MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #7

[nodamselindistress]

Thank you for posting this, I was trying to find his testimony. It wasn't cut and dried when they arrived at the scene at all.

It truly wasn't, they did not have much to go on at that point. No pieces of tail light were found until after 5pm that day, so they did not have that evidence at that point, either.

 

[HarmonyE.]

The CW played this:
You're aware he was beaten up by Brian and [his nephew] Colin Albert," Read said in the audio clip, the first time jurors have heard her voice during the trial. "I mean, we're all in on the same joke, right? My taillight is cracked and John was pulverized."

At that point, Bukhenik said he advised Read not to say anything further.

This was 6 months later. At that point she'd learned Colin was in the house that night. Something the cops never addressed. Trooper Buk probably didn't like hearing it out loud.

 

[shotgun09]

I can see how the story evolved from the testimonies given so far. From onset at scene, it was an undetermined physical altercation resulting in JOK cold and unconscious laying in the snow. They all saw his face, some may have seen his arm. But clearly, by 10:40 am (per YB's reluctant affirmation ) he did call the ME and he did state to her that it was from physical altercation/ .

What happened after that, to change the story to vehicular altercation?
Jen McCabe happened.....
The story morphed.
She had directly called LE to give 'more information', and the interview with the McCabe's , Brian Albert, Yuri and Proctor happened. Suddenly....we be movin' to get the vehicle...
And, we are here..

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

There is a very interesting quote without context, where KR said that Colin and (another cop) beat JO to a pulp, and my tail light was broken. That could mean anything with context, that she knew what happened and was involved. That she was involved, not involved, trying to figure out who broke her tail light. To get that quote in context would be a huge asset to one side. MOO

And following from this, now starting to wonder might there have been an altercation at the rear of the vehicle when he was supposedly dropped off? Was there a fight and someone had that glass in their hand? And what scenarios would have led to it being broken and the supposed glass shards (if matching the cocktail / bar glass) where they were found? And where is their placement and where located?

Someone posted a few days back up thread if there might have been a case where the glass was ‘whipped’ across the back of the vehicle? May be some merit to that. And IIUC the FBI or a report attributed to them indicated the injuries to the victim were not from having been struck by a vehicle?

How much force would it take to break that right rear taillight lens and housing? I am not sure…… but probably more than simply running into someone. Maybe it was compounded with some additional force from another incident or altercation? Or movement from other individuals? And there is still the supposed later strike with the vehicle when backing in close quarters near another parked stationary vehicle. MOO

 

[themonk]

I don't know the quote, but could she have been speculating based upon some things she knew at the time?

We haven't heard from Tom and Erin Beaty yet as they are defense witnesses, but we know Erin has said Colin called her for a ride from Fairview that night. She either declined or he found someone else. Erin reported this, possibly to a private investigator, and for her attempt to be helpful, she claims she was verbally bullied by Jen McCabe and a friend and told to keep her mouth shut. Erin is almost certainly how the defense even knew Colin was in the house that night, as no one else in the house that night ever mentioned him. We'll hear from the Beatys soon.

Karen knew Colin and about his not so good relationship with John. So the above sounds like her speculating and trying to find out what actually happened to John that night.

My opinion only, I'm just speculating myself.

RBBM

This absolutely bears repeating and bolding and emphasizing.

Why would no one at 34 Fairview mention Colin being in the house? How could there be an innocent explanation for not mentioning his presence? What, everyone just 'forgot'?

There is zero reason not to be honest about who was there.

What does that suggest?

I would love to hear from anyone who doesn't think this is suspicious.

 

[TIGER0822]

This was 6 months later. At that point she'd learned Colin was in the house that night. Something the cops never addressed. Trooper Buk probably didn't like hearing it out loud.

Wow! After listening to it I am convinced that this supports my theory KR was set up.

Karen Read During Arrest: 'We're All In On The Same Joke, Right?'

