LP Asks “Would the DNA from a child resulting from a union from Lee and Casey..

[Nedthan Johns]

http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4189759

news this morning


Added by Christine, this is what he said, let's keep the facts straight.

[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]“The Feds released information that the hair was either the mother’s or the daughter’s; they didn’t distinguish,” Padilla said. “Why would they not know whether it was the daughter or the mother? They didn’t say it was Caylee’s.”


[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Padilla said that officials ruled it was Caylee’s hair just by a process of elimination because the hair had a death ring around it and they know Casey is alive. The fact that the DNA is identical has something to do with who the father is, Padilla said.

[/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]“Would the DNA from a child resulting from a union from Lee and Casey have basically the same characteristics? Making the preliminary DNA check not definitive as to who the hair samples are from,” he said.
[/FONT]
[/FONT]

Boy I bet the Anthony's are GLAD this guy came along. I'm sorry but I was never on the Padilla team to begin with, all publicity. Not the sharpest tool in the shed either.

 

[racegirl72]

Sorry to quote myself, not sure what edit does. I should have said this is probably why LE won't or can't say for sure if the hair was Caylee's or Casey's.

Well, if the hair shows up to be that of someone deceased, then they know it's NOT Casey's

 

[TGIRecovered]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemont
I haven't read these many pages, but, isn't there already a DNA profile of Caylee? They know Jesse isn't the father (I'm assuming by DNA), so, why couldn't the profile that was done then be used now?

Good point Nemont!:doh: Why didn't I think of that?

When they had the test done to see if Jesse was the father, I'm assuming they would have only received confirmation that his DNA was not a match for Caylee. I highly doubt that they would have been given further info about the likelihood Caylee being the child of siblings, so probably no one was certain at that time who the real dad was.

LE would have access to Caylee's DNA from that test, and could have had it further analyzed by FBI.

I wonder...the lawyer that Cindy and George went to see on Tuesday said that they did not discuss Casey's legal situation, but did discuss questions they had pertaining to Caylee. Food for thought.

Susan

Did everyone miss Nemont's post about Caylee's DNA profile already being available? The paternity test was done to prove if Jesse was the father. They would not need any additional DNA from the trunk or the hair to raise the possibility of Lee or George as the father, because they already have Caylee's DNA profile.

 

[Jolynna]

Respectfully snipped...

That said, I think it is irresponsible of JP to make such a statement knowing it would cause a stir...

I don't like it because if not true, it plants ugly seeds.

If it isn't true and if Lee is just a concerned brother and loving uncle, I think he's going through enough.

IMO

 

[Waddles]

Reannan, thank you so much for this explanation. I'm sorry to take up space with off-topic posts, but I'm kind of new here and I'm not sure how to PM you. My father was killed in a plane crash in WWII when my mother was still pregnant with me. A few years ago, I had my DNA done (cheek swab). It showed 84% European, 13% Native American, 3% Subsaharan African. My question is this: I know my father was 1/4 Native American, so obviously his DNA was showing up in this test, right? My mother had no NA blood that she is aware of.

that's really interesting, how many generations back is 3% I wonder. I read somewhere that if both your parents were say European 100% the 3% could be "statistical noise" but you being 13% something else means then other 3% is definitely accurate, let me know what you find out! Over and out with the off topic

 

[CheckDaFacts]

Three words come to mind. Silver Creek Entertainment, follow the money.

 

[Blackwatch]

Good point Nemont!:doh: Why didn't I think of that?

When they had the test done to see if Jesse was the father, I'm assuming they would have only received confirmation that his DNA was not a match for Caylee. I highly doubt that they would have been given further info about the likelihood Caylee being the child of siblings, so probably no one was certain at that time who the real dad was.

LE would have access to Caylee's DNA from that test, and could have had it further analyzed by FBI.

I wonder...the lawyer that Cindy and George went to see on Tuesday said that they did not discuss Casey's legal situation, but did discuss questions they had pertaining to Caylee. Food for thought.Susan

Definitely food for thought. I have a case like this in my own family. Seems a DNA test was done on a child without the parent's permission and the results weren't so good. The parents went to see a lawyer and were told it is a federal offense for anyone to invade the privacy of a minor. Perhaps LE can do it legally, I don't know.

 

[Cagney]

I haven't read these many pages, but, isn't there already a DNA profile of Caylee? They know Jesse isn't the father (I'm assuming by DNA), so, why couldn't the profile that was done then be used now?

Excellent point!!!

 

[LaLaw2000]

http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4189759

news this morning


Added by Christine, this is what he said, let's keep the facts straight.

[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]“The Feds released information that the hair was either the mother’s or the daughter’s; they didn’t distinguish,” Padilla said. “Why would they not know whether it was the daughter or the mother? They didn’t say it was Caylee’s.”


[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Padilla said that officials ruled it was Caylee’s hair just by a process of elimination because the hair had a death ring around it and they know Casey is alive. The fact that the DNA is identical has something to do with who the father is, Padilla said.

[/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]“Would the DNA from a child resulting from a union from Lee and Casey have basically the same characteristics? Making the preliminary DNA check not definitive as to who the hair samples are from,” he said.
[/FONT]
[/FONT]

OMG!!!

Surely not! I have gotten to the point where I just detest this entire family! After this, nothing would surprise me!

 

[rlms56]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemont
I haven't read these many pages, but, isn't there already a DNA profile of Caylee? They know Jesse isn't the father (I'm assuming by DNA), so, why couldn't the profile that was done then be used now?



