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Well wow. There are so many far out theories here I'm surprised there isn't one about aliens.

True crime scholars always say the most logical, sensible answer is usually correct. It's more fun to believe something bizarre and convoluted, but it's rarely ever true.

We already know for a fact that the ransom letter is long and extremely superfluous. There is absolutely no reason for a kidnapper to risk discovery by searching through the home for a pad of paper and then writing a much-longer-than-needed letter - after also spending time to practice it first a few times. That just defies logic. In a true kidnapping, the note would already be written. But this child is lying dead in the home - so why is a ransom letter even needed? If I'm the perp, I'm getting out as fast as possible.

The guilty often expound way more than necessary, especially when panicked. The ransom letter is a clear example of that. Anyone who has studied the personality of PR knows the whole letter (including the handwriting) screams of her. I won't even go into the ridiculousness of "a small foreign faction".

So it's obvious Patsy wrote the letter. There is just no other option. None. And if she wrote it, she must be guilty. Nobody wants to believe a mother could kill her child and that is why all the silly theories abound. But it does happen. Just look around at other cases on Websleuths.

The "Burke did it" club isn't realistic. He was 9 years old. Maybe he could be mean, maybe. Maybe he was disturbed, maybe. But there are very few documented cases of a child murderer that demonic and calculating. If he was prone to bashing JB in the head so hard that she could die, there would have been many other disturbing anger incidents in the past that others would have seen. It's very, very difficult to hit somebody hard enough to crater a large hole and very wide crack in their skull. I couldn't do it. A 9-year-old couldn't do it. (I was going to include the photo here but it is graphic - google JonBenet skull).

Was JB sexually molested prior to her death? Maybe. That doesn't change the fact that Patsy wrote the letter.

Is there unaccounted for DNA? Yes, but that seems to be controversial and was so slight it could be innocent and inconsequential contact with others in the past or transferred from other clothing.
DNA in doubt: New analysis challenges DA's exoneration of Ramseys

If there had been NO ransom letter, I would be more inclined to believe in an intruder. But the letter is what points to Patsy.

Zzzz,
The case might be any one of PDI, JDI, BDI or some combination thereof.

Was JB sexually molested prior to her death? Maybe. That doesn't change the fact that Patsy wrote the letter.
Just because Patsy wrote the letter it does not follow she killed JonBenet, just as JR's fibers found on JonBenet's crotch does not mean he killed JonBenet either.

JonBenet was sexually assaulted prior to her death, three doctors opined so including the Coroner.

Nearly everyone buys into the wine-cellar crime-scene then go sleuthing, but the wine-cellar and basement was staged to offer an account or narrative about JonBenet's death, so most of the clues left behind are fake, a bit like Donald Trump's Fake News.

Bottom line is the parents might have been staging for Burke, maybe Burke had a friend staying overnight who would be dropped off by the parents en-route to the airport, maybe he liked Coke and playing Lego, who knows?

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My Theory:
Nothing in this case reads logically. I've read every page, every post, in this thread (and all the others), every article, news feed, report, pictures, anything I could find. Honestly, I doubt it's close to all of it that's out there after 20+ years.

In most theories I see components that I agree and others I don't. We don't and probably wont know the whole truth of that night. I believe JR is the only one left who knows it.

Intruder doesn't only imply "someone broke into the home". An intruder can be someone who forces their way into the home or gains access to the home with ill intent via persuasion or illusion.

I think JR, his business, his knowledge, whatever, was the reason she died that night. Someone else came to the house, after the party, and they let them in. The person was uninvited, but they got in the house because JR/PR knew them or with use of threat of harm. They entered with the intent of hurting JR, blackmailing JR, or obtaining information from JR. What happened next, I dont know and wont waste energy inventing a story.

JBR was collateral damage of this. JR & PR reacted protectively, as most people believe, but I dont believe it was to protect just BR... or BR from "what he had done". I believe it was to protect the surviving family members from further, still viable, threats.

If you step back from the "BR did it" theory of parents protecting their child by staging a horrific scene using their other child's body... you're only left with protecting themselves (could be as a family unit or just JR). If they (the parents) didnt kill JBR, why would they need protection? If JR tried to trade knowledge or money for his daughter's (or family's) life that night, he couldn't share that. He wouldn't share that if it meant his other family members could die.

Another key concern I have is about the ransom note:
They were worth a lot more money that a silly bonus of $100k and some change. Just stepping into the home, seeing the home from the outside, spoke to that level of financial ability. If I were to fake a ransom note, that I wrote to myself, and make a demand for "my" money, I would aim it towards making an impact on my real wealth. Why wouldn't PR/JR ask for 2.5 million for their daughter, knowing their own financial standing? The bonus was nothing compared to what their value was and they, especially JR, would not have devalued his worth, or his daughter's life, by listing that small amount. It's illogical.

