pavlovsdaughter
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Everyone likes to hate on defense lawyers until they find themselves in need of oneToo bad he burned that bridge with DY. He's a pretty good defense lawyer.
Everyone likes to hate on defense lawyers until they find themselves in need of oneToo bad he burned that bridge with DY. He's a pretty good defense lawyer.
Agree. She strikes me as being extremely intelligent about the law. I just wish they'd say what the objections (and her rulings) are about so we can learn too!
Everyone likes to hate on defense lawyers until they find themselves in need of oneCrazy thing is, I bet Yanetti would still pick up the phone if Proctor DID need a lawyer, because that’s what defense attorneys do.
Regarding MP text messages: It so funny how he’s wanting nudes, calls her all kinds of names, yet is interested in her? Did I understand all that? People like that can’t be understood other than they're insecure and immature? They are lost in the sauce and like to feel more superior than others? But, in real life they are not superior to others, only weak. I know many will disagree, but you have to feel sorry for someone like that. moo and speculation
No worries, we all have different opinions. mooStrongly disagree. He's a dirty, dirty cop and a bully.
I wouldn't think any of today's testimony came as a surprise to the judge. She had to have seen it before when the Touhy materials were released by the Feds and she had to make rulings on admissibility.2) I think I’m finally starting to understand Judge Cannone. It seems that a lot of her perceived animosity toward the defense comes from their insinuations of corruption within the ranks of MA first responders - cops, state troopers, EMTs. This is the system Cannone works to uphold and is invested in - professionally, morally, ethically. When presented with that actual corruption today she reacted with, I’d say, disgust. I think she is someone who desperately wants the system to work because she understands it has to, and anyone who throws a wrench in that system earns her ire. JMO.
I think she's very provincial too. Didn't like the idea of Mr. Hollywood Jackson walking into her 200 year old courtroom with no microphones or AC and fewer chairs than I have in my dining room.
She spent entire her pre-judgeship as a public defender. Maybe she's just used to everyone taking a plea for a lesser charge. But she may be beginning to see the light as of today. Surely in the past she had innocent clients that she couldn't fully help and who were railroaded by the system. And the cross of Proctor has only just begun. Things will get worse.
I wasn’t speaking about THIS case, of course he’d be conflicted out! Just making a point about defense lawyers in general.Oh, it was a joke. DY would be conflicted. But he'd know someone, I'm sure....
What he said was not black humor.Have you ever heard the term 'black humour'? I know many professionals that make unprofessional comments but still give 110% and do not let their personal feelings affect how they do their job. If you think that this is not common then you live under a rock. Proctor just got caught at it.
I think he enjoyed having power over her. Going through her phone, learning her secrets and gossiping about them to his buddies.Regarding MP text messages: It so funny how he’s wanting nudes, calls her all kinds of names, yet is interested in her? Did I understand all that? People like that can’t be understood other than they're insecure and immature? They are lost in the sauce and like to feel more superior than others? But, in real life they are not superior to others, only weak. I know many will disagree, but you have to feel sorry for someone like that. moo and speculation
It's misogyny.Regarding MP text messages: It so funny how he’s wanting nudes, calls her all kinds of names, yet is interested in her? Did I understand all that? People like that can’t be understood other than they're insecure and immature? They are lost in the sauce and like to feel more superior than others? But, in real life they are not superior to others, only weak. I know many will disagree, but you have to feel sorry for someone like that. moo and speculation
Regarding MP text messages: It so funny how he’s wanting nudes, calls her all kinds of names, yet is interested in her? Did I understand all that? People like that can’t be understood other than they're insecure and immature? They are lost in the sauce and like to feel more superior than others? But, in real life they are not superior to others, only weak. I know many will disagree, but you have to feel sorry for someone like that. moo and speculation
What he said was not black humor.
Have you ever heard the term 'black humour'? I know many professionals that make unprofessional comments but still give 110% and do not let their personal feelings affect how they do their job. If you think that this is not common then you live under a rock. Proctor just got caught at it.
Just curious, does everyone think this was J Bev’s first time hearing any of the MP info? Idk myself, but I can’t imagine some of this wasn t unveiled in pre trial hearings?My big takeaways from today:
1) Surely despite whatever else the CW has planned - barring video evidence of Karen hitting John on purpose - their case tanked today. I do not see how they get back the jury back after this.
2) I think I’m finally starting to understand Judge Cannone. It seems that a lot of her perceived animosity toward the defense comes from their insinuations of corruption within the ranks of MA first responders - cops, state troopers, EMTs. This is the system Cannone works to uphold and is invested in - professionally, morally, ethically. When presented with that actual corruption today she reacted with, I’d say, disgust. I think she is someone who desperately wants the system to work because she understands it has to, and anyone who throws a wrench in that system earns her ire. JMO.
3) It should the scare crap out of all of us that none of this ever would have come to light without the federal investigation. As citizens we have to place so much trust in our LE and when that trust is betrayed the consequences are devastating.
4) What does it say about Lally’s track record thus far that I was actually relieved he brought up the texts first in direct instead of letting AJ shred his witness on cross like has happened every other time? (Although on second thought, after hearing the texts, maybe this was the one time he should’ve just skipped over that…)
5) The CW apologists are real quiet in this thread ever since Proctor took the stand - cmon, don’t be shy! Let’s hear how this was actually another masterful gambit by the CW.
She definitely has time to redeem herself (in the eyes of those who dislike her). I think she really just did not know everything that was "out there" with regard to this case.
Wonder on that too…… but IIRC proctor on more than one occasion has stated I believe on the record today that any conduct by him or offensive or inappropriate ‘jokes’ did not affect the investigation. And wasn’t that allowed without objection or judge ruling? So maybe he opened that door wide open? IANAL. MOOLally's direct of MP barely touched on his part in the actual investigation and was concentrated on his dirty comments instead. I guess that leaves the defense limited on issues they cant cross him on.JMO
Sure, but we have not gotten to see her reaction to it until now.Just curious, does everyone think this was J Bev’s first time hearing any of the MP info? Idk myself, but I can’t imagine some of this wasn t unveiled in pre trial hearings?