Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

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I see what you are saying, an evil doctor whose father was a womanizing drinker with a penchant for buggery and whose mother was a prostitute with webbed feet....forced to put saucy people in burlap bags and beat them with reeds.... Good work Austin.

Austin Powers character, "Number 2" may be responsible in Natalie Woods mysterious death labeled an "accidental drowning" 30+ years ago....

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/22/showbiz/natalie-wood-probe/index.html

Let's hope our accidental drowning fooy doesn't stick around that long.
 

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http://apps.suffolkcountyny.gov/police/pressrelease/prview.aspx?id=ter&prid=108&year=2012

Incident: Body Found in Manorville County Park
Location: Manorville Hills County Park, Manorville
Date/Time: Wednesday, March 21, 2012


Suffolk County Police Homicide Squad detectives are investigating the discovery of a body in the woods in Manorville today.

The body was discovered by a jogger earlier today and the gender has yet to be determined.
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Has this one been identified, yet? Other reports have updates directly on the press release, but this one doesn't. I wonder if they're not reporting the gender because it's another female body?
 
http://apps.suffolkcountyny.gov/police/pressrelease/prview.aspx?id=ter&prid=108&year=2012

Incident: Body Found in Manorville County Park
Location: Manorville Hills County Park, Manorville
Date/Time: Wednesday, March 21, 2012


Suffolk County Police Homicide Squad detectives are investigating the discovery of a body in the woods in Manorville today.

The body was discovered by a jogger earlier today and the gender has yet to be determined.
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Has this one been identified, yet? Other reports have updates directly on the press release, but this one doesn't. I wonder if they're not reporting the gender because it's another female body?

What is the significance of the bodies being found on state park locations? Does this give the LISK an advantage of some kind?
 
http://apps.suffolkcountyny.gov/police/pressrelease/prview.aspx?id=ter&prid=108&year=2012

Incident: Body Found in Manorville County Park
Location: Manorville Hills County Park, Manorville
Date/Time: Wednesday, March 21, 2012


Suffolk County Police Homicide Squad detectives are investigating the discovery of a body in the woods in Manorville today.

The body was discovered by a jogger earlier today and the gender has yet to be determined.
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Has this one been identified, yet? Other reports have updates directly on the press release, but this one doesn't. I wonder if they're not reporting the gender because it's another female body?

She overdosed on drugs and her friends dumped her body there. Police ruled that her death was not related to this case. They have confessions too.
 
What is the significance of the bodies being found on state park locations? Does this give the LISK an advantage of some kind?

Hi Redbird,
I don't know, but apparently many of the bodies have been found on state park locations...frequently dumped just off the road...I have definitely thought that might be something to research further...who of our POI's have access to state parks? All of them, que no?
 
Yes, of the more recent SIX sets of remains found, I believe one on Mar 29th and then one other set found on April 4th, each were body parts from two separate Manorville victims whose torsos were found in the woods near the LIE. One set matched up with Jessica Taylor's torso and the other set matches up with a woman's torso, found in Mannorville that has to this day not been ID'd.


I wonder if they are ACTIVELY trying to ID the unidentified victims or if they are just waiting on tips from the public. How does that work? I suppose its a good thing that the police think these all these cases are connected otherwise these victims would probably be in the cold case file. When do they determine a case cold anyways? Is there specific protocol for that
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/14/nyregion/4-bodies-leave-hamlet-on-edge.html?pagewanted=2&src=pm

"Four days later, hunters found a second body just inside the tree line on the south side of the expressway between exits 68 and 69. That body was male, intact and clothed. Crushed neck bones were ''not accidental,'' Lieutenant Fitzpatrick said. The victim had been dead for about three weeks, was white or Hispanic, 20 to 30 years old, about 5-foot-6 and 130 to 150 pounds, and had black hair, he said.

On July 26, 2003, a woman walking her dog, again near Halsey Manor Road and the expressway, found a second female body -- also white or Hispanic, no taller than 5-foot-5 and under 125 pounds -- an estimated week after she died. She was between 20 and 30 years old. Unlike the first female body, this one was left in the open, on a paved access road to a sump. But like the first female, this victim was nude, decapitated and had her hands chopped off. Detectives later released photos of part of a wing tattoo near her right kidney and a purple and silver decal on one of her toenails." (This one was ID'd as Jessica Taylor.)


On Nov. 10, mushroom pickers found the body of a male, intact but in an advanced stage of decomposition. Like the first male, this one was also dumped just south of the expressway, but 11 miles east of the first. The victim was Caucasian, 35 to 50 years old, about 5-foot-6 and had died up to four months earlier."

Note all of the men and the man found on OP are petite men. No more than 5'6".

We don't hear much about these other two men found. WHERE DO THEY FIT IN?
They weren't dismembered but were found in the same area as JT?
 
We don't hear much about these other two men found. WHERE DO THEY FIT IN?
They weren't dismembered but were found in the same area as JT?

the two men in manorville dont get much attention. they were both killed pretty close to the time the respective women were killed. I think the men were killed by the same person as the women. It is hard to argue that they aren't related. Notice the men are not dismembered? One of the men had some type of surgical staples due to a fracture.



