MA - Sara, 38, Madison, 8, James, 6, Michael Bermudez, 2, slain, W Brookfield, Mar'18 *Arrest*

[mpnola]

folks. Think about it. Diesel is flammable. IT BURNS IN A DIESEL ENGINE. IT HAS A HIGHER IGNITION temp and will not burn as fast as gas will. But trust me I’ve seen diesel boats burn just as well as gas once they are well into a burn. Diesel fumes USUALLY will not ignite, but it sure as heck burns. I’ve got 20 years running a commercial fishing boat that has a 3208 CAT ENGINE AND IT BURNS PLENTY OF DIESEL EVERY SUMMER.

I don't know anything about any of this. And I didn't post about the gas, but I have a question..... if someone had a container of diesel and spread it around on the bed or something and threw a match on it, would it likely go out or burn? And same question about regular gasoline. These are real questions lol. Not the weird type that is asking with attitude. I honestly am curious because I don't know

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[MassGuy]

http://www.telegram.com/news/201803...slaying-of-bermudez-family-in-west-brookfield

This explains where the ridiculous MS-13 speculation came from. I thought that it came from an irresponsible police officer, but it apparently came from this guy.

 

[cybervampira]

http://www.telegram.com/news/201803...slaying-of-bermudez-family-in-west-brookfield

This explains where the ridiculous MS-13 speculation came from. I thought that it came from an irresponsible police officer, but it apparently came from this guy.

This guy‘s lies and his criminal record make him a wonderful suspect, I would think!

Mr. Locke’s criminal record includes arson, larceny, violation of harassment orders, possession of a burglary tool and having drug paraphernalia, records and testimony show.

Arraignment video:
https://youtu.be/P9SPhO60vws

 

[MassGuy]

This guy‘s lies and his criminal record make him a wonderful suspect, I would think!

Arraignment video:
https://youtu.be/P9SPhO60vws

Oh yeah, absolutely. People do mislead investigations when they aren't involved,but this guy certainly fits the bill with his record. A lot of times, the charge of misleading an investigation is a precursor to more serious charges, so we'll see.

 

[Rubicon]

http://www.telegram.com/news/201803...slaying-of-bermudez-family-in-west-brookfield

This explains where the ridiculous MS-13 speculation came from. I thought that it came from an irresponsible police officer, but it apparently came from this guy.

It seems that Locke is related to the Bermudez family (by marriage?).

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[Steleheart]

http://www.masslive.com/news/worcester/index.ssf/2018/03/ware_man_accused_of_falsely_te.html

On March 24, investigators spoke to Bermudez, who told troopers he had not seen Locke since his family was killed and denied making any statements in regards to MS-13, court records said.

"He further denied linking anyone from MS-13 to these crimes," court documents continued.

Investigators spoke to Gagnon on March 25 and he told them that he was at the Bermudez residence with Locke within the last two weeks.

"However, he stated that Moses Bermudez never spoke of having people killed or any mention of MS-13," court documents read.

OY. Spectacular is right.

 

[DexterMorgan]

It sounds like Locke wants MS-13 to pay Moses a visit off a lie. Plus now they know the address due to the released statements.

But why would Locke say that Moses told him and Gagnon while knowing that Gagnon wouldn't back up that claim?

 

[MassGuy]

It sounds like Locke wants MS-13 to pay Moses a visit off a lie. Plus now they know the address due to the released statements.

But why would Locke say that Moses told him and Gagnon while knowing that Gagnon wouldn't back up that claim?

Locke has a long history of drug use/offenses so any attempt to try and rationalize his actions is likely futile.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Locke has a long history of drug use/offenses so any attempt to try and rationalize his actions is likely futile.

He definitely seems to fit the profile where as being unhinged and killing everyone since the kids could probably identify him.

But I wonder how accurate are phone pings from Ware to Westbrook and back? This Gagnon person should know more as well since they apparently hangs out with Locke.

