ME - Lewiston, Mass Shooting, Multiple Scenes, 18 killed *shooter found dead* Oct 2023 #2

[Leilei]

The governor's sign language interpreter was killed in the attack. I'm sure she knew him. After that hug between her and the governor, I thought both looked teary eyed and understandably so.

Sign language interpreter among those killed in Maine shootings

Several of the victims died in a restaurant at a cornhole tournament with deaf competitors.

www.bbc.com

That breaks my heart.

 

[Ilex]

I don't doubt you. I just like to read things for myself.

I think you meant this for sleepingmonkey. I didn't get your post at first.

 

[Boxer]

Maybe. I'm sure mental illness was an extremely complicating factor as well.

Paranoia.

 

[Seni]

Not a surprise. Ballgame

Listening to you munching on your hat!

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Paranoia.

I expect schizophrenia myself. But I am not a professional.

 

[Boxer]

I expect schizophrenia myself. But I am not a professional.

Yes. Agree. Both.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I think you meant this for sleepingmonkey. I didn't get your post at first.

No, it was meant for you. I (apparently mis)interpreted your post as confirming what sleepingmonkey said about him knowing the victims.

No harm, no foul.

 

[thefragile7393]

Maybe. I'm sure mental illness was an extremely complicating factor as well.

Very likely. And this just didn’t appear recently….often there’s signs and symptoms for years that just manifest as “quirks” or “weirdness” for instance. Sometimes there’s a catalyst that brings it more to the forefront and makes them more obvious and difficult to ignore or write-off.

At the same time, IMO, it played a part big time, but IMO he wasn’t what would be called “insane.” Kind of reminds me of the Luby’s shooter in Killeen, Texas or the San Ysidro McDonald’s shooter….somewhat similar perpetrators. All had Mental health issues yet not necessarily what could be termed “insane.” I’m a detached observer so a part of me wishes he were alive and in custody to get more insight on the “why.” At the same time I’m also glad there will be no trial, no housing him and wasting tax payer money, etc

 

[thefragile7393]

Paranoia.

Which is a symptom…and definitely IMO could have been easily present, given what he know about him hearing voices

 

[MassGuy]

https://x.com/connorclementtv/status/1718097949144596907?s=46&t=1LeaTK_fug_ONwN11qOyUw

https://x.com/connorclementtv/status/1718097949144596907?s=46&t=1LeaTK_fug_ONwN11qOyUw

 

[MassGuy]

BREAKING: Maine Gov. Janet Mills says the suspect wanted for killing 18 people at a bowling alley and a bar has been found dead in Lisbon Falls, Maine. Robert Card’s body was found at a recycling facility where he recently worked, an official told @AP.

https://x.com/ap/status/1718098408005615785?s=46&t=1LeaTK_fug_ONwN11qOyUw

 

[Derph]

We have to figure out what the connection is from suicidal guys ( mostly) going out and shooting up a bunch of innocent people before they off themselves. What is it that makes them commit such violent acts instead of just going out and blowing their brains out? I have no idea why but I think if we can somehow figure this out, we may be able to prevent this from happening again and again and again.

Such a colossal waste of life.

 

[Chimera]

I don't know how to call it, I just can say that not only did he kill absolutely innocent people, he left horrible inheritance to his son.

One question, though: they mentioned that allegedly he started hearing voices after his hearing aids were fitted? Can't comment on this, but given that several victims were deaf, did he know any of them, or maybe included deafness into his delusions? Besides being a mass murderer, he was a murderer who targeted people with a disability, which makes it as ugly as can be.

Bbm.
I believe that's a possibility ?
Omo.

 

[rsd1200]

I just checked the Maine weather-unseasonably warm so not bad outside but next week the nights dip below freezing so I am not convinced he would want to be out in that. The thing is: he is from the area so would know about barns, vacant housing, out buildings. I cannot imagine everyone on a lock down but I also can't imagine always thinking this guy could be under the porch or about to swipe a car. Supposedly his car was found at a boat launch... do they think he had another car? a boat? jumped in the Androscoggin ? ...that would be cold. 55F
Water temperature in Brunswick (Androscoggin River) and sea water temperature forecast in Brunswick (Androscoggin River) for the next days

BIBM

The thing is: he is from the area so would know about barns, vacant housing, out buildings.

True, so he knows his chances on the river.

 

[KNinTX]

We have to figure out what the connection is from suicidal guys ( mostly) going out and shooting up a bunch of innocent people before they off themselves. What is it that makes them commit such violent acts instead of just going out and blowing their brains out? I have no idea why but I think if we can somehow figure this out, we may be able to prevent this from happening again and again and again.

Such a colossal waste of life.

I am hesitant to generalize, but I completely agree. There is an undeniable stereotype of the people who commit these acts.

 

[sleepingmonkey]

Do you have a link to that? Thank you!

His sister in law, Katie Card told various reporters/outlets this information.

Maine shooter 'heard VOICES at bowling alley and bar'

Suspected Maine shooter Robert Card heard voices before he launched the deadly attack which killed at least 18 people, according to his sister-in-law.

www.dailymail.co.uk

'I have known Rob my whole life,' she told the Daily Beast on Thursday.

'He is quiet but the most loving, hardworking, and kind person that I know. But in the past year, he had an acute episode of mental health, and it's been a struggle.'

She added that Card told his family that he could hear voices criticizing him while he was in the bar and bowling alley.

'He truly believed he was hearing people say things,' she added. 'This all just happened within the last few months.'

 

[sleepingmonkey]

She said that Robert Card recently began wearing powerful hearing aids to combat hearing loss. Since then, Card said her brother-in-law has been insisting to his family that he can hear people bashing him—including at Just-In-Time Recreation bowling alley and Schemengees Bar and Grill, where he’s accused of gunning down 18 people on Wednesday night.

Family Reveals Suspected Gunman’s Link to Maine Massacre Sites

“He just has to reach out and do the right thing,” Robert Card’s sister-in-law told The Daily Beast.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[airportwoman]

Just before the presser, the male news anchor said that RC had been found in a dumpster. I didn't hear any mention of that in the presser. We should find tomorrow morning if that detail is accurate.

If that is true, that could explain why it took so long to find him.

 

[sleepingmonkey]

Katie Card said the family did their best to reassure Robert Card that the comments were not real, including by verifying with some of the people he claimed had made the remarks. But, she said, “it turned into a manic belief.”

Family of Maine shooting suspect says his mental health had deteriorated rapidly

The family of the Army reservist accused of fatally shooting more than a dozen people in Lewiston, Maine, alerted police and military officials that he was experiencing an “acute” mental health episode before the Wednesday night massacre, the suspect’s sister-in-law said.

www.nbcconnecticut.com

 

[sleepingmonkey]

His sister-in-law told The Daily Beast Card claimed that new hearing aids allowed him to hear people at Schemengees Bar & Grille ‘bashing’ him.

The bar was the scene of the second shooting and had been hosting a cornhole tournament for the ‘tight-knit’ deaf community, which he had also competed in.

Maine gunman 'may have been targeting deaf friends in revenge attack'

Sources said Card’s family has been giving officers an insight into the mind of what is said to be a deeply troubled person.

metro.co.uk