Malaysia airlines 370 with 239 people on board, 8 March 2014 #25

[SouthAussie]

MALAYSIA Airlines has issued an angry rejection of a book proposing to know what happened to flight MH370, and threatened legal action against its authors.

The book, Goodnight Malaysian 370, by journalist Geoff Taylor and former pilot and investigator Ewan Wilson points the finger at the aircraft’s pilot captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah as being solely responsible for the Boeing 777’s disappearance, and the apparent deaths of all 239 people on board.

But a strongly worded statement issued by the airline today said it was appalled by the book’s claim the pilot “intentionally turned off the oxygen supply in the cabin and activated the autopilot feature”.

“There is no evidence to support any of the claims made in the book which is a product of pure conjecture for the purposes of profit by the authors and publishers,” said the statement.

“It must be noted that the duo are not involved in the investigation of MH370 yet they stray into the fields of science and medicine as self described “experts” offering an analysis beyond their knowledge and abilities.”

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...n-and-falsehoods/story-fnizu68q-1227062771113

 

[highflyer]

MH17 was shot down by a rebel group in Ukraine.
No connection at all to MH370's disappearance.

Without knowing what DID happen to MH 370 it is impossible to say it has no connection to MH17.

 

[ilovepierre]

Without knowing what DID happen to MH 370 it is impossible to say it has no connection to MH17.

IMO, there is no connection.
MH17 happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Until we know more about MH370, I'll stick with the opinion that the two incidences are not related.

 

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...063145536?nk=fdf0038c55d856f50a08e245bf0f2cd4 SEPT 19

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 search to move south

Two of three survey ships conducting the search using towed underwater vehicles equipped with side-scanning sonar will concentrate on the area south of the previous priority area.

The change comes after experts gained a better understanding of the parameters within which a satellite ground station in Perth was operating during the ill-fated flight, which disappeared in March with the loss of 239 lives.
The refinement gave them a better understanding of when the Boeing 777 turned south into the Indian Ocean.

The aircraft’s transponder went dark and communications through the *Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System largely stopped but the airline continued to communicate with the Perth ground station through an Inmarsat satellite over the Indian Ocean.

 

[SouthAussie]

Search priorities will still depend primarily on satellite data but they will also investigate 58 anomalies in a sweeping bathymetric survey of the ocean floor in the probable crash area.

Mr Dolan said a “backscatter analysis’’ of the data from the bathymetric survey had revealed information on the relative hardness or softness of the sea floor. But he cautioned against reading too much into the findings.

“In doing that work you can occasionally get areas of interest, if you like, where it’s harder than the surrounding surface but you can’t distinguish what’s rock or might be metal or something else,’’ he said.

“So as we carry out the search in particular areas we will pay a little bit of extra attention to those sorts of areas of interest.

“But geoscientists are saying there’s every likelihood they’re just geological formations, hard rock in soft areas and those sorts of things.’’

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...ch-to-move-south/story-e6frg95x-1227063145536

 

[Roselvr]

Fully understand what you are saying regarding the connection. And these are my thoughts only - I still find the odds of 2 x MH A/C suffering major events in the space of 6 months staggering. Either way - my heart goes out to those families and friends who have been effected by these catasrophes.

From what I saw; it was a mistake. You can go back to the beginning of the 1st MH17 WS thread; they were boasting on Twitter that they shot down a plane; there were all sorts of posts that were removed once they realized it was a passenger plane.

 

[redheadedgal]

Fully understand what you are saying regarding the connection. And these are my thoughts only - I still find the odds of 2 x MH A/C suffering major events in the space of 6 months staggering. Either way - my heart goes out to those families and friends who have been effected by these catasrophes.

mother loses both sons by violent shootings in same month: http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/04/us/oakland-mother-loses-sons/

two young canton kids lose both parents months apart: http://www.patriotledger.com/article/20140116/News/301169801

parents who lost two children two months apart speak of their devastation: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-in-two-months-speak-of-their-devastation.htm

 

[SouthAussie]

After resupply in Fremantle, Fugro Equator commenced passage back to the search area on 19 September and arrived on 24 September to recommence survey work in the search area in preparation for the underwater search.

On 20 September, the Chinese survey vessel Zhu Kezhen completed her MH370 search mission and commenced return passage to China.

The Chinese support vessel Haixun 01 continued to be stationed at the Port of Fremantle for repairs.

A series of cold fronts will move through to the south of the area over the next four days. A significant front will approach from the west on Friday. Sea conditions between sea states 2 and 7 are expected over the next three to four days.

http://www.atsb.gov.au/mh370.aspx


Sea State Description Codes:
http://www.usc.edu/org/cosee-west/oceanglobe/pdf/seastate_descr.pdf

 

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MALAYSIA Airlines has issued an angry rejection of a book proposing to know what happened to flight MH370, and threatened legal action against its authors.

The book, Goodnight Malaysian 370, by journalist Geoff Taylor and former pilot and investigator Ewan Wilson points the finger at the aircraft’s pilot captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah as being solely responsible for the Boeing 777’s disappearance, and the apparent deaths of all 239 people on board.

But a strongly worded statement issued by the airline today said it was appalled by the book’s claim the pilot “intentionally turned off the oxygen supply in the cabin and activated the autopilot feature”.

“There is no evidence to support any of the claims made in the book which is a product of pure conjecture for the purposes of profit by the authors and publishers,” said the statement.

“It must be noted that the duo are not involved in the investigation of MH370 yet they stray into the fields of science and medicine as self described “experts” offering an analysis beyond their knowledge and abilities.”

