Found Deceased MD - Rachel Morin, 37, left for walk on Ma & Pa Trail 6pm, car found at Williams St entrance, Bel Air, 5 Aug 2023 #2

[Knox]

thank you for this. I’m going to admit that I’m a complete newbie to this whole websleuth thing and I appreciate the information you have provided. However could withholding information like this hinder a potential tip that could quite literally solve the case?

Well, let's think about that - I honestly can't remember if there was a MP Poster for Rachel which stated last seen clothing. If there was one, it likely didn't circulate long because her body was found so quickly. I'm referencing clothing as the potential tip, because that's what you asked about previously.

Let's say the perp initally took and then discarded her clothing- say while he was driving over a bridge with actively running water. The clothing snags on a nearby tree limb, canoers and people on the beach see said clothing, but no one would ever think of it being related to Rachel's murder. Is that what you mean?

IMO, LE has plenty of evidence to work with. They have released a video of her killer, stating it's enough for someone who knows him to identify. Someone knows who he is - it's just a matter of getting it to the right people and being brave enough to come forward. I do worry that some may not come forward, because their legal status may be an issue.

 

[OldCop]

I know that RM’s body was found but did LE find any items of clothing belonging to her at the scene of her murder?

If they did could someone explain why revealing this could jeopardise catching the perp?

In this particular scenario, LE is also working to debunk false confessions. You would be amazed at how many people falsely confess in high profile cases. LE holds back information that only the killer would know. If someone comes in and correctly names what he took from the scene or other descriptive information, he might be your man. However, if he can’t answer questions about what was taken, details of the murder, etc., he may be giving you a false confession.
Furthermore, if someone were to phone in a tip that he overheard someone talking about the murder and they gave explicit information that only the killer would know, you would have a very viable POI.
IF LE gave out all this information to the press, it would be extremely difficult to weed out who is telling the truth.

 

[Iloveicarly]

Well, let's think about that - I honestly can't remember if there was a MP Poster for Rachel which stated last seen clothing. If there was one, it likely didn't circulate long because her body was found so quickly. I'm referencing clothing as the potential tip, because that's what you asked about previously.

Let's say the perp initally took and then discarded her clothing- say while he was driving over a bridge with actively running water. The clothing snags on a nearby tree limb, canoers and people on the beach see said clothing, but no one would ever think of it being related to Rachel's murder. Is that what you mean?

IMO, LE has plenty of evidence to work with. They have released a video of her killer, stating it's enough for someone who knows him to identify. Someone knows who he is - it's just a matter of getting it to the right people and being brave enough to come forward. I do worry that some may not come forward, because their legal status may be an issue.

Let's say the perp initally took and then discarded her clothing- say while he was driving over a bridge with actively running water. The clothing snags on a nearby tree limb, canoers and people on the beach see said clothing, but no one would ever think of it being related to Rachel's murder. Is that what you mean?

Yes this is what i mean! Or another example being (speculation) the perp has kept her clothing and someone who has a somewhat close relationship to the perp is aware they have possession of these belongings. if LE were to reveal that RM’s clothing has not been found at the crime scene/proximity of the crime scene area then the assumption/possibility that the perp is keeping them would be valid and could lead to a potential tip which is crucial.

I know this sounds like a complete reach but if you think about it, the fact that LE has not received a tip that is significantly helpful to the case yet perhaps they should try releasing new information like this in hopes of receiving more crucial evidence.

 

[Iloveicarly]

In this particular scenario, LE is also working to debunk false confessions. You would be amazed at how many people falsely confess in high profile cases. LE holds back information that only the killer would know. If someone comes in and correctly names what he took from the scene or other descriptive information, he might be your man. However, if he can’t answer questions about what was taken, details of the murder, etc., he may be giving you a false confession.
Furthermore, if someone were to phone in a tip that he overheard someone talking about the murder and they gave explicit information that only the killer would know, you would have a very viable POI.
IF LE gave out all this information to the press, it would be extremely difficult to weed out who is telling the truth.

Brilliant explanation! thank you

 

[nao]

Moo..she was wearing sneakers, spandex shorts and spandex tank top...so says first post with description...moo

 

[Iloveicarly]

Well, let's think about that -

Well, let's think about that - I honestly can't remember if there was a MP Poster for Rachel which stated last seen clothing. If there was one, it likely didn't circulate long because her body was found so quickly. I'm referencing clothing as the potential tip, because that's what you asked about previously.

Let's say the perp initally took and then discarded her clothing- say while he was driving over a bridge with actively running water. The clothing snags on a nearby tree limb, canoers and people on the beach see said clothing, but no one would ever think of it being related to Rachel's murder. Is that what you mean?