Video from police body camera shown during Karen Read's pre-trial hearing shows her talking about her cracked taillight.

www.courttv.com

 

[TIGER0822]

Why & how would police obtain a warrant for a house connected to a motor vehicle accident?

AN OBVIOUS MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT?

Between Karen’s admitted excited utterances, the witnesses that arrived on scene and physical evidence like shards of taillight & damage to her vehicle

There was literally ZERO EVIDENCE he was beaten or involved in a physical altercation

Typically, people that commit crimes like this HAVE REMORSE, don’t have FILTHY RICH attorneys willing & able to dazzle with this level of smoke & mirrors and bullpoop and PR team churning out propaganda. Most people have somewhat of a conscious and hope to take a plea.

Not Karen though.
Karen doesn’t care. Karen is about Karen 100% of the time.

It is a joke! The ME put some wording that 'the death was not caused by a fight' in the Death certificate. A 'not a cause of death' is never added to a death cert. That was written on request.\
Clip re: JO was beaten 'we are all in on the joke, rigth'...

Karen Read During Arrest: 'We're All In On The Same Joke, Right?'

Video from police body camera shown during Karen Read's pre-trial hearing shows her talking about her cracked taillight.

www.courttv.com

 

[TIGER0822]

It is a joke! The ME put some wording that 'the death was not caused by a fight' in the Death certificate. A 'not a cause of death' is never added to a death cert. That was written on request.\
Clip re: JO was beaten 'we are all in on the joke, rigth'...

Karen Read During Arrest: 'We're All In On The Same Joke, Right?'

Video from police body camera shown during Karen Read's pre-trial hearing shows her talking about her cracked taillight.

www.courttv.com

Ah.. but per the infamous Jen McCabe testimony John was there that night. Testified to such on the stand, oops! Personally I dont believe a word that comes out of Jen McCabes mouth, except that John was there.. MOO

"Colin wasn’t at the house when John was there. I drove him home so people are harassing him saying he was at the house. It’s not true,” McCabe testified, adding that the harassment was from bloggers and people online".

 

[nodamselindistress]

It was Jen's daughter Ali McCabe who drove Colin home.

 

[HarmonyE.]

Ah.. but per the infamous Jen McCabe testimony John was there that night. Testified to such on the stand, oops! Personally I dont believe a word that comes out of Jen McCabes mouth, except that John was there.. MOO

"Colin wasn’t at the house when John was there. I drove him home so people are harassing him saying he was at the house. It’s not true,” McCabe testified, adding that the harassment was from bloggers and people online".

I think that was Allie McCabe, the young woman who says Life360 got it all wrong?

 

[TTF14]

I think that was Allie McCabe, the young woman who says Life360 got it all wrong?

I really want to go watch her testimony again, now that we know her mother was Googling, "hos long to die in cold" precisely when she was driving Colin all around, according to Life360.

JMO MOO

 

[shotgun09]

AJ walking out from court yesterday was speaking with a throng of reporters. He stated that the video shown in court was not just inverted, it was manipulated. He stated that the time stamp ( barely visible to us) on the video has the numbers clearly shown normally, instead of inverted, like they should have been ( on an innocently inverted clip ) . He is clear that this manipulation was done purposely and not an accident.

It was meant to falsely lead the jury.

MOO

 

[HarmonyE.]

I really want to go watch her testimony again, now that we know her mother was Googling, "hos long to die in cold" precisely when she was driving Colin all around, according to Life360.

When you think of how often the police rely on phone calls, texts, apps, and Google searches to convict people, it's extraordinary how often these have failed with the users here.

Young Miss McCabe - Life360 data is totally wrong! We went straight to our homes that night.

Jen McCabe - I did not call JO's phone over and over again that night! Phone records are wrong! I wasn't looking for that phone after he was killed. Must have been repeated butt dials that never went to voice mail a single time.

Jen Again - I did not search "Hos long to die in cold" at 2:27 am. Your Cellebrite data is all wrong.

Jen Once Again - My sister did not answer my two phone calls that morning. Data is clearly wrong.

