Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #6

[ElleElle]

I thought of some questions:

I wonder if the Captain was training anyone to fly on his home simulator? If so, maybe he was letting that person fly and turned off transponder, etc, so no one would know. Or maybe the person he was training turned out to be a terrorist & he didn't know it.

That thought has crossed my mind multiple times.

 

[21merc7]

I never understood the significance of reporting this other than a 'poignant' last sign off. Didn't seem particularly odd to me but then I didn't really think about there being a sign-off protocol.

If it is code for hijacking (in any country), I think we would have heard about it by now, if only from an 'unofficial source'. But even if it is, why would the Malaysian Government release this information to the media? The only reason I can think of would be to send a message to the hijackers

The time of last contact is poignant in locating.

 

[QueenD]

FYI...

Poster QueenD posted on Thread #4 -post #1004-

-NBC News reported that the pilot had some psychological issue a good while back...and authorities are looking into it now.-

However... I do not believe we ever found a MSM link to verify this...

HTH...:seeya:

This is all I could find right now on the pilots psyc issues.


Malaysian police chief Khalid Abu Bakar, who has been ordered to look at possible criminal aspects in the disappearance of the plane, said hijacking, sabotage and issues related to the pilots' psychological health were being considered.

Taken from this link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...issing-plane-direction-unknown_n_4946232.html

 

[Woe.be.gone]

All right, good night, is not important.

Every flight I have been on, the language is normal, comfortable, accented, via the area. There is nothing abnormal in all right, good night. No code.

News is lacking, military is looking and nothing to report, so news is making issues where there are none for pay and interest. Good to keep up interest since so many are gone, but making mountains out of grains is not helpful to those that lost loved ones, 239 lost loved ones with many family members willing to hold onto whatever made up comment, when they know their loved one is dead. Not nice.............

The last words heard "alright, good night" are unusual in that the two systems, ACAR and transponder, had already been turned off. So the timing of events means the words are out of place and suspect.

Talking about this now on CNN.

 

[MsFacetious]

Ok, if the plane was still flying at 8am AND landed somewhere, wouldn't there have been other people wherever it landed? Like other planes boarding, or landing? How could it have landed somewhere and no one seen it, or known about it?

There are a huge number of abandoned runways over there.
It's really quite scary. Plenty of them could accommodate a 777. :scared:

 

[jjenny]

There are a huge number of abandoned runways over there.
It's really quite scary. Plenty of them could accommodate a 777. :scared:

But the passengers could still be alive if it landed somewhere. I don't believe it, though.

 

[Beetlebrow]

Anyone know when the next update is? I feel like we are closer to some real answers. I am at a loss when I can't look up peoples linkdin or facebook or criminal record or home purchase.....nothing. So many people on this plane......I would love to know who knows how to fly a plane. I just feel like the answer is going to be something we never expected. Prayers to the families it is the worst not knowing.

 

[21merc7]

The last words heard "alright, good night" are unusual in that the two systems, ACAR and transponder, had already been turned off. So the timing of events means the words are out of place and suspect.

Talking about his now on CNN.

I know. But I want to highlight.

This is an international issue, with large repercussions.

Until some sort of Government Official says anything, this is just keeping it in the news. Might as well watch Nancy Grace and believe her until then. JMHO!!!!

 

[Irisha]

OT. That happen to me. Outcome-i had stones in my duck.

When they got rid of the stones did it stop the "quacking"?

 

[MsFacetious]

But the passengers could still be alive if it landed somewhere. I don't believe it, though.

That is my hope and I know it's the passengers only chance of being alive.
It's just scary there are so many abandoned runways, some even on ISLANDS.
Obviously I've never thought about it before so I didn't know that there were so many.

My children now know about as much about the Geography over there as they do of America!
We've looked into several of the gorgeous islands over there and some history of the area. :seeya:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Talking heads are wondering why ATC didn't follow up or say/do something more. They'd like to hear more about them/that.

