GUILTY MA - Colleen Ritzer, 24, brutally murdered, Danvers, 22 Oct 2013 #2

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jacct said:
Dr. Hebben said she had to sign a non-disclosure agreement in order to use the tests so I assume whoever sent them to the defense had to do the same. So the person in trouble is the person that sent them, not the defense. And I'm sure that's not something Judge Lowy wants to get into on the last day of the trial.

If the defense had disclosed everything they had and wanted to use for evidence at the beginning of the trial this would have been addressed then and it wouldn't be an issue now.
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BBM. Yes, this is exactly the reason that the discovery process is laid out as it is. Both sides are supposed to have everything that is going to come out at trial. There can be exceptions for things that come up during it, of course, but anything that could foreseeably be used must be disclosed ahead of time. This allows the court to schedule things like a motions hearing to argue out these procedural issues. The intent is that once a case gets to trial, things should be able to run smoothly with few surprises.

It's normal to have a Daubert challenge here and there where the jury has to leave the room while a proper foundation is laid to certify someone as an expert. When there is a case with a lot of medical experts, that can slow things down. But the amount of withholding the defense has done isn't normal. They could have easily brought up much of this ahead of time, and had filed motions/held oral arguments before the judge on these matters to figure out what was out vs. what was in. That's very common.

I know I'm not verified here at at WS, so you can take what I say with a grain of salt, but I spent four years doing criminal defense litigation and I am very, very surprised by how the defense has conducted themselves in this case. :twocents:
 
@AnaTeresa, what would be the advantage to the defense of slowing proceedings down?
 
I suppose a possible advantage to slowing things down would be jurors losing interest, but that's a gamble, as you don't know if they've also just come to the conclusion that he's guilty.

The defense isn't trying to slow things down - it's a side effect of what they are pursuing. They are trying to blindside the prosecution. They want to get experts and evidence in which would likely otherwise not be permitted. They want to prevent the prosecution from presenting other evidence which would harm their case. They also want to hamstring the prosecution by not giving them adequate time to prepare cross-examination by not disclosing all experts and evidence at the proper time.
 
Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 7m7 minutes ago Media is expected to be barred from courtroom this am for some testimony, per judge's order

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 5m5 minutes ago
#PhilipChism mom and Ritzer parents both in court, waiting for Judge David Lowy to take bench

Ethan Hartley ‏@Ehartley_DH_BC 3m3 minutes ago Salem, MA
#PhilipChism trial about to be back in session. Going to have to hammer out open/closed court issue today then maybe closing arguments

I don't think they have completed the jury instructions or the actual charges that will be given to the jury. Those will need to be worked out as well. I thought they would do that yesterday afternoon. I don't see how they can do closing arguments today without getting the charges and instructions completed.
 
Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 52s52 seconds ago Judge on the bench. #PhilipChism seated, staring straight ahead.

Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 1m1 minute ago
Judge about to rule on public access to #PhilipChism trial

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 58s58 seconds ago
Judge Lowy will close the courtroom when defense asks Dr. Hebben about SIRS and MFast test questions.

Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 1m1 minute ago
At issue 1st and 6th amendment rights. Defense wants to ask q's that would reveal secret mental health test questions

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 2m2 minutes ago
Judge Lowy is telling us revealing the questions that were put to #PhilipChism could compromise mental health of other in USA.

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
Lowy said he will impound the trial record of those questions, and media can req hearing to open the records later.

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 1m1 minute ago
No one will be permitted inside courtroom while neuropsych. Nancy Hebben is questioned by defense about questions posed to #PhilipChism

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
Closing Statements could come Friday, followed by jury deliberation. DA expected to call one more rebuttal witness

Livestream just came up.
 
Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 41s41 seconds ago #PhilipChism has waived his 6th ammendment right to an open courtroom during this portion of the testimony. Lawyers are at sidebar now

Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 48s49 seconds ago
Jury being brought in. Then questioning of neuropsych continues. At some point judge will clear courtroom.

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 36s36 seconds ago
Judge Lowy is now informing jury about the closing of the courtroom

I like that the judge gave an explanation to the jury about the courtroom being closed later this morning. Keeps them from wondering what is going on.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Morning recess will be at 1045 am. Hebben called back to stand

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 2m2 minutes ago
Neuropsychologist Nancy Hebben is returning to the witness stand.

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 56s57 seconds ago
Denise Regan begins questioning Hebben. She asks about M-FAST test for #PhilipChism. There are 25 questions, all yes/no correct?

