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So each side can list potential witnesses just in case? Are they allowed to list witnesses they know they won't call, just to worry the defendant? Just curious! Also do you know if there is a time limit as to how far in advance they must add a witness to the list? Or can they just drop a bomb on the defense at the last minute.

Yes, if the individual isn't listed as a witness the state or defense can't (unless the judge rules otherwise) just call a person to the stand without any notice.

Witnesses usually have to be listed 30 days before trial.

That isn't the case for rebuttal witnesses.
 
flores-report-detailed-breakdown

4:00 am June 4, 2008 Weds Jodi arrives at Travis’ house in a white rental car.
Morning June 4, 2008 Weds Zach Billings (Travis roommate) his day off work. Zach said he got up and returned (his) car rental he had been using. His car was being repaired after being in an accident. (Flores Page 17) NOTE: BOTH Jodi and Zach are driving car rentals during the same time to Travis’ house.
Morning June 4, 2008 Weds Enrique said the last time he saw Travis was on Wednesday 2008
6-4-08. He said that he remembered talking to Travis that morning and Travis told him that he had a conference call scheduled that day. Travis also told Enrique that he hadn’t slept very much, only getting about 45 minutes of sleep that night. (Flores Page 15).

Noon June 4, 2008 Weds Travis last outgoing text was to Chris Hughes about a very
important conference call for that evening.(Flores Pg 13)
1:40 pm June 4, 2008 Weds Jodi and Travis make sexually suggestive photos
3:00 pm June 4, 2008 Weds Zach returned to Travis house 1500 hrs./3pm (Flores Page 17)
4:00 pm June 4, 2008 Weds Zach went to his girlfriend, Mandy’s house 1600 hrs/4pm (Flores Page 17)
4:19 pm June 4, 2008 Weds Last activity on Travis’ LAPTOP was at 1619 hrs./4:19 pm
This consisted of email activity. (Flores Page 11)
5:29 pm June 4, 2008 Weds Time on the last photo of Travis alive
5:30 pm June 4, 2008 Weds Time on the photo of Travis bleeding on floor
6:30 pm June 4, 2008 Weds Enrique said the last time he remembered seeing Travis was on Wednesday evening when he got home from work. He remembered Travis on the phone, possibly on a conference call at 1800 to 18:30 hrs./6pm to 6:30 pm (Flores Page 15)
9:00 pm June 4, 2008 Weds After Zach CLEANED his girlfriend Mandy’s house he returned to Travis’ house at 2100 hrs./9 pm (Flores Page 17)
? June 4, 2008 Weds Zach first told Det. Flores that he did the laundry on Saturday 7th of June (Flores Page 7). Then Zach clarified to Det. Flores that he did the laundry on Wednesday June 4th (Flores Page7) NOTE: This
is VERY IMPORTANT because he clarified that he did the washing on Wednesday June 4th. He stated that he uses the washer and dryer at the house when doing the laundry.****IMPORTANT TO READ THESE PARAGRAPHS****(Flores at the bottom paragraph of page 7-8)

June 4, 2008 Weds Det. Flores noticed that Travis’ bedding was missing from his bed (Flores Page 10)(On Flores Page 8 Det. Flores asked Zach about Travis’ bed-room especially the bedding. Zach said that Travis
had a brown comforter and light color sheets. He has about 4 to 5 pillow with brown pillowcases. Zach said the only thing he noticed unusual in Travis’ bedroom was that it had been “tossed” (Flores Page 8) Back to Page 10 of Flores Report.Detective Flores said a search of the washer and dryer in the laundry room revealed that Travis’ bedding was in the DRYER. The WASHER had Travis’ clothing that consisted of under garments, sweat pants, shorts, towels, and t-shirts. (Flores Page 10)
? ? ? Enrique told Detective Flores that he did laundry early that week… no particular day was mentioned. (Flores Page 16)
? June 4, 2008 Weds Zach noticed furniture on tile downstairs had been moved on Wednesday 4th or Thursday 5th. He also noticed a floor cleaner that had been sitting down stairs the entire time. He said he thought Travis had been preparing to clean the floor or had cleaned it.
Zach thought it odd that the same items were in the same position. He thought Enrique had put some items back. He said the banister felt slick like it had been cleaned. He thought Travis had been cleaning and cleaned the banister. (Flores Page 8)
? June 4, 2008 Weds Zach later stated that he remembered the furniture being moved or pushed off the tile and the floor cleaner out. (Flores Page 17)

