VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #15

[TIGER0822]

My one main concern with a hung jury is that KR will not be able to afford to hire Attorneys for her defense if the case is retried. Still puzzled why the Defense want the hung jury. Playing reverse psycology with Cannone? Financial reasons? guessing the CW wont retry the case?

 

[Misy]

We don't know. She never asked.

Is it possible she knows but she didn’t divulge that detail in court? I would think that if it’s favoring a G verdict she wants them to continue. MOO

 

[arielilane]

@BienickWCVB

Judge reads note from jury: "Despite our exhaustive review of the evidence and our diligent consideration of all disputed evidence, we have been unable to reach a unanimous verdict."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1806726147478102028

 

[Kakidoll]

Is it usual for Mass for the Judge to assign the foreperson? This is the first time i've ever seen it, i think.

 

[kittythehare]

@BienickWCVB

Judge reads note from jury: "Despite our exhaustive review of the evidence and our diligent consideration of all disputed evidence, we have been unable to reach a unanimous verdict."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1806726147478102028

holdouts for sure..

 

[Curiousobserver]

My one main concern with a hung jury is that KR will not be able to afford to hire Attorneys for her defense if the case is retried. Still puzzled why the Defense want the hung jury. Playing reverse psycology with Cannone? Financial reasons? guessing the CW wont retry the case?

Interesting that is what they wanted. I think they get to see the split.

 

[TIGER0822]

Yes. I think the majority is NG. I also think the G jurors are dug in and indicating that nothing is going to change their minds.

Probably on a power-kick.

 

[arielilane]

#BREAKING: Jury note: Karen Read jury is deadlocked.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1806722245366104538

https://twitter.com/x/status/1806726835037737021

 

[kittythehare]

Does the Judge have any legal recourse to grant them something like a majority 10-2, for example?
Mass Law?

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Exactly- we have seen a huge amount of commentary and re-analysis of testimony.

Also, will they retry when the other shoe drops with Proctor/FBI investigations? Seems risky.

 

[jepop]

Geez

Is anyone surprised ?

Yes and no. I hoped all the jurors would be able to consider the actual evidence and use their reason. IMO this means at least one of them isn't doing that for whatever reasons (can think of many and is probably a mixed bag but will leave that in speculation land).

 

[TIGER0822]

This unaminous ruling has to change as a matter of law. It should be a 75% majority, except in cases where the defendant is facing a possible charge of execution.

 

[arielilane]

@SueNBCBoston


Judge decides they should continue to deliberate.
Jurors enter.
Judge tells them she knows how hard they’ve been working, tells them to continue to deliberate.


Two jurors vigorously nod affirmatively.
One of those jurors is someone who I thought might be at odds with the others.
Of course we don’t know what the split is.

Jurors’ collective mood, to me, did not seem down, or tired.

12:25 PM · Jun 28, 2024

 

[MysteryFanatic]

I called it IIRC at 13 hours deliberation that there is a hung jury. A hung jury is not good for either side, no matter how the defense and prosecution would spin it. I wonder if the jury is still hung and the judge calls it, if the prosecution would retry the case.

 

[arielilane]

@alcaprari23

BREAKING: Karen Read jury says they are unable to reach a unanimous verdict. Commonwealth wants them to continue and is making argument now. Defense believes it has been sufficient time. Judge hearing both sides.


12:11 PM · Jun 28, 2024

After hearing both arguments, the judge is sending the jury back in to continue deliberating. Some of these last 4 days of deliberations have been shortened; judge wants to see more from them before deciding they are hung.


12:15 PM · Jun 28, 2024

 

[TIGER0822]

I called it IIRC at 13 hours deliberation that there is a hung jury. A hung jury is not good for either side, no matter how the defense and prosecution would spin it. I wonder if the jury is still hung and the judge calls it, if the prosecution would retry the case.

The only people who should be tried is Proctor and his henchmen.

 

[arielilane]

Lally wants them to continue talking. "It is far, far, far too early in their deliberative process to even consider giving them any kind of Tuey-Rodriguez instruction or anything close to that."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1806728207795671165

Here's what Lally means when he says Tuey-Rodriguez instruction:
https://mass.gov/doc/2460-when-jurors-cannot-agree/download


12:37 PM · Jun 28, 2024

 

[MyJoey]

I believe it would be retried.

 

[Colorado303]

i agree with judge. don't understand defense. bet they just want out now before the lunch.

The defense didn’t say they wanted a hung jury. They wanted the Allen statement read to the jury whereas the prosecution wants to wait to even have that read. Judge agreed w/the prosecution and is holding the big gun back for later.

 

[jepop]

What on earth! Ugh.

Yea, have to admit I find it sickening, literately feeling this in stomach. Sad, angry, depressing, one of those moments where faith in humanity takes a knock for the worse. Echoes of Harper Lee's to Kill a Mocking Bird vis a vis prejudice in general. All MOO IMO JMO