I'm recalling we heard something about another plane being asked to contact the missing plane. Haven't heard this claim being discussed on the news shows and can't recall how we heard about it/rumor(?).

 

[Beetlebrow]

Ok, if the plane was still flying at 8am AND landed somewhere, wouldn't there have been other people wherever it landed? Like other planes boarding, or landing? How could it have landed somewhere and no one seen it, or known about it?

This is what I was saying earlier.....wasn't it light out? I have a feeling someone noticed something, they just may not realize it yet. Also if the plane crashed in the Himalayan mountains, could it go unnoticed? Would the emergency beacon thingy send out a signal???

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

Retweeted by James Chau
CCTVNEWS ‏@cctvnews 13h
@jameschau reports from Kuala Lumpur that Malaysian officials have confirmed that #MH370 was hijacked & steered off course.

https://twitter.com/jameschau

Keep in mind this tweet was sent 14 hours ago, and since then it has been retracted. Malaysian Government is saying this is not been 100% confirmed, but it is still an option they are exploring.

 

[ElleElle]

Can someone give me insight into the reason the plane would have climbed to 45,000 feet in the first place? If it was hijacked, why would hijacker demand this?

To bleep out the radars? IDK.

 

[Intermezzo]

Oh, very good points.

And what about India/Pakistan? Someone can't tell me they wouldn't have caught the plane in their air space. Someone else also mentioned this about China.

That is a very good point about, each country doesn't want to show their spy activites.

I believe China and India satellites would have detected a plane approaching their air space
I agree..no one country wants to show their hand in regards to spy satellites..etc..

 

[aa9511]

I personally think it sounds like a struggle in the *advertiser censored* pit. :twocents:

Others think it was taken to 45,000 feet and the passenger oxygen turned off.
It would certainly be the easiest way to subdue all of the passengers and crew... :scared:

OMG that is such a scary, scary thought.

Whoever it was that knew about all this information like turning off transponders, how to go undetected, going up to 45,000 feet, etc., sure sounds like they had a pilot on board.

In that case, not necessariy to keep the 2 pilots - they probably, I hate to say it, killed them off. And then the pilot hijacker, with assistant(s), just took over the plane.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I know. But I want to highlight.

This is an international issue, with large repercussions.

Until some sort of Government Official says anything, this is just keeping it in the news. Might as well watch Nancy Grace and believe her until then. JMHO!!!!

Weren't the order of events outlined during the news conference?
Maybe I'm mistaken as I thought the sequence had been confirmed.

 

[21merc7]

Weren't the order of events outlined during the news conference?
Maybe I'm mistaken as I thought the sequence had been confirmed.

Any order of suspected events reported changes daily, sometimes within minutes.

I cannot expound enough that understanding the other countries and their motives for flights coming and going are tremendous.

 

[dotr]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/0...light-mh370-who-or-what-is-flying-our-planes/

"The threat of fatigue and the challenge of staying alert has meanwhile emerged as the biggest challenge for the humans at the helm of these aircraft, they report.

Last September, during a row over new EU regulations for working hours, the British Airline Pilots’ Association released a survey which revealed 56% of 500 commercial pilots had admitted to sleeping while on the flight deck. Of those, nearly one in three said they had woken up to find their co-pilot also asleep.

In one notorious case in 2009, a Northwest Airlines Airbus with 144 passengers on board overshot Minneapolis airport by 150 miles. The pilots denied suggestions they were asleep and stressed instead they were involved in a heated argument. “Distracted,” was the official line."

 

[mom-a-licious]

The last words heard "alright, good night" are unusual in that the two systems, ACAR and transponder, had already been turned off. So the timing of events means the words are out of place and suspect.

Talking about his now on CNN.

Thanks for this, I'd been wondering about the sequence of events revolving around the time of "all right, good night"....so both or even one of the systems had already been turned off when the pilot said that? I'd wondered....also the timing of the verbal contact with Malaysian atc, then the disappearance of contact during the interval/handoff to Vietnam airspace....the timing of that being rather precise also has me focusing on the pilot too