way


are we taking bets yet on once juan starts how soon the first ojection/sidebar will be?
 
Very telling that she told Doc S that Travis was on a higher tier of guys than she had been previously involved with. Did rejection by him mean rejection in the future from men she aspired to marry? Men not living paycheck to paycheck, able to travel, drive nice cars, have a closet full of nice clothes, etc.

she dated a string of losers she could easily snow and then control. TA was the jackpot, in her mind. nice house, made good money, had very nice friends who adored him, etc.
i think her frustration over not being able to win him over completely and be 'the one' just drove her to what she did.

one thing i'm just sticking in here is that conversation she and TA had about marrying other people. that was so manipulative and yet her DT keeps bringing it up as evidence she didn't want to marry TA. what she was doing was making sure he understood that he wasn't going to find a freak in bed like her in the pool of nice mormon girls he was interested in. i've listened to that several times and it's clear as a bell to me what she's doing.

and those journal entries about there being something 'off' about him and all the reasons she didn't want to marry him? well, personally i think that and a LOT of these journal entries were written much later and are self-serving. i think a great deal of the journal evidence is completely fake.
 
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