GUILTY MD - Sarah Foxwell, 11, Salisbury, 23 Dec 2009

[OrdinaryLife]

I think I am being very misunderstood here. My opinion is that there is only so much information regarding the Aunt and her relationship with Sarah's murderer. More will become available, I have no doubt. Then, and only then, will I be comfortable discussing her possible "involvement", It bothers me that more attention/blame is directed to her vs Leggs. The who took Sarah, abused her, and then murdered her.

So, if it come across that I am defending the Aunt, so be it. I prefer to wait for more solid facts before making judgments against a murdered victims family. Besides, we all have our opinions/thoughts. I love diversity and discussion. I respect all and expect nothing less in return.

imho

 

[lbminnesota]

I think I am being very misunderstood here. My opinion is that there is only so much information regarding the Aunt and her relationship with Sarah's murderer. More will become available, I have no doubt. Then, and only then, will I be comfortable discussing her possible "involvement", It bothers me that more attention/blame is directed to her vs Leggs. The who took Sarah, abused her, and then murdered her.

So, if it come across that I am defending the Aunt, so be it. I prefer to wait for more solid facts before making judgments against a murdered victims family. Besides, we all have our opinions/thoughts. I love diversity and discussion. I respect all and expect nothing less in return.

imho

As with you, I choose to focus on the root cause.

 

[sniperacer]

I think I am being very misunderstood here. My opinion is that there is only so much information regarding the Aunt and her relationship with Sarah's murderer. More will become available, I have no doubt. Then, and only then, will I be comfortable discussing her possible "involvement", It bothers me that more attention/blame is directed to her vs Leggs. The who took Sarah, abused her, and then murdered her.

So, if it come across that I am defending the Aunt, so be it. I prefer to wait for more solid facts before making judgments against a murdered victims family. Besides, we all have our opinions/thoughts. I love diversity and discussion. I respect all and expect nothing less in return.

imho

There seems to be confussion regarding Aunt vs. Leggs. Here's what I think the confusion is, based upon what we know and what the aunt told police (yes it is a fact that the Aunt told police she knew Mr. Leggs was a sex offender and he knew where the hide-a-house-key is).

Mr. Leggs is 100% legally responsible for the death of Sarah.

The Aunt is stupid, dump, ignorant, or whatever. But legally, she shares no resposibility. As they say, "you can't prosecute dumb".

Morally, or in the eyes of Sarah, the Aunt is culpable.

Now can we all get along.

 

[mysticrose]

I don't think the aunt dated this guy long enough to really know who he was. It would be apparent that Leggs chose this woman to go after her children.And how is that her fault ?

Full blame needs to go Leggs way he is the who took her and killed her and did probally other horrors to her and then burned her poor little body. He sucks.

He knows right from wrong he should have been put down long ago after the second time he was convicted. If anyone wants to throw blame then blame should be placed on the perp and our judical system that seems to fail our kids do to lax laws. Blame should be placed on our citizens who do not push our officals harder to make laws put in place for harsher punishments against RSO's. The list could go on.
I understand being a parent and taking more precations to keep our children safe but this day and age it is ridculous that we have to worry about our children even walking home from the bus stop with other children why is that ? That is because our system is failing and needs a revamp. The police arrest them and the judges let them go ....
Parents should be outraged everywhere and start pulling together for tougher laws where these people never get out or are put to death.
JMHO....of course

 

[mysticrose]

Do you think for one minute that if this Aunt thought this man would do this to one of her girls that he would have been hanging around ? Of course not. Most people can not comprehend the nature of this crime let alone think some one is actually capable of going through with it ... RSO groom, they groom everyone around.

Unfortunatley the public is not educated enough about this kind of crime, certainly I was not as informed as I am after joining WS in March about the horrors that happen in our world. I had never done a RSO check for my neighborhood until coming here, and I would have never thought to do a check on new people coming into my life , people just don't do it if they are not aware. Most people live in a bubble oblivious to reality except for maybe reality TV.

You would not believe the flack I get for being a "strict" parent or as my son calls me a helicopter mom ..lol. I get it from everywhere my family, friends etc...
They tell me I am parinoid well they don't see what I see and what I read so I don't care. I have my rules and I stick to them, when my kids are 18 well you know the rest, sorry I just seem to be rambiling this morning I guess I need more coffee ..

