Dr. Pennypacker
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Well if that's true then they can get a complete DNA from scalp tissue.
uh-oh!
good point
Well if that's true then they can get a complete DNA from scalp tissue.
Here is a quick and dirty explanation of DNA and Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA). Imagine in your mind a chicken egg it has a yellow yolk and the clear white viscous albumin surrounding the yolk, and then there is the eggshell. Keep this image in mind for the future discussion. For human cells, the terms will be compared to the chicken egg like this: a) Chicken eggshell = human cell membrane they serve the same purpose in both examples, i.e. the membrane (eggshell) holds the cell together. B) Chicken egg albumin = human cell cytoplasm. C) Chicken egg yolk = human cell nucleus. Here is what happens when a male sperm fertilizes an egg (ovum) from a woman. The fertilized egg at that point will have the male sperm DNA in the nucleus (egg yolk for the chicken egg analogy). The ONLY place in the cell that the fathers DNA can be found is in the nucleus. The Mothers DNA will be in BOTH the nucleus AND the cytoplasm. The DNA in the cytoplasm is a special kind of DNA called Mitochondrial DNA that is ONLY found in the cytoplasm, and it is EXACTLY the same as the Mothers DNA. Thus, Cindys mtDNA is the same as Caseys mtDNA, and the same as Caylees mtDNA. The DNA in the nucleus of any cell from Caylee would be a blend of Casey and the fathers DNA. Mitochondrial DNA is what is being discussed by LE in this case because they obtained the mtDNA profile from the hair in the trunk. They cannot get a full DNA profile from hair because hair cells do not have a nucleus thus they can only look for mtDNA which means they can only determine the female lineage of the specimen being analyzed. Hope that helps.
Ha I don't think he is, she had no shortage of lovers at the time and she was 19 so if there was abuse or incest I highly doubt it went on at 19
Why would LP say that to the press? shocking! Unless he has other info we don't...
How about J.P.?
I guess I am a bit confused as to why we even care who the father is. Of course, the family dynamics is important to any case, but in this situation, we already know that the family is not the offspring of June and Ward Cleaver. Even if Caylee was a product of incest, I don't think anyone else in that family is responsible for what happened besides the primary suspect - Casey.
Hi everyone! This is my first actual post, however I've definitely been following just about every single thread on here (regarding Caylee's "disappearance). The fact that most of the posts on Websleuth's are fairly educated and all come from people that really care about missing children earns my highest respect. Having said that, here's my question: While I do not condone every single thing LP suggests, most of the time he's only stating what everybody else has already put into print. If it's not true what was only "inquired" about LA, then that poor man's life could get ruined via a smear campaign. I for one would not like to be part of that. I'll wait for official results where the paternity is concerned. With regards to LP implying that Tony might not be telling a "whole truth", could you please tell me why Tony picked up CMA and she had bags of groceries in her arms - yet she did not have her purse? Her purse was left on the front seat of the car. Something just doesn't fit. I'm not implying Tony is lying, something just doesn't add up. Also, after hearing about Chloroform last night, I beg to differ with what was reported (if only slightly). I went to Florida State University and learned alot about chemicals while going to school in the medical field. I'm no expert, and decided it wasn't for me after sitting in on my 2nd autopsy, but Chloroform actually can be derived from Chlorine mixing with water, alcohol, certain bodily proteins, etc. It can also be derived from dumpsters containing old protein & bacteria (waste, food, dead carcasses). The fairly high amount that was reported concerns me, but still makes me think about what LP said on NG last night. I'll go through and look at all the other threads again in a moment, so b/c I'm being lazy, think I should also add something else here. I have several friends that still live in Orange County, Fl. My family & I are moving back there (Kissimmee) in about 2 years, so I search demographics all the time. Drug arrests, organized sex, and pedophiles are in abundance right around that immediate area (that Part of Orlando). Without mentioning names, ALOT of CMA's new "friends" are known drug users & dealers, most casually use X and other forms of Meth, Cocaine, and smoke alot of Weed. No matter what anyone else thinks, I think it is highly probable that CMA could have been doing something like this. I think law enforcement is probably looking into the owner of a certain string of clubs, and if they're not - they should be. I remember when I use to live there (I went to FSU for 2 yrs but then transferred to Valencia Community for 6 months), there were 2 "high end" Society Girl Clubs. Oh, and something else - Without a doubt, and I do mean WITHOUT A DOUBT, a human decomposing body could NOT ever be confused with the smell of anything else in the world. It's a smell I hope nobody has to learn about b/c once you do, you honestly never forget it. It makes me sick just thinking about it. The first time it happened to me, I ate peanuts for almost 2 months. I tried packing Vick's under my nose just so I could smell something else...ewww! Again, just something to ponder
I guess I am a bit confused as to why we even care who the father is. Of course, the family dynamics is important to any case, but in this situation, we already know that the family is not the offspring of June and Ward Cleaver. Even if Caylee was a product of incest, I don't think anyone else in that family is responsible for what happened besides the primary suspect - Casey.