Nicole Albert - I don't care what my phone data says, I never answered those calls from my sister Jen McCabe that morning. Data failure! I was sound asleep when those police and ambulance and screaming woman were on the front lawn right under our bedroom. And I'm sure my husband will explain that the German Shepherd sleeps in the closet.

Brian Albert - No, I had no conversations with Brian Higgins at 2 am as reflected in both of our phone records. Must have been butt dialing and butt answering on both our parts. And we didn't have a 22 second conversation at the time either. Records are totally wrong here!

Brian Higgins - Agree with my pal, Brian. The calls and the conversation reflected in our phone records never happened. And you cannot have a conversation in 22 seconds. (Oh, wait, my attorney says he can have a 10 second convo with me about illegally using FBI resources?) And not saying for sure I did, but I could have destroyed my phone and SIM card in separate dumpsters at a military base on Cape Cod. Possibly.

Why are these people lying repeatedly and how can anyone believe they are innocent bystanders?

And why the hell did the Commonwealth bring this garbage case to a jury?

 

[TTF14]

When you think of how often the police rely on phone calls, texts, apps, and Google searches to convict people, it's extraordinary how often these have failed with the users here.

Young Miss McCabe - Life360 data is totally wrong! We went straight to our homes that night.

Jen McCabe - I did not call JO's phone over and over again that night! Phone records are wrong! I wasn't looking for that phone after he was killed. Must have been repeated butt dials that never went to voice mail a single time.

Jen Again - I did not search "Hos long to die in cold" at 2:27 am. Your Cellebrite data is all wrong.

Jen Once Again - My sister did not answer my two phone calls that morning. Data is clearly wrong.

Nicole Albert - I don't care what my phone data says, I never answered those calls from my sister Jen McCabe that morning. Data failure! I was sound asleep when those police and ambulance and screaming woman were on the front lawn right under our bedroom. And I'm sure my husband will explain that the German Shepherd sleeps in the closet.

Brian Albert - No, I had no conversations with Brian Higgins at 2 am as reflected in both of our phone records. Must have been butt dialing and butt answering on both our parts. And we didn't have a 22 second conversation at the time either. Records are totally wrong here!

Brian Higgins - Agree with my pal, Brian. The calls and the conversation reflected in our phone records never happened. And you cannot have a conversation in 22 seconds. (Oh, wait, my attorney says he can have a 10 second convo with me about illegally using FBI resources?) And not saying for sure I did, but I could have destroyed my phone and SIM card in separate dumpsters at a military base on Cape Cod. Possibly.

Why are these people lying repeatedly and how can anyone believe they are innocent bystanders?

And why the hell did the Commonwealth bring this garbage case to a jury?

I was just thinking the exact thing....thank you for writing it all out! All of these people possess a really unique skill of being able to not only butt dial and it never goes to voice mail, but their phones magically unlock as well. Jen McCabe, by her own testimony, seems to also be able to send texts while her phone is in her back pocket repeatedly butt dialing.

IMO MOO

 

[bobbymkii]

When you think of how often the police rely on phone calls, texts, apps, and Google searches to convict people, it's extraordinary how often these have failed with the users here.

Young Miss McCabe - Life360 data is totally wrong! We went straight to our homes that night.

Jen McCabe - I did not call JO's phone over and over again that night! Phone records are wrong! I wasn't looking for that phone after he was killed. Must have been repeated butt dials that never went to voice mail a single time.

Jen Again - I did not search "Hos long to die in cold" at 2:27 am. Your Cellebrite data is all wrong.

Jen Once Again - My sister did not answer my two phone calls that morning. Data is clearly wrong.

Nicole Albert - I don't care what my phone data says, I never answered those calls from my sister Jen McCabe that morning. Data failure! I was sound asleep when those police and ambulance and screaming woman were on the front lawn right under our bedroom. And I'm sure my husband will explain that the German Shepherd sleeps in the closet.