 

[impatientredhead]

If the mother/guardian of a young child brings home a dog that has been labeled as vicious after attacking a child in the past and said dog mauls and kills her child is the dog 100% responsible?

 

[impatientredhead]

Do you think for one minute that if this Aunt thought this man would do this to one of her girls that he would have been hanging around ? Of course not. Most people can not comprehend the nature of this crime let alone think some one is actually capable of going through with it ... RSO groom, they groom everyone around.

Unfortunatley the public is not educated enough about this kind of crime, certainly I was not as informed as I am after joining WS in March about the horrors that happen in our world. I had never done a RSO check for my neighborhood until coming here, and I would have never thought to do a check on new people coming into my life , people just don't do it if they are not aware. Most people live in a bubble oblivious to reality except for maybe reality TV.

You would not believe the flack I get for being a "strict" parent or as my son calls me a helicopter mom ..lol. I get it from everywhere my family, friends etc...
They tell me I am parinoid well they don't see what I see and what I read so I don't care. I have my rules and I stick to them, when my kids are 18 well you know the rest, sorry I just seem to be rambiling this morning I guess I need more coffee ..

No, I don't think she thought this would be the outcome.
I don't think the mother chatting online while her toddler drowns in the tub thought it would happen either. I don't think the drug addict mother expects her toddler to eat a prescription pill and OD. I don't think the mother that watches her boyfriend beat her child believes it will happen again or that he will kill the child next time.

Doesn't change their responsibility in my opinion.
Some of these women start facing charges for the choices maybe the word will get out.

moo

 

[OrdinaryLife]

If the mother/guardian of a young child brings home a dog that has been labeled as vicious after attacking a child in the past and said dog mauls and kills her child is the dog 100% responsible?

Actually, any dog that has been labled vicious after attacking is not given up for adoption. They are put down. Unless, somewhere the legal papers regarding vicious animal are not clear. So, if you adopt an animal from a shelter where documents are not clear, is it really your responsibility or is it the system that failed the new owner?

 

[Dee10]

Obituary

SALISBURY -- Sarah Haley Foxwell, 11, of Salisbury died Wednesday, Dec. 23, 2009.Sarah was born on May 18, 1998, in Salisbury.


She is survived by her mother and father; two maternal aunts; one maternal uncle; maternal grandparents; four brothers; two sisters; one paternal aunt; two paternal uncles; paternal grandparents; and many cousins. She was preceded in death by one sister.
Related

• Community faces 'disbelief'; services Saturday for Sarah Foxwell

Memorial services will be held Saturday at 11 a.m. at Emmanuel Wesleyan Church at 217 Beaglin Park Drive in Salisbury.
Arrangements are in the care of Holloway Funeral Home PA at 501 Snow Hill Road in Salisbury. To send condolences to the family, visit www.hollowayfh.com.

 

[impatientredhead]

Actually, any dog that has been labled vicious after attacking is not given up for adoption. They are put down. Unless, somewhere the legal papers regarding vicious animal are not clear. So, if you adopt an animal from a shelter where documents are not clear, is it really your responsibility or is it the system that failed the new owner?

And our system labeled this man as known sex offender.
She was aware of the warning and disregarded it.

I am all for putting sex offenders to death but that is not the current system.
The current system is a warning system.
Just like taking a dog with a vicious label on him home at your own risk.

The only way to truly protect a child is for the adults in their life to put the child's needs ahead of their own. Seems to me the only thing that motivates some of these women is their own wants and desires. Maybe the desire to not be behind bars will make them less reckless with their choices.

Sex offender responsible- absolutely
Society responsible for the system- absolutely
Mother who knowingly puts sex offenders around her kids- responsible in my book. My not be popular but I think parents should be held to higher standards.

moo

 

[lbminnesota]

If the mother/guardian of a young child brings home a dog that has been labeled as vicious after attacking a child in the past and said dog mauls and kills her child is the dog 100% responsible?

I'd say why in the world is a dog labeled vicious allowed to roam the streets. Did the dog have a vicious sign tied around his neck for all to be forewarned? Yes, the dog is responsible.