Did everyone miss Nemont's post about Caylee's DNA profile already being available? The paternity test was done to prove if Jesse was the father. They would not need any additional DNA from the trunk or the hair to raise the possibility of Lee as the father, because they already have Caylee's DNA profile.

Correct that is why I give some credence to what LP said about DNA results given to Casey, Cindy and Lee last Wednesday. LE knows if George or Lee is the father and the fact that George was omitted from LP's comment leads me to believe he is not the father. I posted earlier that what I have seen from George, he has a terrible temper and would have done something drastic if he knew Lee was the father.

 

[karenmamo]

Boy I bet the Anthony's are GLAD this guy came along. I'm sorry but I was never on the Padilla team to begin with, all publicity. Not the sharpest tool in the shed either.

Thinking the way the parents treated HIM, he doesn't give a R__z Azz what he says now.

 

[treeseeker]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemont
I haven't read these many pages, but, isn't there already a DNA profile of Caylee? They know Jesse isn't the father (I'm assuming by DNA), so, why couldn't the profile that was done then be used now?




Did everyone miss Nemont's post about Caylee's DNA profile already being available? The paternity test was done to prove if Jesse was the father. They would not need any additional DNA from the trunk or the hair to raise the possibility of Lee or George as the father, because they already have Caylee's DNA profile.

I think the trunk DNA may have been too degraded to get a full profile. This could be why LE hasn't stated the stain came from Caylee. All they could say was there was a deceased human in the trunk.

For info:
http://www.dna.gov/basics/analysis/mitochondrial

 

[karenmamo]

Correct that is why I give some credence to what LP said about DNA results given to Casey, Cindy and Lee last Wednesday. LE knows if George or Lee is the father and the fact that George was omitted from LP's comment leads me to believe he is not the father. I posted earlier that what I have seen from George, he has a terrible temper and would have done something drastic if he knew Lee was the father.

But maybe George just goes along....goes along....whatever Cindy tells him is what he thinks. That could be a secret between Lee, Cindy and Casey.

 

[Lexington]

When I got up this morning and poured me a cup of coffee, I had no idea I was going to need a Bloody Mary instead.....

SuziQ - you're hysterically funny.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemont
I haven't read these many pages, but, isn't there already a DNA profile of Caylee? They know Jesse isn't the father (I'm assuming by DNA), so, why couldn't the profile that was done then be used now?




Did everyone miss Nemont's post about Caylee's DNA profile already being available? The paternity test was done to prove if Jesse was the father. They would not need any additional DNA from the trunk or the hair to raise the possibility of Lee or George as the father, because they already have Caylee's DNA profile.

AND didn't Jesse's Dad say that everything would be 'brought to light'? Now I do wonder just exactly what he meant!

 

[Theonly1]

Here is a quick and dirty explanation of DNA and Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA). Imagine in your mind a chicken egg – it has a yellow yolk and the clear white viscous albumin surrounding the yolk, and then there is the eggshell. Keep this image in mind for the future discussion. For human cells, the terms will be compared to the chicken egg like this: a) Chicken eggshell = human cell membrane – they serve the same purpose in both examples, i.e. the membrane (eggshell) holds the cell together. B) Chicken egg albumin = human cell cytoplasm. C) Chicken egg yolk = human cell nucleus. Here is what happens when a male sperm fertilizes an egg (ovum) from a woman. The fertilized egg at that point will have the male sperm DNA in the nucleus (egg yolk for the chicken egg analogy). The ONLY place in the cell that the father’s DNA can be found is in the nucleus. The Mother’s DNA will be in BOTH the nucleus AND the cytoplasm. The DNA in the cytoplasm is a special kind of DNA called Mitochondrial DNA that is ONLY found in the cytoplasm, and it is EXACTLY the same as the Mother’s DNA. Thus, Cindy’s mtDNA is the same as Casey’s mtDNA, and the same as Caylee’s mtDNA. The DNA in the nucleus of any cell from Caylee would be a blend of Casey and the father’s DNA. Mitochondrial DNA is what is being discussed by LE in this case because they obtained the mtDNA profile from the hair in the trunk. They cannot get a full DNA profile from hair because hair cells do not have a nucleus – thus they can only look for mtDNA – which means they can only determine the female lineage of the specimen being analyzed. Hope that helps.

Different "leaks" have mentioned scalp along with the hair. We sleuthers don't know if there was more than one hair, just one hair, a hair with a follicle, or a hair with a follice plus root and scalp. The lesser the sample the more chance they would be doing Mitochondrial DNA vs. the nuclear DNA (which they could obtain from skin), right?
T

 

[CheckDaFacts]

LE is not going to provide full details nor are they required to on the stain, etc. Breaking this down any further is not going to happen, until their good and ready. This is a full blown investigation being held close to the chest.

 

[PoppyMcTwist]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemont
I haven't read these many pages, but, isn't there already a DNA profile of Caylee? They know Jesse isn't the father (I'm assuming by DNA), so, why couldn't the profile that was done then be used now?




Did everyone miss Nemont's post about Caylee's DNA profile already being available? The paternity test was done to prove if Jesse was the father. They would not need any additional DNA from the trunk or the hair to raise the possibility of Lee or George as the father, because they already have Caylee's DNA profile.

That's why I am wondering why we are concentrating so much on Mitochondrial DNA in regard to paternity . A full DNA profile has already been done on Caylee.


JMO

 

[Happy2bme]

Good Morning WS! Hope you don't mind me posting over here for a bit. We were discussing this "who's the daddy" bit over at Insessions and the board closed.

 

[GizzySmith]

When I got up this morning and poured me a cup of coffee, I had no idea I was going to need a Bloody Mary instead.....

So well said