 

[Rocky1]

I don't know anything about any of this. And I didn't post about the gas, but I have a question..... if someone had a container of diesel and spread it around on the bed or something and threw a match on it, would it likely go out or burn? And same question about regular gasoline. These are real questions lol. Not the weird type that is asking with attitude. I honestly am curious because I don't know

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Here's a video with someone trying to burn diesel with a lighter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMm06tpKho4

Oil fired furnaces burn #2 fuel, which is the same a diesel. below is a video of how much better it burns when it is atomized. An oil fired furnace injects fuel under pressure through a nozzle with many holes in it, so the spray atomizes the fuel, and burns more completely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKUl-eijClo

This is what gas does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlMAyNOMBEg

 

[mpnola]

Here's a video with someone trying to burn diesel with a lighter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMm06tpKho4

Oil fired furnaces burn #2 fuel, which is the same a diesel. below is a video of how much better it burns when it is atomized. An oil fired furnace injects fuel under pressure through a nozzle with many holes in it, so the spray atomizes the fuel, and burns more completely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKUl-eijClo

This is what gas does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlMAyNOMBEg

Thank you! This came up.next in the video you showed me. He does diesel in the 4 minute and regular gas in the 11 minute timeframe. Super interesting. Learning something more than how soil samples can catch a killler! https://youtu.be/7nL10C7FSbE

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[Just One More Thing]

Matt Locke's statement was made on 3/23/18 This was well beyond the first thought of an el salvador gang connection.

 

[Just One More Thing]

[FONT=&quot]The Ware man who is being accused of falsely telling authorities that Moses Bermudez made a comment about MS-13 in relation to the killings of his wife and three children is Bermudez's cousin, a family member said.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Mathew P. Locke, 31, of 20 Eddy St., is cousins with Moses Bermudez, according to his sister, Rachaul Bermudez.

http://www.masslive.com/news/worcester/index.ssf/2018/03/ware_man_accused_of_lying_to_p.html[/FONT]

 

[MassGuy]

Matt Locke's statement was made on 3/23/18 This was well beyond the first thought of an el salvador gang connection.

Yeah, the charges stem from the specific interaction that he claimed to have with Moses in the weeks after the murders. The MS-13 speculation came about almost immediately following the crime. It doesn't mean that those rumors didn't come from this Locke guy though.

 

[MsGazette]

Yeah, the charges stem from the specific interaction that he claimed to have with Moses in the weeks after the murders. The MS-13 speculation came about almost immediately following the crime. It doesn't mean that those rumors didn't come from this Locke guy though.

I think they have an idea he’s involved and they are trying to hold him on “something” to build the case. IMO


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[Rubicon]

I think they have an idea he’s involved and they are trying to hold him on “something” to build the case. IMO


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Agreed... and also to get him to cave and provide info regarding anyone else who may be involved. He must be involved in some way... putting aside his criminal background... anyone who is related to a family who is killed (especially with innocent children) and lies during the course of the investigation is hiding something or has direct knowledge of what happened.

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[cvaldez1975]

so the widower is saying he has not spoken to Locke since his family died, but Gagnon is saying while widower never mentioned MS-13, that they had been to his house...... hmmmmmmm

http://www.masslive.com/news/worcester/index.ssf/2018/03/ware_man_accused_of_falsely_te.html


OY. Spectacular is right.

 

[MsGazette]

so the widower is saying he has not spoken to Locke since his family died, but Gagnon is saying while widower never mentioned MS-13, that they had been to his house...... hmmmmmmm

That is strange that Moses says he hasn’t seen Locke since the murder and Gagnon says he has.


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[cvaldez1975]

also in the article where Rachaul said they were cousins, she exposed "tension int he family" following the deaths and that police have interviewed Locke "multiple times". why?

That is strange that Moses says he hasn’t seen Locke since the murder and Gagnon says he has.


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[alexwood]

so the widower is saying he has not spoken to Locke since his family died, but Gagnon is saying while widower never mentioned MS-13, that they had been to his house...... hmmmmmmm

I'm with you, cvaldez, on the hmmmmmm! (and have been, from the getgo)