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 44s45 seconds ago
Answers to MFAST questions can be Yes/No, True/False, Sometimes/Always/Never, says Hebben.

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 59s59 seconds ago
The personality test administered to #PhilipChism has more than 400 questions that are answered True/False, Hebben says.

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 1m1 minute ago
Another test has true/false questions or graded responses like "never, sometimes, always" etc

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 59s60 seconds ago
Dr. Hebben: is asked about the manual for the Miller test

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Regan shows Hebben a manual

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 1m1 minute ago
Regan turns her questioning to Hebben the manual for the M-FAST test, which looks for malingering.

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 2m2 minutes ago
Regan: Manual says not valid for children under 18Dr. Hebben: it does, yes.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Regan reading a portion of psych test manual. Hebben says she's reading it incorrectly..that is does mention adolescents

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Regan apologizes for the error

Ethan Hartley ‏@Ehartley_DH_BC 2m2 minutes ago Salem, MA
Regan continuing strategy from yesterday: pointing out 18+ age recommendation for 1 test, bringing up how many ?s #PhilipChism had to answer

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 2m2 minutes ago
Regan signals that her questions will now turn the content of the test materials. Lowy says he is closing the courtroom.

Cathy ‏@courtchatter 2m2 minutes ago
#PhilipChism - I should clarify, clerk, stenographer, etc... still in courtroom as well. All public and media sent out.

Regan said her questioning should only be 3-4 minutes.
 
allison manningVerified account ‏@allymanning 44s44 seconds ago We're back in. That was about 15 minutes

allison manningVerified account ‏@allymanning 46s47 seconds ago
First Q from Regan: Do severely mentally ill people have ringing in their ears when under stress? Hebbon: no opinion on that

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 31s31 seconds ago
Regan asking Hebben about her conclusion #PhilipChism was "feigning" mental illness based on MMPI-A

Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 51s51 seconds ago
Def getting into technical scores on personality test that neuropsych indicates consistent w/feigned mental disorder.
 
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 58s59 seconds ago Regan: MMPI-A report said "He may be exaggerating his sysmptoms as a plea for help."

Ethan Hartley ‏@Ehartley_DH_BC 1m1 minute ago Salem, MA
Hebben's report from one test: #PhilipChism "endures a wide variety of extreme symptoms" that he may present as a "plea for help"

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
#PhilipChism acts out unpredictably, may act out at times. "You read that correctly," Hebben says

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
Regan: Report also says #PhilipChism may be delusional"

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
#PhilipChism "holds some unusual belief that suggest he might be disengaged from reality..delusional beliefs," Hebben wrote in report

Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 48s48 seconds ago
Report: the possibility of schizophrenia should be ruled out

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Regan readying from Hebben report, which notes #PhilipChism experiences bizarre thoughts

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
Regan: "A psychotic process should be considered," according to report on

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 1m1 minute ago
Hebben report: "This person is likely to be experiencing difficulty because of his poor impulse control."

allison manningVerified account ‏@allymanning 1m1 minute ago
Hebben report: #PhilipChism had high score on psychoticism scale (97%). Suggests he "often feels alienated," may have delusional beliefs.

Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis 49s50 seconds ago
But Hebben also allowed for the possibility of other explanations including exaggeration.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Defense attorney John Osler stays with #PhilipChism as other attorneys go to sidebar with judge. This happens frequently

Laura Crimaldi ‏@lauracrimaldi 2m2 minutes ago
Hebben report: #PhilipChism "apparently holds some unusual beliefs that suggest that he might be disengaged from reality"
 
Ethan Hartley ‏@Ehartley_DH_BC 2m2 minutes ago Salem, MA Hebben's report indicates that something is wrong with #PhilipChism but leaves open different possibilities. Rules out schizophrenia though

Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis
1m1 minute ago
Regan turns to the IQ tests taken by #PhilipChism

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Regan back questioning Hebben. Asking her about cognitive test #PhilipChism took in 2014-WISC4, all scores in normal range

allison manningVerified account ‏@allymanning 2m2 minutes ago
Talking about the two cognition tests #PhilipChism was given. One in March 2014 (scored avg, high avg) and June 2015 WESCLR (scored 1 percentile)

allison manningVerified account ‏@allymanning 2m2 minutes ago
Regan says she's done with cross. ADA MacDougall on redirect.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
ADA asking about specific testing she used to diagnosis. Notes Regan referred to some symptoms

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account ‏@Bward3 3m3 minutes ago
ADA: Five of seven tests showed evidence of malingering?Dr. Hebben: I would have to say four

allison manningVerified account ‏@allymanning 1m1 minute ago
The report Regan read from was a personality test. Doesn't test for malingering primarily, Hebben says