 

[burbqueen]

I think I am being very misunderstood here. My opinion is that there is only so much information regarding the Aunt and her relationship with Sarah's murderer. More will become available, I have no doubt. Then, and only then, will I be comfortable discussing her possible "involvement", It bothers me that more attention/blame is directed to her vs Leggs. The who took Sarah, abused her, and then murdered her.

So, if it come across that I am defending the Aunt, so be it. I prefer to wait for more solid facts before making judgments against a murdered victims family. Besides, we all have our opinions/thoughts. I love diversity and discussion. I respect all and expect nothing less in return.

imho

I totally agree. I'm not ready to condem her yet, but also some people are forgetting that the news reports said that she and Leggs were broken up. So maybe she didnt know, found out and dumped the guy. It's not like he was living in the house, he kidnapped Sarah from her home. The bigger question is who was watching the kids and where was the Aunt?

If she was at work and just had someone to check on them then I wanna know more about that.

Look, I'm all for throwing her under the bus if she fully knew this creep had this stuff on his record, but really when it comes to a conviction like that I don't think he nor his family would be shouting to the roof tops about it. Leggs might have been friends with her brother or whoever, but there is no solid proof even he knew.

I've dated a guy years ago who didnt tell me one thing about his conviction. He was a nice guy, alright job, good looking. We dated for 6 months. Met his parents and friends. I dont have any kids or anything. I was about 22, he was 25. I had no clue untill we broke up a year later that at the age of 21 he was a convicted SO. He had sex with some 14yr old girl. I met a guy who knew him by coincidence. Now what 22 yr old is gonna think her b/f is a registered SO???

Also, here is the kicker, would most people without kids really care? They would ask they guy and he would say this, "well we were dating and she was too young. Her parents got mad and sent me to jail, blah, blah blah...." Most young chicks would be like, well, um, ok he's not gonna do that again. They get married have kids and bam! He's molesting the kids or family members. Or the wifey may have never even know the sicko was like that in the first place. this is how it starts.

Most people think SO are some creepy looking dude, fat, druggie, antisocial, living out of their parents basement and looking at kiddie flicks all day. Not hot guy X, who is friendly and outgoing, with a job that lives next door to you. Then there is the teenage girl who is blamed for tempting the guy in the first place. I've seen this thinking first hand!!

 

[impatientredhead]

I'd say why in the world is a dog labeled vicious allowed to roam the streets. Did the dog have a vicious sign tied around his neck for all to be forewarned?

The Aunt KNEW he was a sex offender.
He was labeled.
She was informed.

The system as it is designed worked.
I don't agree with the design but it is what we are working with.

Yes, the vicious dog was labeled, his fliers were posted.
The guardian in question knew and disregarded it.

 

[kikid]

I'd say why in the world is a dog labeled vicious allowed to roam the streets. Did the dog have a vicious sign tied around his neck for all to be forewarned?

more than likely any dog that had attacked a child would be put down. too bad we can't do the same to these animals.

 

[spclk]

Has it been stated how her sister that preceeded her in death passed away? Also, I want to know more about why the aunt had custody to begin with.

I am so sick of these kids being tossed about like disposable dolls only to end up victimized by the poor choices of their guardians. I agree with those that feel the aunt is partially to blame.....and so are her bio parents! Children are a precious gift and as a society we have got to start holding parents to a higher standard!!! These babies cannot defend themselves so else is there to do it? I know that we cannot protect them from everyone and everythning but as a parent or guardian you are responsible to make good choices and this Aunt did not!

 

[burbqueen]

I don't think the aunt dated this guy long enough to really know who he was. It would be apparent that Leggs chose this woman to go after her children.And how is that her fault ?

Full blame needs to go Leggs way he is the who took her and killed her and did probally other horrors to her and then burned her poor little body. He sucks.