Reasons I disagree with BR theories, which I am sharing because it enforces my theory (at least for me).

1. As a parent, a child still breathing... is a child you can save. No parent decides "this one is badly damaged, let's save that one instead". That is beyond illogical in my mind. She may have been beyond saving, but as a parent you don't risk that chance, and as a parent you cling to hope. You call 911 and risk all to save your child.

2. The staging of the crime scene was so elaborate and vicious that it doesnt fit the idea of a parent "staging a scene to protect the other child". You see your son having hit her so hard she won't wake up and you panic. So you lay her at the foot of the stairs, call 911, and claim she fell. You wouldn't fake a sexual assault, kidnapping w/ ransom note, garrote her and watch her body stop breathing. Which, who ever did the garotte, felt, saw, and heard her last breath leave her body.

3. I believe BR is autistic. I believe that explains his weirdness and that raises people's concerns about him as he doesn't come accros "normal".

4. In the interview with Dr. P, BR states he stayed in bed, unsure if his father was fighting off an intruder. This statement, which was off handed by BR, rings logical and true to me. More so than any other comment I've seen or read in this case about that night. That was a real fear, of a 9 year old child, as he hid in his bed. Someone was in that house and BR heard something that led him to believe his father was arguing or fighting this person.

PR didn't change her clothes because she never went to bed. They never went to bed.

PR could have been ordered to write the note by this person(s) as they dictated it. This would be a power play against JR. The entire note was aimed at belittling JR and attacking him. The purpose would of been to knock him off his high horse. Put him in his place anddevalue him.

This is a very loose part/question in my theory:
JR and one investigator searched the house prior to the 1:05 point where she was found in the windowless room. I read that the investigator couldn't get into the room or dismissed it (varying reports) due to their being no windows thatthe intruder could of used. Then JR searched it in AM hours, and neither found JBR. Normally when kids go missing they search entire houses, neighborhoods, ect. as often times they are safe/misplaced or hiding.

They allowed anyone the parents wanted into that house prior to her body being found. They were waiting for a call... not looking for anything or really at anyone's whereabouts/ behaviors during this time.

Could her body not have been there the first 2 searches? Could someone of snuck the body in past the few officers ? Again, speculation. The house had 9 doors to the outside, even JR states they were often left unlocked in an interview. There were 104 windows with 100 facing outside. The house was 7,000 sqft. Could it have been breached with friends and police onsite? Could the intruder theory and facts surrounding that point to someone breaking in to deliver her to that room and then exiting versus using that avenue to take her duringthe night?

Why I don't believe JR had anything to do with hurting his child, staging the scene, or that he even knew she was dead when he found her:

JR found JBR and immediately undid the crime scene by reacting exactly as you'd expect a parent to do. You wouldn't think, you would just react. John Douglas, in his book, describes this action as one of a parent finding their child in a horrible situation, reacting like a normal parent would. You wouldn't set a grand, staged scene for the sake of telling a story and then dismantle it before the story is told to the appropriate people. John Douglas uses these points in stating he didn't believe JR staged it.

If you go so far as to argue JR's response was calculated and planned, then you revert to a 8 hour time frame of
1. Getting home
2. Accident/murder
3. Planning the scenario to support the staging
4. staging the scene itself
5. Creating the ransom note which took 21 mins just to copy... let alone dictate
6. Discuss how to handle everything else and
7. Start the process.

No one is that much of a mastermind in the face of an accident, malicious or not.

This man wasn't a murderer, he had never staged a crime, and if the murder was an accident, it's harder to believe he was capable of weaving such a mastered plan of behavior and actions.

Within 40 minutes of finding her body, JR tries to leave with his family. Odd behavior. Period. His daughter is dead. Shouldn't he want to help solve it? Odd unless he felt it was unsafe for the to stay and he knew the "why" behind the "who". The threat was still very much alive and he wanted his family far away. What if he had given them what they wanted and they still killed his child and tried to frame him?

But honestly, I dont know. I dont dismiss anyone else's theories. This case is so sad. There are some people who are just "bad people" and they do horrendous things that don't fit what we would believe someone capable. I just don't personally see any evidence of these parents, or BR, of having any history of this type of behavior in anything I've read or heard. I also can't justify choosing to stop your child breathing in hope of protecting your other child. Breathing is life and they would of fought to keep it.

Please forgive any typos or grammar. My phone had a mind of it's own and is out to prove me illiterate.