Brian Albert - No, I had no conversations with Brian Higgins at 2 am as reflected in both of our phone records. Must have been butt dialing and butt answering on both our parts. And we didn't have a 22 second conversation at the time either. Records are totally wrong here!

Brian Higgins - Agree with my pal, Brian. The calls and the conversation reflected in our phone records never happened. And you cannot have a conversation in 22 seconds. (Oh, wait, my attorney says he can have a 10 second convo with me about illegally using FBI resources?) And not saying for sure I did, but I could have destroyed my phone and SIM card in separate dumpsters at a military base on Cape Cod. Possibly.

Why are these people lying repeatedly and how can anyone believe they are innocent bystanders?

And why the hell did the Commonwealth bring this garbage case to a jury?

and yet they want us all to believe that the screenshots taken of text messages between CA and AMc, and between BH and KR are totally legit!

 

[Seattle1]

Is that from the partial recording they played in court where she said, "we're all in on the joke?" If so, I'd love to hear the words before and after the part they played.

IMO MOO

The full quote is taken from when KR was re-arrested following the grand jury indictment for 2nd degree murder, etc. Audio only linked below:

15K views · 73 reactions | "We're all in on the same joke, right?" Police bodycam appears to show Karen Read not believing she was just indicted on a murder charge for the death of Boston police officer John O'Keefe. | "We're all in on the same joke,

"We're all in on the same joke, right?" Police bodycam appears to show Karen Read not believing she was just indicted on a murder charge for the death of...

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[themonk]

When you think of how often the police rely on phone calls, texts, apps, and Google searches to convict people, it's extraordinary how often these have failed with the users here.

Young Miss McCabe - Life360 data is totally wrong! We went straight to our homes that night.

Jen McCabe - I did not call JO's phone over and over again that night! Phone records are wrong! I wasn't looking for that phone after he was killed. Must have been repeated butt dials that never went to voice mail a single time.

Jen Again - I did not search "Hos long to die in cold" at 2:27 am. Your Cellebrite data is all wrong.

Jen Once Again - My sister did not answer my two phone calls that morning. Data is clearly wrong.

Nicole Albert - I don't care what my phone data says, I never answered those calls from my sister Jen McCabe that morning. Data failure! I was sound asleep when those police and ambulance and screaming woman were on the front lawn right under our bedroom. And I'm sure my husband will explain that the German Shepherd sleeps in the closet.

Brian Albert - No, I had no conversations with Brian Higgins at 2 am as reflected in both of our phone records. Must have been butt dialing and butt answering on both our parts. And we didn't have a 22 second conversation at the time either. Records are totally wrong here!

Brian Higgins - Agree with my pal, Brian. The calls and the conversation reflected in our phone records never happened. And you cannot have a conversation in 22 seconds. (Oh, wait, my attorney says he can have a 10 second convo with me about illegally using FBI resources?) And not saying for sure I did, but I could have destroyed my phone and SIM card in separate dumpsters at a military base on Cape Cod. Possibly.

Why are these people lying repeatedly and how can anyone believe they are innocent bystanders?

And why the hell did the Commonwealth bring this garbage case to a jury?

this should be printed out and handed to the jurors

 

[HarmonyE.]

this should be printed out and handed to the jurors

Oh, AJ knows them better than we do. And I probably missed some. The jury will be much reminded during closing.

 

[TTF14]

The full quote is taken from when KR was re-arrested following the grand jury indictment for 2nd degree murder, etc. Audio only linked below:

15K views · 73 reactions | "We're all in on the same joke, right?" Police bodycam appears to show Karen Read not believing she was just indicted on a murder charge for the death of Boston police officer John O'Keefe. | "We're all in on the same joke,

"We're all in on the same joke, right?" Police bodycam appears to show Karen Read not believing she was just indicted on a murder charge for the death of...

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Thank you very much. Was the part about Colin and Brian played in court? It was so hard to hear.

 

[themonk]

Oh, AJ knows them better than we do. And I probably missed some. The jury will be much reminded during closing.

really remarkable when you see it all laid out like that

great post!