Manorville 2000


FOUND: Nov 19, 2000 On paved utility road off Halsey Manor Road, Manorville. Nude white female, 5’5”, 125 lbs, 35-40 years old, brown hair, body in pieces and wrapped in plastic bags. Head, hands and right foot missing. Died weeks before. Skull, hands and right foot found in Gilgo Beach – MANORVILLE (peconic river co park) – FEMALE #1

FOUND: Nov. 23, 2000 - Between exits 68 and 69, south side of eastbound LIE. White or Hispanic male, 20-30 years old, 5’6”, 112 lbs, short black hair, has surgical staple possibly from a previous fracture, wearing M blue/white striped Gap boxers. Dead for about three weeks. NCIC#: U-660001512 – MANORVILLE MALE#1


Manorville 2003

FOUND: July 26, 2003 Jessica Taylor, nude, partial remains,
skull, hands and right forearm found in Gilgo Beach. – MANORVILLE (peconic river co park) – Jessica Taylor

FOUND: Nov. 10, 2003 south of Long Island Expressway, Manorville White male, 35-50 years old, 5’6”. Died up to four months earlier (July). – MANORVILLE MALE#2 (pine barrens preserve)
 
That is interesting. I wonder if it's possible they were killed in pairs. Is it possible that victims Male 1 and female 1 knew each other? They were killed about the same time right?

Then JT and male 2 were also killed about the same.
Just a thought.

But, if same killer why were the men not dismembered? Curious.
 
the two men in manorville dont get much attention. they were both killed pretty close to the time the respective women were killed. I think the men were killed by the same person as the women. It is hard to argue that they aren't related. Notice the men are not dismembered? One of the men had some type of surgical staples due to a fracture.



Manorville 2000


FOUND: Nov 19, 2000 On paved utility road off Halsey Manor Road, Manorville. Nude white female, 5’5”, 125 lbs, 35-40 years old, brown hair, body in pieces and wrapped in plastic bags. Head, hands and right foot missing. Died weeks before. Skull, hands and right foot found in Gilgo Beach – MANORVILLE (peconic river co park) – FEMALE #1

FOUND: Nov. 23, 2000 - Between exits 68 and 69, south side of eastbound LIE. White or Hispanic male, 20-30 years old, 5’6”, 112 lbs, short black hair, has surgical staple possibly from a previous fracture, wearing M blue/white striped Gap boxers. Dead for about three weeks. NCIC#: U-660001512 – MANORVILLE MALE#1


Manorville 2003

FOUND: July 26, 2003 Jessica Taylor, nude, partial remains,
skull, hands and right forearm found in Gilgo Beach. – MANORVILLE (peconic river co park) – Jessica Taylor

FOUND: Nov. 10, 2003 south of Long Island Expressway, Manorville White male, 35-50 years old, 5’6”. Died up to four months earlier (July). – MANORVILLE MALE#2 (pine barrens preserve)

Thanks for putting it like this. I didn't think the men were connected to the women, at first, but now I've changed my mind seeing it like this. These men were relatively short for men. (Average male is 5'11") Have they been identified?
 
That is interesting. I wonder if it's possible they were killed in pairs. Is it possible that victims Male 1 and female 1 knew each other? They were killed about the same time right?

Then JT and male 2 were also killed about the same.
Just a thought.

But, if same killer why were the men not dismembered? Curious.

Theories on why he wouldn't have dismembered the men:

1. The source of his rage is against females.
2. He didn't try to hide the men's identity.
3. They were just a means to an end.
 
Sadistic in the sense that the victims were decapitated when dumped. BUT the investigators haven't released any information on how the Gilgo bodies were there. We also don't know whether the victims were tortured before they were killed (except when he called one of his victim's sister and said about the look on her sister's eyes)

What's interesting is if the latest case is related (if not for either domestic dispute or another killer or gang), then the killer has changed his method of dumping from too close to the road to little further off (300 feet) from the road, so that the bodies would not be Quickly found by passer-bys. Hopefully this is an isolated incident with another killer or the police would really need to comb a very large section of Manorville.

Being covered in bedsheet is a real clue that he had time to dump the victim. If that bedsheet is from a hotel, I think investigators would have a chance to map it to some hotel or can even verify missing bedsheets from any hotels if the hotel keeps a record of all that.

What is this about the killer saying something about the look in her sisters eyes? I don't remember reading that anywhere. Did I miss it? I thought the family was advice NOT to talk about what was said. Was this in the msm?
 
What is this about the killer saying something about the look in her sisters eyes? I don't remember reading that anywhere. Did I miss it? I thought the family was advice NOT to talk about what was said. Was this in the msm?

i believe i read that before way back as well--have to check my memory banks
 
What is this about the killer saying something about the look in her sisters eyes? I don't remember reading that anywhere. Did I miss it? I thought the family was advice NOT to talk about what was said. Was this in the msm?

The call to MB's sister. I don't remember "the look in [her] sister's eyes," specifically, but I believe it is something along those ones.
 
You got me ponderin' about the possibility of female counterparts to the males victims. What I was wondering is if the male victims could possibly be pimps to the female counterparts? The STALK, Inc. profile theorizes that the LI perp has a way of finding out if escorts have pimps. Could the LI perp be screening for escorts without pimps or with less hands on pimps because of possible previous run-ins with them? Could the LI perp have gotten tired of having to deal with pimps and having to kill them?

I just read this post. That's kind of what I was thinking when I said maybe they were killed in pairs. Wasn't JTs BF/pimp locked up at the time she disappeared? Maybe she ran around with someone else when he was locked up? I suppose the police would have looked into a connection between the male and female victims.
JTOL (just thinking outloud) ; )
 
The call to MB's sister. I don't remember "the look in [her] sister's eyes," specifically, but I believe it is something along those ones.

I remember the taunting calls. I just hadn't read anything about "the look in her eyes."
 
Here we go again with the sloppy reporting.

One or two reporters actually speak with a witness and two hundred others copy their story. Each time the story is written over again in a new journalist's words, the story loses integrity (and crucial facts are altered). I feel the need to write to almost every writer to question their sources and te accuracy of their reporting.

So which is it?

Were the shoes missing or did the witness simply say that he did not notice shoes?

These details make a world of difference.

We put up with the sloppy reporting for over a year and as a result we have rumors that won't die and false reports that are being accepted as fact.

Truer words were never spoken!

I would also add this...

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