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Regan objects, says ADA is leading witnesses

Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 2m2 minutes ago
Dr says test flagged for 'intentional exaggeration'

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
ADA asking her about "psychotic process" note in her report. Hebben said her report also suggested #PhilipChism was faking

allison manningVerified account ‏@allymanning 2m2 minutes ago
Hebben says she couldn't trust #PhilipChism findings, because he was exaggerating psychopathology.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Specific testing for faking mental illness on #PhilipChism were both positive Hebben said

Laurel J. SweetVerified account ‏@Laurel_Sweet 2m2 minutes ago
#PhilipChism was flagged on his test results for "intentional exaggeration of psycho pathology" and "excessive negativity."

allison manningVerified account ‏@allymanning 2m2 minutes ago
Re: that ringing in ears question. Hebben said in questioning, they'll suggest it as a symptom of severely mentally ill people.

Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 2m2 minutes ago
Dr: they will suggest a symptom of mental illness to see if patient then suddenly develops said symptom. Says #PhilipChism did this.

Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis 1m1 minute ago
On re-direct Hebben is asked if when she suggested a fake symptom - ringing ears - #PhilipChism told her he had that. Defense objects.

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Sidebar now bc of Hebben response to ringing in ears question by ADA

This must have been one of the "silly" questions Regan wanted to ask about. Be sure you know the answer before you ask the question, lol.

Julie Manganis ‏@SNJulieManganis 3m3 minutes ago
On re-direct Hebben is asked if when she suggested a fake symptom - ringing ears - #PhilipChism told her he had that

allison manningVerified account ‏@allymanning 2m2 minutes ago
ADA asking again about intelligence tests. Does it make sense for someone to go from average to 1st percentile?

Jill Harmacinski ‏@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Tests are highly correlated, Hebben

Victoria WarrenVerified account ‏@vwarrenon7 1m1 minute ago
Dr: vast difference in #PhilipChism 2 iq tests should not happen. (1 average, 1 <1%) Only explanation someone purposely feigning.

allison manningVerified account &#8207;@allymanning 2m2 minutes ago
"It doesn't make sense at all." Only explanation? Person feigning that they were unable to do cognitive tests

Julie Manganis &#8207;@SNJulieManganis 1m1 minute ago
The drop in IQ "does not make any sense at all" absent a major head injury. Or feigning.

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Such a low a score would put person as mentally retarded Hebben says

allison manningVerified account &#8207;@allymanning 1m1 minute ago
ADA is done. Regan up again. You weren't there for the test. You aren't sure if #PhilipChism just didn't want to take the test, was sick. Hebbon: well, that would be feigning

Victoria WarrenVerified account &#8207;@vwarrenon7 1m1 minute ago
Dr Hebben done.. Now on to the star rebuttal witness (and final witness in case) for prosecution.
 
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 1m1 minute ago Dr. Robert Kinscherff of William James College is next rebuttal witness for Commonwealth

allison manningVerified account &#8207;@allymanning 1m1 minute ago
Hebben takes a seat in the gallery to watch Kinscherff testify

Laura Crimaldi &#8207;@lauracrimaldi 1m1 minute ago
He works at William James College, a psychology graduate school.

Laura Crimaldi &#8207;@lauracrimaldi 1m1 minute ago
Kinscherff is a clinical psychologist and has a law degree.

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Kinscherff is also a professor at William James college

Julie Manganis &#8207;@SNJulieManganis 34s34 seconds ago
Kinscherff is both an psychologist and a graduate of Harvard Law. He's worked in juvenile court clinic and DMH.

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Kinscherff was also involved in a juvenile court clinic, his list of credentials, experience is lengthy

allison manningVerified account &#8207;@allymanning 1m1 minute ago
Kinscherff worked in juvenile court clinic for a long time. Has done many court-ordered evals (not for defense or prosecution)
 
AnaTeresa said:
I suppose a possible advantage to slowing things down would be jurors losing interest, but that's a gamble, as you don't know if they've also just come to the conclusion that he's guilty.

