DeeDee249, you have added more ideas that you believe prove Patsy did not see Joni's hands when she dropped down on her body (as the police report says.) Nothing you offer proves that or comes anywhere close to being able to draw that conclusion. Don't you understand that?
Of course I do. But the way the scene in that living room has been described to me (in several books as well as reading Det. Arndt's testimony) and in viewing the autopsy photos, her hands would not have been visible.
It is a conclusion that I am drawing based on what I have read and seen. I don't expect to be able to prove it to anyone- how could I? To prove it, there would have to be a photo of Patsy on the body and that doesn't exist as far as we know.
To ME, it is the only conclusion I can draw. When I state my ideas, I TRY not to use the word "prove" because, really, I can't prove it.
I certainly believe the police report that Patsy threw herself on her daughter's body. But as you said, I BELIEVE (not KNOW, not CAN PROVE) that if JB's body was covered the way it has been described, and her hands were the way they appear in the autopsy photo where she is still on the rug, then her hands would not have been visible to anyone, not just to Patsy.
I am not the only one who feels this way and I can't change the way I feel.
My apologies - though I have posted what I read about the fiber evidence and Dr. Lee's comments about it, I did not specifically post it to you, so you may have missed it. And I sometimes forget that newer posters may not have read all the threads on this forum and so are unaware of the extent that some things have been discussed previously.
Let's be honest here- many of us posting here have probably more than one theory of how this night unfolded. We each draw our own conclusions (I can't in all honesty say I have just one conclusion). We have to agree to disagree.