He knows right from wrong he should have been put down long ago after the second time he was convicted. If anyone wants to throw blame then blame should be placed on the perp and our judical system that seems to fail our kids do to lax laws. Blame should be placed on our citizens who do not push our officals harder to make laws put in place for harsher punishments against RSO's. The list could go on.
I understand being a parent and taking more precations to keep our children safe but this day and age it is ridculous that we have to worry about our children even walking home from the bus stop with other children why is that ? That is because our system is failing and needs a revamp. The police arrest them and the judges let them go ....
Parents should be outraged everywhere and start pulling together for tougher laws where these people never get out or are put to death.
JMHO....of course

Ok, let me say this too. I am sick of the gender bias when it comes to Moms. Where in sam hill are these kids fathers?:furious:

I get so mad when the men can just drop the kid off at the moms and roam free. Some desperate woman shacks up with some creep and kills the kid and poof its all the moms fault. Where is Sarah's father? BOTH parents are the blame. If you are a man and you care about your kid you too should be wary of who your baby's momma is dating and who she is bringing around.

If a drugged out ex con is around your kids then guess what? You step up and take custody. Not bury your head in the sand or make excuses as to why you dropped your kid off with a crack head momma(yes you Brad Lockhart!). It is not my burden just cause i gave birth to a kid to be the only one responsible for it. Men get off scott free. I dont feel they should.

The who did it is to blame and if Mom, Aunt, father, whoever turned a blind eye or knew this guy had a record of sex offenses then they are all to blame IMO.

 

[lbminnesota]

The Aunt KNEW he was a sex offender.
He was labeled.
She was informed.

The system as it is designed worked.
I don't agree with the design but it is what we are working with.

Yes, the vicious dog was labeled, his fliers were posted.
The guardian in question knew and disregarded it.

Fliers were posted where? We have no idea exactly what she knew. I know my way around court documents and the sexual registry. It took me an hour to understand the specific Maryland offense codes as related to the court cases. The registry, as opposed to other states, doesn't give any specifics. If he told the aunt the same story as the ex-wife (teenager encounter while he was young adult), she didn't have the full story.

 

[impatientredhead]

Fliers were posted where? We have no idea exactly what she knew. I know my way around court documents and the sexual registry. It took me an hour to understand the specific Maryland offense codes as related to the court cases. The registry, as opposed to other states, doesn't give any specifics. If he told the aunt the same story as the ex-wife (teenager encounter while he was young adult), she didn't have the full story.

She told the police she knew he was a sex offender.

I don't think getting the details for the crime from the predator bolsters her defense. Perhaps your boyfriend being convicted of a charge that made him a registered sex offender might raise a flag that you should seek a more unbiased source of data. Especially if you have children. Call me nuts.

 

[fran]

Before I condemned this aunt, I would want to have ALL THE FACTS. Sure, this poster {below at link}, may not be on the up-and-up, but what IF she does know the family and what she says is true? Just imagine the victim's family reading all the harsh words for this poor woman. Does anyone not think this poor woman already blames herself enough?

Apparently, yes she knew he was a SO, but when did she know? That part of the story wasn't in the statement given by LE and I for one, am not going to ASSUME she dated him in spite of his SO status.


No,...... UNTIL I learn the WHOLE story, this aunt deserves nothing but sympathy and condolences for her loss. That's what she gets from me, my heartfelt condolence for her loss.

JMHO
fran



http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2526415/sarah_foxwell_found_dead_the_missing.html?cat=7

brittany
(Guest)
i think you really need to find out the whole story before you write about it... the man was not her aunts boyfriend... she broke it off with him as soon as she found out his past... therefore the aunt was a good woman looking out for her kids... dont try to blame it on her especially when you dont know what happened... reading this was very hurtful. and since you are a writer you should have known to look into the story a lot harder before you wrote something you didnt know anything about... this is how rumors get started...

Posted on 12/26/2009 at 7:12:46 PM

 

[burbqueen]

Fliers were posted where? We have no idea exactly what she knew. I know my way around court documents and the sexual registry. It took me an hour to understand the specific Maryland offense codes as related to the court cases. The registry, as opposed to other states, doesn't give any specifics. If he told the aunt the same story as the ex-wife (teenager encounter while he was young adult), she didn't have the full story.

thank you, that's what i'm saying. How in the world could she know the full details. In Texas, a SO can be labelled as such for a myriad of reasons. if she asked its not like he would tell her the truth. i just need more proof of what she knew. sex with a 16 yrd old at the age of 21 wouldnt really set off alarms for most people. you might be wary, but if you're really in love and he's a smooth talker then most people wouldnt think he would molest and kill an 11yr old.

Thanks Fran, I swear I read she broke it off with him!!