Thank you for reading.
(Edited for phone rudeness)
 
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Any theory needs to identify the real crux of this case; The SNAFU by the Boulder Police Department.

1. The lack of control over the scene from the minute the police became involved.
2. The crime scene was never secured, even after JB's body was found.
3. The entire cluster regarding not getting key information and timelines from all involved, before they had time to obtain attorneys and collaborate to make sure all of the stories were consistent.

Any theory needs to really address the fact that the Boulder PD really dropped the ball here, from minute one. It shows a department rife with bullying, because junior officers were literally afraid to contact senior officers, on a holiday. They were afraid of being in trouble. The clues that should have alerted junior officers:

1. Affluent family
2. Missing child
3. Holiday

I believe that the perpetrator was known to the family, not unlike the situation in the Elizabeth Smart case, which is similar in many respects,
1. Affluence
2. Public presence in media prior to kidnapping/murder
3. Host to many parties
4. Workers common in home for various reasons.
5. Lack of a dog. I believe that this is a key element in many child abductions. A perpetrator has already scoped out the subject and environment, noting that there is no prescence of an alert dog to create a problem. Even a small ankle biter would have barked up a storm in either situation.

Since both of those situations, my family has become more aware of security, threats, and solutions. I won't detail what we have determined, but we did consult with a former FBI agent for a consultation, and it was well worth the money.
 
I have been interested in solving missing persons and homicide cases for years, in hopes of helping bring closure to victims of serious crimes and their families. I thought I may have identified the killer of Jon Benet Ransey, and years ago gave my information to law enforcement, who I never heard from. I also had the chance to meet with John Ramsey at that time, who was very interested in what I had found and I shared what I had uncovered with him. I gave him copies of everything I found. He at that time thought that I might have had something as he thought there was a Lockheed Martin connection. . As nothing ever came of it that I am aware of, I am interested in sharing what I did conclude with all of you To hear your thoughts.. Here it is: At the time that Jon Benet was murdered, she was as many of you know, a girl who appeared in a large number of beauty pageants. On the night before she was found murdered, Patsy Ramsey gave her daughter a My Twinn Doll that was a replica of JonBent. My daughter was the same age as JonBenet at the time of her murder. I had also ordered coincidentally a My Twinn Doll for my own daughter that never arrived for the holidays. At the time I recalled being concerned that a pedophile could have photographs of my daughter (one sent in photographs to have a doll made to resemble your own child), our address, and the doll. That made me very uncomfortable. I notified My Twinn which was at the time based in Littleton Colorado. They did not know what happened to the doll and the one I ordered was never sent. At the time JonBenet Ramsey was murdered I originally believed that a pedophile who worked at the company which was not far from where the Ramseys lived, might have been responsible for her murder. I tried at that time to research all employees who worked there but they hired a great deal of temporary employees and it was impossible. I did however, in doing my research, come across a man who was going through a divorce in a neighboring state to Colorado. I came across him in a search for dolls that were replicas of girls. I will not put down the state I came across him here ,to not identify this individual since he has not been charged with anything and may be totally innocent. At the time of his divorce the man was earning the same salary that was asked for in the ransom note for JonBenet. (I believe it was $116,000. It could be $118,000 as it has been a long time since I read about the case,, but he earned the same amount that was asked for in the ransom note). My research indicate that this man had worked for Lockkeed Martin which was the parent company of Access Graphics where John Ramsey worked. I also read in divorce papers that this man got fired from Lockheed Martin or was let go and he tried to search for 500 jobs, and he was never able to get hired. At the time I wondered if this man could have had a vendetta against John Ramsey. Perhaps he was upset that John Ramsey earned as his Christmas bonus that year, the same amount that that he earned as his yearly salary which he had now lost. I then researched the ransom note and read it through clearly. I recalled it said something like John, you are not the only fat cat in town. As the man had the same first name, I thought he was saying, John, we both share you name. The letter was signed S.B.T.C. I always thought that that represented Subic Bay Training center where both this man and John Ramsey I was able to determine both served around the same time. The men were also about the same age.I also studied the knots on the garrote and I researched that many fly fishermen used this type of knot. This man, I then researched had won fly fishing competitions. Fly fishermen also often wear Hi Tech boots of the type found in the impressions they had from JB's murder.This is just speculation but there was a fly fisherman competition that this man attended at the time Renee Hatfield disappeared from her bedroom window and I wondered if he was connected. This could all be coincidence and I may just have uncovered things that appear to be connected but really are not. I also would never want to accuse someone of a crime that they did not commit. But I have always wondered. Because I know the state where this man moved to shortly after he divorced, I always imagined going up to that state and having a drink with him and getting his fingerprints, but never did. Still I have always wondered about whether I was right. I believe whoever killed JonBenet Ramsey was someone who had a personal vendetta against John Ramsey as well as the fact that he was a pedophile. We will never know who killed JonBenet, but I wanted to share my theory.
 