The defense isn't trying to slow things down - it's a side effect of what they are pursuing. They are trying to blindside the prosecution. They want to get experts and evidence in which would likely otherwise not be permitted. They want to prevent the prosecution from presenting other evidence which would harm their case. They also want to hamstring the prosecution by not giving them adequate time to prepare cross-examination by not disclosing all experts and evidence at the proper time.
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My sense -- based on nothing but my intuitions about human nature and my experiences in business negotiations -- is that the defense was hoping to sneak some things in at the last minute precisely because they felt that they had the leverage to do so since the judge and ADA wouldn't want to risk derailing the trial for too long at the 11th hour. Seems to me as if the defense was counting on the judge giving them lots of leeway so as not to leave even a hint of a whisper of 'unfair trial' to avoid being reversed down the road, and that the prosecution could do nothing but complain. I hope that these things can come back to bite them in future trials. Unfair dealing may be a reasonable strategy in a one-off situation, but when a relationship is not strictly transactional, over time, it hurts more than it helps. That's why I always, always negotiate fairly and with integrity, no matter what the other party is doing. :moo:
 
Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago Kinscherff still detailing his creds, he also does writing and research

Ethan Hartley &#8207;@Ehartley_DH_BC 2m2 minutes ago Salem, MA
Kinscherff has long career in juvenile courts. Majority of the time he's asked by judges to perform objective forensic evaluations

Laurel J. SweetVerified account &#8207;@Laurel_Sweet 42s42 seconds ago
Trial trivia: Kinscherff is a prestigious fellow of the American Psychological Association

Julie Manganis &#8207;@SNJulieManganis 58s59 seconds ago
Kinscherff says he's more often testified for defense - at request of public defenders office, which represents #PhilipChism

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
He has worked with teens experiencing psychosis

Laura Crimaldi &#8207;@lauracrimaldi 2m2 minutes ago
Kinscherff says he's worked with children who have been "profoundly impaired" by psychotic disorders

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 49s50 seconds ago
If he encountered such a child with psychosis at 10yo, he would seek meds, psychological tests, work with parents

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Kinscherff: Child w/ severe psychosis would be evident to caregiver

Ethan Hartley &#8207;@Ehartley_DH_BC 1m1 minute ago Salem, MA
Kinscherff testifies psychosis in children is uncommon and that parents would notice symptoms of truly psychotic child

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Kinscherff: There would be withdrawal. Might be chalked up to stress or worries at first.
 
jacct said:
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 58s59 seconds ago Regan: MMPI-A report said "He may be exaggerating his sysmptoms as a plea for help."

Ethan Hartley &#8207;@Ehartley_DH_BC 1m1 minute ago Salem, MA
Hebben's report from one test: #PhilipChism "endures a wide variety of extreme symptoms" that he may present as a "plea for help"

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
#PhilipChism acts out unpredictably, may act out at times. "You read that correctly," Hebben says

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
Regan: Report also says #PhilipChism may be delusional"

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
#PhilipChism "holds some unusual belief that suggest he might be disengaged from reality..delusional beliefs," Hebben wrote in report

Victoria WarrenVerified account &#8207;@vwarrenon7 48s48 seconds ago
Report: the possibility of schizophrenia should be ruled out

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Regan readying from Hebben report, which notes #PhilipChism experiences bizarre thoughts

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
Regan: "A psychotic process should be considered," according to report on

Laura Crimaldi &#8207;@lauracrimaldi 1m1 minute ago
Hebben report: "This person is likely to be experiencing difficulty because of his poor impulse control."

allison manningVerified account &#8207;@allymanning 1m1 minute ago
Hebben report: #PhilipChism had high score on psychoticism scale (97%). Suggests he "often feels alienated," may have delusional beliefs.

Julie Manganis &#8207;@SNJulieManganis 49s50 seconds ago
But Hebben also allowed for the possibility of other explanations including exaggeration.

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Defense attorney John Osler stays with #PhilipChism as other attorneys go to sidebar with judge. This happens frequently

Laura Crimaldi &#8207;@lauracrimaldi 2m2 minutes ago
Hebben report: #PhilipChism "apparently holds some unusual beliefs that suggest that he might be disengaged from reality"
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Sitting here it reads like she's grasping at straws. I hope that's how it comes across the jury.
 
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 2m2 minutes ago Dr. Kinscherff: Child used to have friends, withdraws, loses interest in activities, grades will suffer

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Psychotic child might withdraw, lose interest, talk about unusual experiences, auditory and visual hallucinations

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Child will show a cluster of impairments and systems, oddities of thought they may not share with others he says

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Auditory and visual hallucinations, delusions, disorganized speech, incoherent, disorganized behavior, he continues

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Kinscherff: Late teens, early 20's, when adolescents develop full blown schizophrenia.

