nodamselindistress
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Yep, corruption all the way. You will never convince me there are that many incompetent LEO's in a specific area.
I'm going with "corruption".
If they were incompetent they wouldn't have known what they were doing.
SB death predates JOK. Given SB's investigation by local LE opened on Feb 2021 and the ME ruled the death a suicide by May 2021 -- case closed, I think they share a few things in common including the "last person to see SB was a Cop"-- so nothing to see here.
And never mind that the first responding officer from Canton was Kevin Albert (leaf blower & solo cup fame) and the CW witness who looked at Farwell's phone failed to discover more than 32K messages between the defendant and his victim was the same CW witness for the PD's phones/Cellbrite is unreliable expert, something in that water is tainted. JMO
BBMMy daughter was on a sports team with Sandra for a couple of years. Says she was hands down the chattiest person she's ever met in her life, a non-stop talker with a tendency to over-share.
Whether she was "venting" or just being her usual self, knowing what we know about him, I think it's a safe guess that Heal enjoyed that chatter.
BBM
Heal enjoyed a lot more than SB's chatter.
"A former Stoughton animal control officer, Joshua Heal, has also admitted to having sex with Birchmore at the town’s animal shelter. "
And so many nice people who looked the other way for years as SB's tragically abused life passed in front of them.Yes. He was cleared of any statutory rape allegations because she didn't meet him until she was of age. But he admitted he traded sex with her for a kitten once and had other relations with her in the shelter.
So many nice guys in poor Sandra's life.
And so many nice people who looked the other way for years as SB's tragically abused life passed in front of them.
Was SB's "long term" therapist one of them too?
My therapist told me the only time she can tell anyone something I say is if it's A) me threatening to hurt myself or B) related to a crime.I think therapists in MA have to keep what their patients tell them confidential. There are certain exceptions like child or elder abuse. I'm not sure what age Sandra was when she starting confiding in one.
The crime would be MF raping her at 15.My therapist told me the only time she can tell anyone something I say is if it's A) me threatening to hurt myself or B) related to a crime.
This assumes Sandra shared the date she first had sex with any of these men. Based on texts quoted in the charging docs it appears she had sex with Matthew Farwell for the first time when she was weeks or a few months from turning 16, the age of consent. Totally illegal, but we don't know what sort of details she shared in her sessions or what age the sessions began. She loved Farwell for most of the time they were involved and may have protected him.The crime would be MF raping her at 15.
From there you go back to when he met SB at 12 and forward to whatever timeline SB and her therapist were on.
I can't let the therapist go and highly doubt anything will come of it as far as an in-depth investigation by the FBI or an outside investigation.
Yeah , think If I feel I need a therapists advice ,I will ask a lawyer first. Maybe I got a case and not a mental health issue. Best to seek the right help first.My therapist told me the only time she can tell anyone something I say is if it's A) me threatening to hurt myself or B) related to a crime.
I'm going with "corruption".
If they were incompetent they wouldn't have known what they were doing.
One could ask, if the entrance criteria for police academy are so stringent, how come the district ends up with cops like F brothers? I read that both participated in Explorer program themselves when at school. Did anyone come across this information, too?Yep, corruption all the way. You will never convince me there are that many incompetent LEO's in a specific area.
BBM
Heal enjoyed a lot more than SB's chatter.
"A former Stoughton animal control officer, Joshua Heal, has also admitted to having sex with Birchmore at the town’s animal shelter. "
Sandra Birchmore Case: Ex Stoughton Cop Charged with Murder
Federal investigators arrested former detective Matthew Farwell today in connection with the 23-year-old's death.www.bostonmagazine.com
I doubt it was someone on the inside. The Feds don't need local permission to investigate.This is nauseating. Was it like an initiation rite for the local police, to have sex with a vulnerable woman? One wonders what finally made someone bring in the feds. Was it some political squabbles higher up, or did anyone finally get disgusted, or where there simply too many talks around the town?
This assumes Sandra shared the date she first had sex with any of these men. Based on texts quoted in the charging docs it appears she had sex with Matthew Farwell for the first time when she was weeks or a few months from turning 16, the age of consent. Totally illegal, but we don't know what sort of details she shared in her sessions or what age the sessions began. She loved Farwell for most of the time they were involved and may have protected him.
Yes scapa^^^…. well stated! And so true.Sad but true, IMO.
Had the statutory rape been reported at the time or after I wonder how SB might have responded. One of the cruellest elements of an already deeply cruel case is how deep and far her trust in LE ran, and how constantly and cynically that trust was exploited.
None of this excuses those with a duty to report -- including however many LE around the case. Given what we know about how the allegations against Devine in 2014 and later were handled, I have some doubts that appropriate action would have taken in the wake of a statutory rape charge, but it might have paused or ended some of the exploitation sooner and perhaps even have averted the murder.
This is one of the saddest cases I've ever encountered. Those involved -- however many or high up -- deserve to be named, shamed and punished.
What's the one-word term for "complicit complacency?" JMO, not corruption, just tacitly following the path of the least resistance. The body found in three days muddied waters for ME. The victim with known emotional issues, so suicide is one's best guess. (Between 2000 and 2021 the rate was 33% up, and 2022 was the record high in suicides in all US history.) Maybe local police was not adept at extracting data from cellphones. That everyone involved was acting in synch is understandable. When feds take over the case and collect everyone's phones, it rebounds (see Proctor's case).