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...n-and-falsehoods/story-fnizu68q-1227062771113

The authors of the book have responded

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/...suicide-theory-in-book-on-mh370-disappearance SEPT 24, 2014

Authors defend pilot suicide theory in book on MH370 disappearance

"We've always been critical of the actions of many of the air traffic controllers on duty that night, the Malaysian military for its failure to act on primary radar sightings on the night and indeed for many days after and the Malaysian Government for its shambolic handling of the tragedy," he said.

"Our book looks dispassionately and in depth at every possible alternative for what could have happened to MH370 on March 8," he said.
"We analysed the possibilities of slow depressurization and hijacking and found that these were extremely unlikely."

 

[SouthAussie]

GO Phoenix ship to begin searching a remote patch of the Indian Ocean where investigators believe the plane ran out of fuel.

Crews will resume the underwater hunt for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 at the end of September, moving the search area further south than initially planned, a senior Australian official has announced.

The search had been due to start next week but the first of three ships that will scour a remote patch of the Indian Ocean for the plane that vanished in March needed some additional work done in Indonesia, said Martin Dolan of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau.

The ship, Malaysia's GO Phoenix, is now expected to begin searching on 30 September.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/19/malaysia-airlines-mh370-underwater-hunt-indian-ocean

 

[SouthAussie]

Three-dimensional models of the sea floor terrain in the southern Indian Ocean. The area is being scanned and surveyed
ahead of the underwater search for MH370 believed to have ditched in the water after running out of fuel. Picture: ATSB

The MH370 search area encompasses the seabed on and around Broken Ridge, an extensive linear, mountainous sea floor
structure that once formed the margin between two geological plates. Picture: ATSB


THE Australian agency overseeing the search for MH370 has released 3D images of the Indian Ocean seabed that is thought to have become the final resting place for the missing aircraft.

“The models show newly discovered sea floor features including remnant submarine volcanoes, ridges up to 300m high and depressions up to 1400m deep,” said the ATSB report.

The images do not show anything that looks like an aircraft or even part of a plane, but the data is considered crucial for searchers to ensure equipment can be operated safely.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...a-airlines-plane/story-fnizu68q-1227071525048

 

[SouthAussie]

The search starts again tomorrow. The Malaysian ship GO Phoenix will start searching at that time. It will be joined soon after by Fugro Discovery (one of the contracted vessels). Then, at the end of October, Fugro Equator (the other contracted vessel) will join the search.

http://english.people.com.cn/n/2014/0930/c90777-8790102.html

 

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http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...l-look-at-seabed/story-fnizu68q-1227077006329 OCT 2, 2014

Video cameras will look at seabed

SEARCH vessels towing sonar equipment and video cameras are now just days away from reaching the site in the Indian Ocean where MH370 is thought to have crashed seven months ago.

 

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/flight-mh370-hi-tech-vessels-resume-4365471 OCT 2, 2014

Hi-tech vessels to resume search for missing flight in Indian Ocean within days

Search vessels will arrive at the Indian Ocean site where missing Flight MH370 is feared to have disappeared within days.

Australian Transport Minister Warren Truss said: “It’s not clear how long the search will take.

“We would hope, obviously, to find the aircraft on the first day, but it could in fact take a year to search the entire area and weather conditions will have an impact.

 

[SouthAussie]

Update from the ATSB:

GO Phoenix is expected to arrive at its allocated underwater search area around 5 October and is expected to conduct operations there for around 12 days before sailing to Fremantle to be resupplied.

Fugro Discovery has completed fit-out work in Durban, South Africa, and is en route to Australia. The vessel’s current estimated time of arrival in Fremantle is 5 October, whereupon search equipment and a mission crew will be mobilised.

Fugro Equator, the vessel currently being used to survey the search area, is expected to be mobilised as a search vessel when its bathymetric work is complete around the end of October.

http://www.atsb.gov.au/mh370.aspx

 

[Roselvr]

Thanks guys! Really hope they get a miracle!

 

[SouthAussie]

MH370: plan for search to restart on Sunday after four months on hold
Crews of three ships will use sonar, video cameras and jet fuel sensors to scour desolate stretch of southern Indian Ocean

After a four-month hiatus, the hunt for Malaysia Airlines flight 370 is about to resume in a desolate stretch of the southern Indian Ocean, with searchers lowering new equipment deep hoping to finally solve one of the world’s most perplexing aviation mysteries.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...o-restart-on-sunday-after-four-months-on-hold

 

[SouthAussie]

The Fugro Discovery has arrived at Fremantle and is expected to join the Indian Ocean search for MH370 later this week.

The Fremantle Port Authority says the Fugro Discovery is currently scheduled to leave the port on Friday.

Meanwhile, GO Phoenix is expected to arrive at its allocated underwater search area later today.

http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...es-in-wa-for-mh370-search#ARVyLcZJepdBZsbS.99

 

[SouthAussie]

The GO Phoenix, owned by Perth-based oil and gas services company Go Marine Group, has been hired by Malaysia’s government and its state oil company Petroliam Nasional. It will tow a side-scan sonar vehicle close to the sea floor to search for features of the ocean bottom. The vehicle can cover 194 square kilometers per day, according to its manufacturer.

The sonar being used by Phoenix is capable of spotting features as small as 100 square centimeters as far as 1.2 kilometers away, according to the manufacturer’s website. That’s equivalent to someone at one of the piers of San Francisco’s Golden Gate bridge picking out a compact disc case on the opposite side.

http://www.concordmonitor.com/news/...rch-begins-in-4-mile-deep-indian-ocean-waters

 

[Bryan9]

I hope they're searching in the right place. The independent scientific team headed by Duncan Steel believes the most likely location is further south, along the 7th arc. So far as I know the ATSB has not responded to the independent group's statement... but, significantly, the ATSB seems to have shifted the bathymetric survey further south. The attached image shows the independent group's predicted location (IG); the red marks show the ongoing bathymetric survey. The graphic is from Steel's site.