VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #15

[mzmarymac]

OK want till 4:15. So maybe they are close?

 

[Leilei]

Staying until 415 so I am thinking they are doing the verdict form now.

I'm thinking you're right.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Ugh. I have to go out now and they're continuing till 4:15.

 

[jepop]

For all the locals following here who know KR can't be guilty and have to live in proximity to these events of police corruption and incompetence and a questionable DA office: I'm really sorry the jury are currently hung. Trying to send my virtual support and sympathy through the ether. Even in the eventual event of a hung jury and mistrial good things to come. to with time.

 

[Aquarian]

Is Judge holding jury hostage?

Not that I can tell, they picked 4:15 lol

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

Ugh. I have to go out now and they're continuing till 4:15.

I hear ya. We've been having internet access issues for a week and of course today it went out just as it was being announced they said they couldn't come to an agreement!!

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Pretty sure this will end up hung.
also likely CW will re try her because stakes are so high with Fed investigation as well ongoing..
I can't believe it but I do.

And we get to do all this again?!

 

[TIGER0822]

Someone upthread alluded to one other possibility, that being if a mistrial is ultimately declared might the judge then dismiss the case ‘with prejudice’? MOO

Excerpt from this reference (which is NY state and not MA; could not find details for the latter and IANAL):

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Perhaps with due consideration of the presented evidence, testimony, and expert opinions the judge might review all and render such a determination? MOO

No way. That judge hates KR. No wY will she give her a chance to walk free.

 

[arielilane]

@KristinaRex

NEW: Jury in #KarenReadTrial has indicated they want to keep deliberating until 4:15 PM.


3:43 PM · Jun 28, 2024

 

[turaj]

I am really shocked at this hung jury....from my view point this is the most reasonable doubt I have ever seen in a case. But clearly some jurors don't see it.

 

[Derph]

Tick......tick.....tick..... Longest half hour ever!

 

[Trailbum74]

A little while ago, Law & Crime switched over to some coverage about the protest outside the courthouse.

While on the one hand, I empathize with the O’Keefe’s, on the other hand I can also empathize with the citizens of Canton.

I watched yet another select board meeting from this past week where the town’s citizens were once again blown off, ignored, or escorted out of the meeting by police for asking questions they have every right to ask. Many of the citizens who spoke in that meeting are lining the sidewalks outside the courthouse today. And they’re not just random people. They regularly attend the select board meetings and have a vested interest. One woman was still asking for answers for issues she’d raised over a year ago regarding school budget expenditures. She was brushed off.

These people live in Canton. They KNOW the key players. They know the social climate in town. One person spoke about their fear of speaking out against cronyism and corruption because they knew it would have a negative multi-generational effect on their family. That person was a third-generation “townie.”

While I think some people are simply out for some fun and raising cain, the vast majority appear to be using the trial to highlight what they live with and see on a daily basis.

One protestor today (she, too, spoke at the select board meeting earlier this week and was basically brushed off), said she was never a political person. She was never a protestor. But this case has brought the corruption to light that the town’s citizens have been forced to live with, and she just couldn’t take it anymore (paraphrasing) so she got up off her couch to do something about it.

I don’t condone the harassment of the O’Keefe’s or witnesses in any way.

But I do support people exercising their right to assemble in protest against injustice and corruption. **Especially when they are footing the bill for said injustice and corruption as taxpayers.**

 

[Colorado303]

UGH, it's not even 4:00pm. A typical work day is 8 hours long and runs 9-5-ish. I'm sure they're exhausted after 9, 10 weeks of this madness, but ... ??? What next, asking to go home at 1pm?

Asking to go home and never come back.

 

[LaineyJ]

I think juries are people just like us who are entirely different in that we’ve all had different education, life experiences, understandings etc so I think it’s really rude to say they’re ignoring rational things in this trial or whatever, insinuating that they can’t possibly grasp concepts that we have.

I think KR should be acquitted of all charges. But I refuse to look down on jurors who are holding onto their G vote, too. We have posters on here who also believe she should be found G; I wouldn’t want to insinuate that they, too, are … too dumb to understand this stuff or that they refuse to acknowledge what I believe makes sense.

Additionally I don’t think hold outs are on a power kick. Why is it so hard to believe they are just standing firm in their stance because it’s simply what they believe? This is why we have juries of our peers—because we get different types of people from age to gender to professions etc. Different opinions.

I think the CW fell extremely short in their duties here and Lally screwed up big time. I think the defense did a remarkable job not just with their case but also in cross examining of CW witnesses. I think the judge showed a little bit of bias at times, especially her attitude yesterday. So I am hoping that ultimately KR is acquitted of everything, too.

 

[arielilane]

iirc, either JMc or KerR shushed KR at the crime scene when hysterical (understandably) after finding JOK and saying "I hit him." iirc, they were acquaintances (?), they had something in common. Anyway, it wasn't until KR retained counsel that the verbiage "I hit him" changed. moo



“What I thought could have happened was, that did I incapacitate him, unwittingly, and somehow in his drunkenness he passed out?”

Video Accused slain cop's girlfriend maintains innocence

 

[themonk]

I am really shocked at this hung jury....from my view point this is the most reasonable doubt I have ever seen in a case. But clearly some jurors don't see it.

agree completely

starting to think we are living in some bizarro simulation world or something

eta: might have occasionally thought this before this trial as well

 

[kittythehare]

iirc, either JMc or KerR shushed KR at the crime scene when hysterical (understandably) after finding JOK. iirc, they were acquaintances (?), they had something in common. Anyway, it wasn't until KR retained counsel that the verbiage "I hit him" changed. moo



“What I thought could have happened was, that did I incapacitate him, unwittingly, and somehow in his drunkenness he passed out?”

Video Accused slain cop's girlfriend maintains innocence

Well J mc C thought she was bringing a jewel to the court when she testified, she had to be reminded..

 

[TTF14]

Sounds to me like they just want to go
Home at 4:15 and get their weekend on. I’ve never followed a trial with such shortened days.

 

[turaj]

Emily Baker popped on quickly today after that note and predicts they will send another one today. She thinks they are done done and so do it. I expect another deadlock note soon.

 

[mzmarymac]

Does anyone know any statistics of whether a deadlocked jury favors the prosecution or the defense?