? June 4, 2008 Weds Enrique in his follow-up interview said that the last time he remembered seeing Travis was on Wednesday June 4th. He remembered talking to Travis that morning and he told him he had a conference call scheduled that day. Travis told him that he hadn’t slept very much, only getting about 45 minutes of sleep that night. Enrique told the Detective that only 5 people had been in the home
that week of June 2nd. Travis, Zachary, Amanda, him and his girlfriend, Kim. (Flores Page 15)
? June 4, 2008 Weds Both roommates Zach and Enrique said they last saw and spoke to Travis app. 4-5 days prior (to Monday June 9-which would make it Wednesday 4th or Thursday 5th (Zach changed dates several times when he last saw Travis. I have listed each time he states that he saw him last). (Flores Page 3)
June 5, 2008 Thurs Both roommates Zach and Enrique said they last saw and spoke to Travis app 4-5 days prior (to Monday June 9-which would make it Wednesday 4th or Thursday 5th (Zach changed dates several times when he last saw Travis. I have listed each time he states that
he saw him last). (Flores Page 3)
? June 5, 2008 Thurs Zach noticed furniture on tile downstairs had been moved on Wednesday 4th or Thursday 5th.
11:30 am June 5, 2008 Thurs Zach Billings said Thursday morning was last time he remembers seeing Travis. Zach said he left to go pick up his girlfriend, Amanda. He said he just saw Travis in passing as he walked out of the house. When Zach returned a few hours later he did not remember seeing Travis. (Flores Page 6)
1:30 pm June 5, 2008 Thurs Zach said he spent the entire day with his girlfriend, Amanda. He said they ate lunch and returned to Travis’ home 1330 or 1400 hrs./1:30 pm or 2 pm. and watched some movies. Then they left and did some shopping and ate dinner in Tempe. (Flores Page 6)
6:00 pm June 5, 2008 Thurs Enrique said when he got home around 1800 hrs./6 pm that the front door was locked. This was unusual because Travis normally keeps the door unlocked. Enrique noticed the downstairs furniture had been moved and pushed off the tile floor. He noticed the floor cleaner in the middle of the living room floor. He assumed Travis was getting
ready to clean the floor. He hung out in his bedroom until his girlfriend, Kim showed up. That were going to to the Temple. Kim told him something about Travis’ CTR ring and watch was sitting on the kitchen counter. This was unusual because he normally doesn’t go anywhere without them. (Flores Page 16)

12:00 am June 5, 2008 Thurs Zach said he returned to Travis house around midnight.
(Flores Page 6)
8am – 8pm June 6, 2008 Friday Zach said he spent the day at work at a restaurant called McGrath’s Fish House located Stapley & US 60 Freeway He stated he worked from 0800 hrs. to about 2000 hrs. (Flores Page 6)
Later June 6, 2008 Friday After work Zach went to Amanda’s house for about an hour. He said it was Amanda’s mother’s birthday. (Flores Page 7)
9:00 pm June 6, 2008 Friday Zach & Amanda went back to Travis house 2100 hrs. and watched movies. Then he took Amanda home about midnight. (Flores Page 7)