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
Dr. Kinscherff: In July 2015 was retained to do forensic evaluation of #PhilipChism

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 43s43 seconds ago
Tried to get as much details as he could, developmental history, interest and activities, prior difficulties, he said

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 53s53 seconds ago
He also interacts with person he's interviewing, tries to understand him first as a young person

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 41s41 seconds ago
Would also ask subject his or her account of a crime when he evaluates them

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 52s53 seconds ago
Dr. Kinscherff: I like to make findings of subject up to the date of the offense.

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 56s56 seconds ago
Dr. Kinscherff: Im trying to put together pieces of puzzle. Also look at crime itself.
 
allison manningVerified account &#8207;@allymanning 1m1 minute ago K: is careful of hindsight bias. He'll create comprehensive picture of person's functioning up to the date of the offense.

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Kinscherff: was trying to determine criminal responsibility of #PhilipChism

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
He intervened #PhilipChism for total 13 hours, reviewed Hebben and Casey psych reports, defense reports, family reports #

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 51s51 seconds ago
He also saw crime scene photos, police reports, videos, other reports, walked through Danvers High to put scene in his head

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
Dr. Kinscherff: Looked at #PhilipChism items in his backpack, the boxcutter, clothing, his homework.

allison manningVerified account &#8207;@allymanning 54s54 seconds ago
Kinscherff also reviewed defense experts' reports but he didn't have those before he wrote his report.

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 55s56 seconds ago
Kinscherff on #PhilipChism legal responsibility, could he appreciate wrongfulness of his act

Laura Crimaldi &#8207;@lauracrimaldi 39s39 seconds ago
Kinscherff: "My opinion is that on the date of alleged offense Mr. chism was not suffering from a mental disease or defect."

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 47s48 seconds ago
Dr. Kinscherff: Although #PhilipChism showing sign of stress, it did not impair his judgement of right and wrong.

allison manningVerified account &#8207;@allymanning 50s50 seconds ago
Kinscherff thinks that #PhilipChism was criminally responsible for the murder.

Rupa Shenoy &#8207;@RupaShenoy 56s57 seconds ago
Kinscherff says #PhilipChism had the ability to conform his actions to the law, and knew what he was doing was wrong.
 
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 1m1 minute ago Dr. Kinscherff #PhilipChism demeanor was reserved, at times, guarded, at times he terminated interviews w/me

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Other observations he made of #PhilipChism; he was reserved, guarded, terminated interviews rather than answer questions

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Kinscherff: There were times #PhilipChism was distracted, looking into space, but he was easily brought back

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 2m2 minutes ago
Also #PhilipChism seemed distracted, looked into space, was readily brought back, focused easily, thought process was not incoherent

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Kinscherff At no time was his ability to communicate impaired. #Fox25 #PhilipChism At times he was fairly animated.

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
Dr. Kinscherff: also looked at mental health records of #PhilipChism grandmother and aunt.

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 55s56 seconds ago
He viewed #PhilipChism family history of mental illness. They had schizo-effective disorder, he says

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 59s60 seconds ago
Dr. Kinscherff: Both #PhilipChism grandmother and aunt suffered schizo affective disorder. Not same as schizophrenia.
 
Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago He took the records into consideration, wanted to be as through as he could about emerging psychosis possibly

Jill Harmacinski &#8207;@EagleTribJill 1m1 minute ago
Asked Dr Kelly to do Roschak. "There was no indication of psychotic process." He relies on fantasy sometimes to cope. But he knows fantasy v. Reality

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
Dr. Kinscherff: Dr Casey found no psychotic disorder. Found fantasy life, but #PhilipChism knew diff between fantasy v reality.

allison manningVerified account &#8207;@allymanning 52s52 seconds ago
Reviewing the Hebben tests, which indicated malingering

Taking morning break, court will remain in session to address matters with the attorneys.
 
Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 50s51 seconds ago We are still in session. #PhilipChism is waiving his presence to charge conf. tomorrow morning. Judge Lowy is interviewing him now.

Julie Manganis &#8207;@SNJulieManganis 1m1 minute ago
The jury is taking morning break. #PhilipChism is waiving appearance at the conference on jury instructions.

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 55s56 seconds ago
Judge Lowy going over felony murder charge now with both sides. #PhilipChism is still here. He waived presence for Thurs.

Laura Crimaldi &#8207;@lauracrimaldi 29s30 seconds ago
Without the jury present, Judge Lowy is discussing the possibility of a felony murder charge for #PhilipChism

Bob Ward Fox25Verified account &#8207;@Bward3 1m1 minute ago
We are in recess until 11:15AM.
 
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