IMO, LE has plenty of evidence to work with. They have released a video of her killer, stating it's enough for someone who knows him to identify. Someone knows who he is - it's just a matter of getting it to the right people and being brave enough to come forward. I do worry that some may not come forward, because their legal status may be an issue.

If there was one, it likely didn't circulate long because her body was found so quickly. I'm referencing clothing as the potential tip, because that's what you asked about previously.

Let's say the perp initally took and then discarded her clothing- say while he was driving over a bridge with actively running water. The clothing snags on a nearby tree limb, canoers and people on the beach see said clothing, but no one would ever think of it being related to Rachel's murder. Is that what you mean?

IMO, LE has plenty of evidence to work with. They have released a video of her killer, stating it's enough for someone who knows him to identify. Someone knows who he is - it's just a matter of getting it to the right people and being brave enough to come forward. I do worry that some may not come forward, because their legal status may be an issue.

Well, let's think about that - I honestly can't remember if there was a MP Poster for Rachel which stated last seen clothing. If there was one, it likely didn't circulate long because her body was found so quickly. I'm referencing clothing as the potential tip, because that's what you asked about previously.

Let's say the perp initally took and then discarded her clothing- say while he was driving over a bridge with actively running water. The clothing snags on a nearby tree limb, canoers and people on the beach see said clothing, but no one would ever think of it being related to Rachel's murder. Is that what you mean?

IMO, LE has plenty of evidence to work with. They have released a video of her killer, stating it's enough for someone who knows him to identify. Someone knows who he is - it's just a matter of getting it to the right people and being brave enough to come forward. I do worry that some may not come forward, because their legal status may be an issue.

Has RM’s clothing that day been clarified though? I’m assuming when the MP reports were first broadcasted they mentioned what she was last seen wearing?…

 

[Iloveicarly]

Moo..she was wearing sneakers, spandex shorts and spandex tank top...so says first post with description...moo

and was this clarified by LE?

 

[nao]

and was this clarified by LE?

That was the description on missing poster, she had been to tanning studio, just before going to park, so it would seem her clothing was witnessed..moo

 

[nao]

Moo..the not LE witness said she still had clothing on but it had been pulled down and up. I think it wasn't sexual but he was just checking for hidden valuables. I do not think her shoes were mentioned by not LE witness. ..moo..I think the guys just a thief that will use violence if needed...moo

 

[nao]

Page 1 has the clothing description

 

[Knox]

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Woman Reported Missing, Car Found Abandoned on Ma and Pa Trail

Harford County, MD - Police in Harford County are searching for a woman who disappeared on Saturday.

www.shorenewsnetwork.com

Rachel is 5’2″ tall, weighing 107 pounds, with blonde hair and captivating blue eyes. At the time of her disappearance, she was wearing a blue or black tank top, a black sports bra, black spandex shorts, and gray sneakers.

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Rachel is 5’2″ tall, weighing 107 pounds, with blonde hair and captivating blue eyes. At the time of her disappearance, she was wearing a blue or black tank top, a black sports bra, black spandex shorts, and gray sneakers.

 

[Normancita]

Has LE clarified if Rachel was sexually assaulted?

 

[steeltowngirl]

Has LE clarified if Rachel was sexually assaulted?

No.

The sheriff’s office has received an autopsy report from the medical examiner’s office but is withholding details of the attack and the crime scene.

[…]

“I will continue to hold off on confirming the details of Rachel’s death, and information related to the crime scene,” Gahler said.

Rachel Morin slaying: Harford County sheriff dismisses social media posts claiming to identify Bel Air woman’s killer

Harford County Sheriff Jeff Gahler on Thursday evening dismissed social media posts claiming to have identified Rachel Morin’s killer. Morin, a 37-year-old mother of five, went missing around…

www.baltimoresun.com

 

[Peppery]

LE hasn’t said much about the scene. No official word on if she was clothed or not, SA’d or not. All we know is she was murdered and it was violent. Anything else is just speculation that has been repeated enough times it’s grown legs and people assume it’s true. Fact is we know nothing about what/if/where her clothing, shoes, car keys, cell phone or anything else was found or not found. LE has not confirmed any of it, including COD.

 

[Perky]

Just to interject here, California's definition of Burglary is fairly encompassing.

Entering an inhabited dwelling with the intent to commit a felony constitutes burglary, whether breaking & entering occurred or not.

Example : Entering a grocery store in an attempt to "wash" fake cash (buying items with fake money), can be tried as burglary in CA.

Or crashing a party that might've been held at the residence (based on balloon being visible inside of the apartment in the video, and beverage containers, helium cannisters visible on the porch), and then causing trouble at the party ? So crash a party, caused trouble, assault someone would then be classified as an 'invasion' ?