Morning June 7, 2008 Sat Zach said he had the day off of work. He said he had to attend a few meetings throughout the day. He said he ran errands throughout the day. (Flores Page 7)
? June 7, 2008 Sat Zach told Det. Flores that he “THINKS HE DID THE LAUNDRY” on Saturday 7th.(Later in the interview Zach clarified that he did the laundry on Wednesday June 4th and uses the washer and dryer at Travis’ home to do the laundry)( Flores/Page 7-8)
? June 7, 2008 Sat Zach clarified that he cleaned his room on Saturday 7th. (Flores/Page 7-8)
? June 7, 2008 Sat Zach said that he sent Travis a text message about a mailbox key on Saturday, but Travis didn’t respond. (Flores Page 7)
? June 7, 2008 Sat Enrique said that he last talked with Zach on Saturday, June 7th. He said that Zach asked him if he had seen Travis that week. (Flores Page 16)
2:30 pm June 7, 2008 Sat Zach’s first meeting he attended 1430 hrs./2:30pm. (Flores Page 7)
4:00 pm June 7, 2008 Sat Zach left his last meeting at 1600 hrs./4 pm. (Flores Page 7)
4-9 pm June 7, 2008 Sat Zach had dinner with Amanda’s family until 2100 hrs./9 pm. (Flores Page 7)
9:00 pm June 7, 2008 Sat Zach took Amanda back to Travis’ house to hang out and watch another movie until about midnight again. (Flores Page 7)
Morning June 8, 2008 Sunday Marie Hall said she didn’t see Travis at Church
9:00 am June 8, 2008 Sunday Zach said he was on his way to Church and car battery was dead. A neighbor with cables helped him jump his battery. He went to Church at 0900 hrs./9 am. (Flores Page 7)
? June 8, 2008 Sunday Enrique said it was odd that Travis missed Church on Sunday. He said that he assumed he was out of town or something. He said that both Travis’ bedroom and office doors were closed.(Flores Pg. 16)
? June 8, 2008 Sunday Zach said that he sent a text message to Travis on Sunday about a mailbox key, and Travis didn’t respond. (this was the second of two text messages to Travis from Zach). (Flores Page 7)
3:00 pm June 8, 2008 Sunday Zach went to Amanda’s after Church to 1500 hrs./3 pm.
(Flores Page 7)
11:30 pm June 8, 2008 Sunday Zach returned to Travis’ house at 2330 hrs./11:30 pm. (Flores Page 7)
8:00 am June 9, 2008 Monday Zach went to work 0800 hrs./8 am-1645 hrs./4:45 pm. (Flores Page 7)
4:45 pm June 9, 2008 Monday After work Zach went to dinner with Amanda . They ran some errands. (Flores Page 7)
8:00 pm June 9, 2008 Monday Zach and Amanda returned to Travis’ house at 2000 hrs./8:00 pm. (Flores Page 7)
9:30 pm June 9, 2008 Monday Enrique noticed an unusual smell on Monday night at around 2130 hrs./9:30 pm when he got home from a church activity. He never asked anyone about it. That night he said that he was in his room after he took his shower, Zach knocked on his door and notified him that something had happened to Travis and the police were on their way. (Flores Page 16)
About 10:00 pm June 9, 2008 Monday Marie Hall got worried because she hadn’t heard from Travis all week and they were supposed to leave for Cancun the next morning at 0925 hrs/9:25 am on a business trip. (Flores Pages 3 & 6))
**Marie knocked on Travis’ door and didn’t get an answer
**She noticed Napoleon the dog running around downstairs
**Marie went back home, but soon called two of her friends, Michelle Lowery and Dallin Forrest. They met up with her at Travis’ house
**They noticed a white car in the driveway
**They knocked on the door and no answer
**Michelle called someone to get the garage keypad code and they entered the home
**They noticed Travis’ LAPTOP COMPUTER and his CELLULAR PHONE sitting on desk in the den
**They went upstairs and knocked on Zach’s door. Zach was in his bedroom with girlfriend, Amanda McBrien.
10:00 pm June 9, 2008 Monday Zach said that Travis’ friends knocked on his bedroom door at 2200 hrs.10 pm. He told them that he hadn’t seen Travis for several days and thought he had gone on a business trip out of town. (Flores Pages 3, 6, & 7)
? June 9, 2008 Monday Zach got a set of keys and unlocked Travis’ bedroom. They found him dead. They exited & called authorities. The other roommate Enrique was asleep in his room. They informed him of the situation and he exited the house also and called 911. (Flores Pages 3 & 6)
? June 9, 2008 Monday Officers and Mesa Fire Department Paramedics entered the home and located the body. They said that the body appeared to have been in the bathroom for at least a day or two. (Flores Page 3)
10:37 pm June 9, 2008 Monday Mesa Fire Paramedics called the time of death 2237 hrs./10:37pm. (Flores Page 3)
11:12 pm June 9, 2008 Monday Detective Flores asked to respond to 11428, E. Queensborough Ave in Mesa. (Flores Page 3)
11:50 pm June 9, 2008 Monday Detective Flores arrived at Travis’ home at 2350 hrs.11:50 pm. (Flores Page 3)
? June 9, 2008 Monday Marie Hall told Detective Flores that she and Travis was supposed to leave on a business trip to Cancun, Mexico on June 10th at 0925hrs./9:25 am. Marie Hall said the last time she spoke to Travis was on Monday, June 2nd and she didn’t see him at Church on Sunday, June 8th. (Flores Pages 3-4)
12:54 am June 10, 2008 Tuesday At 0054 hrs./12:54am after midnight/early Tuesday morning hours. Detective B. Cooper, Sergeant D. McBride, Commander V. Myers and Detective Flores entered the home through the front door, and there was s STRONG ODOR associated with a decomposing body ALL OVER THE HOME. The odor was evident as soon as we entered the front door. (Flores Page 3)
? June 12, 2008 Thurs Detective Flores conducted a telephonic interview with Chris Hughes who was Travis’ closest friend and business partner. Chris Hughes had been scheduled meet in Cancun, Mexico on 6-10-2008 for a Prepaid Legal paid seminar/vacation. NOTE: there were many people going on this trip not just two. (Flores Page 13)
That is Detective Flores story,
I found this interesting I hope you all do as well.
 
I was under the impression that the separate bedrooms were after she told him she was through with him?

I hope that wasn't the case while they lived together for 4 yrs.!:what:

I can't remember whether it was DB's own testimony that revealed that or not, but am pretty sure that's what the arrangements were because when I first heard it I though WOAH that's interesting......and fishy......:floorlaugh:
 
I was under the impression that the separate bedrooms were after she told him she was through with him?

I hope that wasn't the case while they lived together for 4 yrs.!:what:

He said they shared a bedroom. The other room was because she owned alot off stuff.
 
He said they shared a bedroom. The other room was because she owned alot off stuff.

He probably lied or she did

She talked about going into her bedroom b/c they had separate rooms during the interrogation tape where she claims to have had a "nervous breakdown"
 
???

How do you know that, he hasn't even called him?

It's MOO - JM knows how JA manipulated her family and TA. My Opionion Only - This is why JM came out against her immediately talking down to her little sister.
 
I agree on that particular video and what the jurors may think...(She didn't claim crazy though, remember? Woo !!!!!).

She couldn't, she's not legally insane, she knows right from wrong
 
It's MOO - JM knows how JA manipulated her family and TA. My Opionion Only - This is why JM came out against her immediately talking down to her little sister.

He did that to piss her off, so the jury would see the real her.
 
It's MOO - JM knows how JA manipulated her family and TA. My Opionion Only - This is why JM came out against her immediately talking down to her little sister.

I don't think that's why he brought up the dumb sister comment, though.
 
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