Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #18

[SuperdadV8]

I bet Sandra Felgueiras talks about NF as an accomplice of CB in robberies.

But she already had in the past.

 

[Newthoughts]

Firs Herr Wolters had no concrete evidence. Now he has material evidence. This is upgrading but CB keeps uncharged.

But at present CB is safely behind bars. He can't harm anyone and he can't escape. So there is no immediate imperative to charge and huge incentive to keep building a case before it has to go to the defence lawyer.

 

[Newthoughts]

Firs Herr Wolters had no concrete evidence. Now he has material evidence. This is upgrading but CB keeps uncharged.

But at present CB is safely behind bars. He can't harm anyone and he can't escape. So there is no immediate imperative to charge and huge incentive to keep building a case before it has to go to the defence lawyer.

I read that German LE are holding back on charging CB because under German law, FF is instantaneously granted access to all the files in relation to CB involvement ?!
That sounds about right to me re handing over the files at the time of charges being pressed.. Is this not what happens in other Countries?? When would they normally be handed over? X

In the UK after the person has been charged. Also you can only hold and question somebody for so many hours before you charge or release them. However CB is safely locked so why rush to charge and hand over evidence when they can keep building their case.

 

[BIZCOCHO]

But she already had in the past.

Yes, that's why she says "confirmed". IMO

 

[Anxala]

Isn't confirming a suspicion simply just having a suspicion?

It's always tricky and ambiguous with these translations, and most particularly when it's a preview of a show with a clear eye on viewing figures.

To be generous, it could mean that there now exists actual solid proof that prime suspect CB had an accomplice and actual concrete proof of that will be revealed in this prog by Felgueiras...

To be cynical (my default setting, to be fair and honest, as far as this case is concerned), it could just mean that Wolters, in his usual helpful way, said or inferred in this prog that 'solid proof exists that CB had an accomplice...but I can't say anything more about it for now, Sandra' and Sandra and her Sexta team have, of course, nodded and agreed and run with it.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Yes, that's why she says "confirm". IMO

Maybe. But NF won't be the clue to solve the case IMO. In my opinion and according to what has been reported, the suspect used to hid his paedophile urges to his ex-gf's and if they found out, he likely escalated and became violent.

Remember, the suspect seems to hid his paedo-past to his fellows very well. Likely until 2017. So for about 20 years.

Not unusal IMO....

The other thing:

Moving to another country to escape a sentence? Okay, plausible!

Moving to algarve and drifting over decades between countries because he and his girlfriend liked the sound of words like "lagos" or "algarve"?

Hm.....! IMO there is more, something like a mentor. Maybe someone he met while he had the broken up education as a car mechanic, that was a drifter too. Someone who said, portugal is the way! "Come by, i help you to settle there", while he lost the second parents. Just a thought....

 

[MENDEL]

Maybe. But NF won't be the clue to solve the case IMO. In my opinion and according to what has been reported, the suspect used to hid his paedophile urges to his ex-gf's and if they found out, he likely escalated and became violent.

Remember, the suspect seems to hid his paedo-past to his fellows very well. Likely until 2017. So for about 20 years.

Not unusal IMO....

The other thing:

Moving to another country to escape a sentence? Okay, plausible!

Moving to algarve and drifting over decades between countries because he and his girlfriend liked the sound of words like "lagos" or "algarve"?

Hm.....! IMO there is more, something like a mentor. Maybe someone he met while he had the broken up education as a car mechanic, that was a drifter too. Someone who said, portugal is the way! "Come by, i help you to settle there", while he lost the second parents. Just a thought....

BUt we know his mentor: BP. That's all we know.

 

[MENDEL]

But at present CB is safely behind bars. He can't harm anyone and he can't escape. So there is no immediate imperative to charge and huge incentive to keep building a case before it has to go to the defence lawyer.

That's not modern Justice. You must charge, judge and punish if applicable in the name of the victim. Not keeping happy because he's arrested anyway, that's middles ages.

 

[SuperdadV8]

BUt we know his mentor: BP. That's all we know.

Are you sure about BP? Yes, there is a connection according to vehicles.

But what about the gastronomy guy with bavarian roots also, that has mentioned the MM case on FB, gave him work and that has been mentioned for not a single phrase after that?

 

[Ellmau]

Are any WS members in Portugal and can report on what the programme actually says?

 

[MENDEL]

Are you sure about BP? Yes, there is a connection according to vehicles.

But what about the gastronomy guy with bavarian roots also, that has mentioned the MM case on FB, gave him work and that has been mentioned for not a single phrase after that?

BP was his best friend in Algarve and probably was his motivation to travel there (my opinion, not sure if they first met in Germany). BP was his only visit to prison in Portimão and signed a court paper offering his address to him to be released from remand.

 

[enjy15]

From today, the new RTP Sextas episode will hopefully expand on this.

“In a preview of the show, Presenter Sandra Felgueiras says: 'German detectives have confirmed the suspicion that Christian Brueckner had an accomplice.” - Has been confirmed rather assumed that CB had an accomplice.

Isn't confirming a suspicion simply just having a suspicion?
On these threads we also confirm we have a suspicion there was an accomplice, as we talk about it a lot.
Doesn't mean to say there was one, unless of course there was a 2nd perp outside the window carrying MM away, casing out the appt and so on
JMO[/QUOTE]
You’re right! I’ve read it back and it seems that way. I would make a great tabloid journalist

 

[SuperdadV8]

BP was his best friend in Algarve and probably was his motivation to travel there (my opinion, not sure if they first met in Germany). BP was his only visit to prison in Portimão and signed a court paper offering his address to him to be released from remand.