I guess I am a bit confused as to why we even care who the father is. Of course, the family dynamics is important to any case, but in this situation, we already know that the family is not the offspring of June and Ward Cleaver. Even if Caylee was a product of incest, I don't think anyone else in that family is responsible for what happened besides the primary suspect - Casey.
Ha I don't think he is, she had no shortage of lovers at the time and she was 19 so if there was abuse or incest I highly doubt it went on at 19
Why would LP say that to the press? shocking! Unless he has other info we don't...
I haven't read these many pages, but, isn't there already a DNA profile of Caylee? They know Jesse isn't the father (I'm assuming by DNA), so, why couldn't the profile that was done then be used now?
I worked for years in a District Attorney's Office as a Victims Advocate.
I assure you if Caylee's father is Lee or George it would be FAR more common than the average person would suspect.
And I do not mean from just uneducated, low class type people. From ALL walks of life.
These family secrets would come out in the course of an investigation having nothing to do with paternity.
Exactly what is happening now with Caylee's disapperance.
Lots of panic to keep things out of the media in that family. More important to them than finding Caylee's body.
Cindy and George are trying to salvage what is left of ther family.
Lp should not be talking about things he does not know about especially DNA. can he just go home already, why is he stillt alking to the media?
Here is a quick and dirty explanation of DNA and Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA). Imagine in your mind a chicken egg it has a yellow yolk and the clear white viscous albumin surrounding the yolk, and then there is the eggshell. Keep this image in mind for the future discussion. For human cells, the terms will be compared to the chicken egg like this: a) Chicken eggshell = human cell membrane they serve the same purpose in both examples, i.e. the membrane (eggshell) holds the cell together. B) Chicken egg albumin = human cell cytoplasm. C) Chicken egg yolk = human cell nucleus. Here is what happens when a male sperm fertilizes an egg (ovum) from a woman. The fertilized egg at that point will have the male sperm DNA in the nucleus (egg yolk for the chicken egg analogy). The ONLY place in the cell that the fathers DNA can be found is in the nucleus. The Mothers DNA will be in BOTH the nucleus AND the cytoplasm. The DNA in the cytoplasm is a special kind of DNA called Mitochondrial DNA that is ONLY found in the cytoplasm, and it is EXACTLY the same as the Mothers DNA. Thus, Cindys mtDNA is the same as Caseys mtDNA, and the same as Caylees mtDNA. The DNA in the nucleus of any cell from Caylee would be a blend of Casey and the fathers DNA. Mitochondrial DNA is what is being discussed by LE in this case because they obtained the mtDNA profile from the hair in the trunk. They cannot get a full DNA profile from hair because hair cells do not have a nucleus thus they can only look for mtDNA which means they can only determine the female lineage of the specimen being analyzed. Hope that helps.
I guess I am a bit confused as to why we even care who the father is. Of course, the family dynamics is important to any case, but in this situation, we already know that the family is not the offspring of June and Ward Cleaver. Even if Caylee was a product of incest, I don't think anyone else in that family is responsible for what happened besides the primary suspect - Casey.