 

[Joe Friday]

Or crashing a party that might've been held at the residence (based on balloon being visible inside of the apartment in the video, and beverage containers, helium cannisters visible on the porch), and then causing trouble at the party ? So crash a party, caused trouble, assault someone would then be classified as an 'invasion' ?

I came up with the same theory about a house party earlier up thread. I think it explains a lot about what is seen in the video (no shirt, escorted out door), how the assault may have gone down and why the perp is unknown.

OR maybe a house party situation, and this unknown guy shows up, mingles, tries to get friendly with young girl, escorted to door.

Found Deceased - MD - Rachel Morin, 37, left for walk on Ma & Pa Trail 6pm, car found at Williams St entrance, Bel Air, 5 Aug 2023 #2

I also think he looks to be heavier than 160. He has muscle definition that would add to his weight.

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JMO

 

[Peppery]

I came up with the same theory about a house party earlier up thread. I think it explains a lot about what is seen in the video (no shirt, escorted out door), how the assault may have gone down and why the perp is unknown.





JMO

Interesting idea. Wasn’t the California incident at 340am on 3/26? A Saturday night party carried over into early Sunday morning. I’ll look to confirm the date.

 

[Peppery]

Confirms CA happened on 3/26/23:

Los Angeles police said that the suspect was involved in a residential burglary and assault that took place on March 26 in South Los Angeles.

Rachel Morin murder: DNA links suspected killer to Los Angeles home invasion

The Harford County Sheriff’s Office recovered DNA from Morin’s body that was matched through the national law enforcement database to evidence from a crime in Los Angeles.

www.thebaltimorebanner.com

 

[Friday Fan]

Interesting idea. Wasn’t the California incident at 340am on 3/26? A Saturday night party carried over into early Sunday morning. I’ll look to confirm the date.

Interesting. It seems most routine burglaries happen on weekdays.

 

[dotr]

Interesting. It seems most routine burglaries happen on weekdays.

When Do Most Burglaries Occur? Everything You Should Know

Arming yourself with the right knowledge can be helpful in preventing break-ins. Get tips for preventing a home invasion or robbery.

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''Most home burglaries take place during the day.​

While the darkness tends to cause apprehensive feelings, most burglars actually prefer to break in during the day. FBI.org tells us that home break-ins are more common in daylight hours. Why? Most people are at work and kids are in school.

Most home burglaries occur between 10 am and 3 pm.​

According to jsu.edu, most home burglaries occur between 10 in the morning and 3 in the afternoon. However, an investigative report out of Portland for KGW News found that some burglars preferred the specific window of 12:30 to 2:30 pm because they wouldn’t be interrupted by someone coming home for lunch and school would still be in session.

More burglaries occur in the summer months than in the winter months.​

In what season do burglaries most often occur? A study completed by the Bureau of Justice Statistics showed a spike in burglary during summer months in a study from 1993-2010 with the exception of three years during that period. The report states that, “On average, household burglary rates were approximately 11% lower in winter, 9% lower in spring, and about 6% lower in fall than in summer.” Burglars are more likely to test your home security during warmer months.''

''Most intruders live within two miles of the victim​

Burglars are often opportunistic. Intruders are not evil geniuses, capable of masterminding a crafty plan. They just happen to be observant and in the right place at the right time. Intruders usually choose a home because they live close enough to notice the vulnerabilities and patterns of the inhabitants. Frequently, home invasions are the result of impulsive behavior coupled with ideal circumstances, not a carefully formulated plan.

Most burglars are male and under the age of 25​

According to the study conducted by JSU, most burglars are young and male. They are usually looking for a quick and easy target. Often, intruders are in their late teens. Males are the typical culprit for home invasions.''

ontrary to what you see in movies and on TV, most burglars aren’t obvious and don’t skulk around wearing all black in the dark of night. Rather, many burglars are on the prowl during daylight hours and try to appear as inconspicuous as possible. That’s why it’s important to stay vigilant and be aware of the people in your neighborhood and any strangers just walking around.

• ''If you see vehicles or people you don’t recognize showing up around the same area on a semi-regular basis, take note.
• Be especially wary if you see any strangers taking photos outside your home. It’s an odd behavior that may indicate a burglar is casing your home.
  • “Casing a house” means a burglar is sizing up your home and evaluating the how easy or difficult it is to break in, taking note of your comings, goings, and daily habits. It also involves them trying to find out if you have any valuables that may make it worth their while to try to rob your home.
• Also be aware of people who may try to pose as a door-to-door salesperson or claim to be with a utility company in order to gain entry to your home. This is a common scam that is an easy way for a burglar to use a homeowner’s trusting nature to stage a successful home invasion.''