Yes Mendel, according to the conviction in 2006. But he frequented the country by the mid 90's...

 

[Tekno]

Wonder is he looked like Tannerman?!

My opinion. Jos Brech has been implicated in the abduction and murder of Nicky Verstappen in the Netherlands. He currently is in prison and awaiting trial which has been postponed over a period of a year. I am not implying he is involved in Madeleine’s disappearance. However, there seems to be a link between him and M Ney, who was first suspected in the Verstappen case. Also, the e-fit presumably compiled by artist Jenni W, as the person seen in close proximity to apartment 5A, resembles Jos B. I don’t know if it will be allowed to post a picture comparing these individuals?

 

[enjy15]

My opinion. Jos Brech has been implicated in the abduction and murder of Nicky Verstappen in the Netherlands. He currently is in prison and awaiting trial which has been postponed over a period of a year. I am not implying he is involved in Madeleine’s disappearance. However, there seems to be a link between him and M Ney, who was first suspected in the Verstappen case. Also, the e-fit presumably compiled by artist Jenni W, as the person seen in close proximity to apartment 5A, resembles Jos B. I don’t know if it will be allowed to post a picture comparing these individuals?

Very interesting correlations. HCW says there will be no announcements about the MM case until next year, is this because it has links to Jon Brech and his trial?

 

[Tekno]

Very interesting correlations. HCW says there will be no announcements about the MM case until next year, is this because it has links to Jon Brech and his trial?

Hi Enjy, since 2017 a lot of things have come to light. Including arresting Brech in the Netherlands. Perhaps this is the reason why Dutch authorities are ‘on board’ with the latest developments. Can someone please advice if pictures are permitted? Thank you.

 

[Ardoch]

How professional is it, to share some personal information to the media, according to his clients convictions report in this case? Very odd and unwise behavior IMO.

I was reading through the posts and about to say exactly what you've said.
So unprofessional and insensitive to any potential victims families.

 

[Chiatos]

My opinion. Jos Brech has been implicated in the abduction and murder of Nicky Verstappen in the Netherlands. He currently is in prison and awaiting trial which has been postponed over a period of a year. I am not implying he is involved in Madeleine’s disappearance. However, there seems to be a link between him and M Ney, who was first suspected in the Verstappen case. Also, the e-fit presumably compiled by artist Jenni W, as the person seen in close proximity to apartment 5A, resembles Jos B. I don’t know if it will be allowed to post a picture comparing these individuals?

I see no reason why it wouldn't be allowed. Please proceed.

 

[SuperdadV8]

My opinion. Jos Brech has been implicated in the abduction and murder of Nicky Verstappen in the Netherlands. He currently is in prison and awaiting trial which has been postponed over a period of a year. I am not implying he is involved in Madeleine’s disappearance. However, there seems to be a link between him and M Ney, who was first suspected in the Verstappen case. Also, the e-fit presumably compiled by artist Jenni W, as the person seen in close proximity to apartment 5A, resembles Jos B. I don’t know if it will be allowed to post a picture comparing these individuals?

Tbe connection between JB and MN seems plausible due to modus operandi by murdering a boy, but where are the facts, dear Tekno?)

Although lots of profilers stated, that the sex isn't the main purpose, you can't ignore the differences IMO.

The modus operandi between MN and maybe CB differs a lot, to that whats known, or likely known, to CB.

IMO MN was looking for sexual intercourse to his victims. Right. But in a way of some kind of relationship, what is known. Tbe murder appeared due to the fact, the perp didn't wanted to be recognized after achieving his needs and maybe get rid of the evidence. Unprofessional, as we know because tbe forensic evidence, the bodies, had been found.

According to CB's statements made online, a possible murder could be the result of doing the sexual urges itself. To me, that seems very different. Even the fact, CB not only looks for sexuality, but even torturing. MN doesn't appeared as a sadist IMO.

According to the known facts about CB, there is a sadistic value about females, although the peado-urges keep overheading. MN was more into relationships to boys, or maybe sexual intercourse with them, what hasn't been proven at last.

But CB seems to be into torturing females, no matter what age, maybe even if it was "scripted" before? Bragging around in detail, although MN used poems, for the description of his urges. That doesn't fit at last, right!

But what are the similarities?

- Connected to orphanages
- Relation to children
- Internet chats about fantasies
- Portugal, Netherlands?
- Using break-ins for satisfying the urges
- Sniffing out the crime-scene before doing it
- Keeping and hiding footage
- Playing an helpful and interested person
- Trying to be kept as a normal guy/father in germany, although both couldn't resist the urges
- keeping hidden evidence
- burying evidence under sand
- artistic vein
- playing with prosecuters and some kind of proud of former deeds

At the end, the key is hidden more in tbe furious-five relation, than in the MN relation IMO. Although i'm sure, they met in special chatrooms in the past.

 

[MENDEL]

Yes Mendel, according to the conviction in 2006. But he frequented the country by the mid 90's...

But according to the couple from Foral he knew BP ever since. That's why I said BP might be the reason CB chose Algarve.