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3. I believe BR is autistic. I believe that explains his weirdness and that raises people's concerns about him as he doesn't come accros "normal".
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Wow. You should really think about the words you are sharing in a public forum before hitting the post button.
 
I believe my only mistake in my post is that I didn't add the marks around "weirdness" as these comments are not my comments... but things I've read said about him. My point is that he isn't a murderer because he comes across as any of these "adjectives" . BR comes across as having a form of autism that I've seen and interacted with... which is why I gave my opinion on it. This individual I know is often referred to as "creepy", "rude", "weird", and "not normal" by those who don't understand that this individual's brain works entirely different than most people's. I would not assign these words to them but others do, regularly.

Luckily, we don't have a system of convicting people because they are not our sense of "normal" or are perceived as being "weird" by other people.

I provided what logically made sense to me in this case based on my perception of the world and the facts that I am aware of.
While I would never willingly post something that would offend, especially on this subject matter, I also am very aware of the fact that certain people look to be offended.
Take it as you will. I can't control other's perceptions or offenses and surely don't want the job of trying too.
 
I believe my only mistake in my post is that I didn't add the marks around "weirdness" as these comments are not my comments... but things I've read said about him. My point is that he isn't a murderer because he comes across as any of these "adjectives" . BR comes across as having a form of autism that I've seen and interacted with... which is why I gave my opinion on it. This individual I know is often referred to as "creepy", "rude", "weird", and "not normal" by those who don't understand that this individual's brain works entirely different than most people's. I would not assign these words to them but others do, regularly.

Luckily, we don't have a system of convicting people because they are not our sense of "normal" or are perceived as being "weird" by other people.

I provided what logically made sense to me in this case based on my perception of the world and the facts that I am aware of.
While I would never willingly post something that would offend, especially on this subject matter, I also am very aware of the fact that certain people look to be offended.
Take it as you will. I can't control other's perceptions or offenses and surely don't want the job of trying too.

BR is socially awkward. His smiling is from nervousness. He holds a job that probably pays more than the grand majority of people here make, he lives on his own, and last I checked, is in a relationship. His nervousness in one (I stress, one) interview, that he knew would be televised in front of millions of people, doesn't prove he's "autistic" or "bi-polar" or "has asperger's" or any other label arm-chair psychologists want to throw at him. It's a bit ludicrous to assume you can differentiate and pin down the exact "ailment" BR "suffers from" based on one interview (and not even a face-to-face interview, but a TV interview, at that), when you're not even trained in the field to begin with. Simply knowing or working with someone who is autistic does not qualify you. This will probably sound harsh, but it's the truth.
 
Userid, that isn't harsh feedback at all. But, you seem to take offense to someone being labeled as autistic or suffering from mood disorders... that IS kind of harsh.

You also go on to say someone with bi-polar or autism would not have relationships, live on their own, or earn good money? This is a very outdated comment in my opinion and an even weaker argument.

This post was me stating what "My Theory" is. The title of this thread is "Members' Theories". Also, no where in my post do I try to validate "My Theory" by providing an actual diagnosis or do I even go so far as to provide examples of why I believe I've seen such behavior before and can disregard the many comments on his behaviors.

The thread asks for our theories, I provided that.
 
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Userid, that isn't harsh feedback at all. But, you seem to take offense to someone being labeled as autistic or suffering from mood disorders... that IS kind of harsh.

You also go on to say someone with bi-polar or autism would not have relationships, live on their own, or earn good money? This is a very outdated comment in my opinion and an even weaker argument.

This post was me stating what "My Theory" is. The title of this thread is "Members' Theories". Also, no where in my post do I try to validate "My Theory" by providing an actual diagnosis or do I even go so far as to provide examples of why I believe I've seen such behavior before and can disregard the many comments on his behaviors.

The thread asks for our theories, I provided that.

I’m interested to read all theories. This isn’t about taking offence, it’s about reading comments linking autism and “being weird”. It’s the 21st century, we know better than this.
 
Userid, that isn't harsh feedback at all. But, you seem to take offense to someone being labeled as autistic or suffering from mood disorders... that IS kind of harsh.

You also go on to say someone with bi-polar or autism would not have relationships, live on their own, or earn good money? This is a very outdated comment in my opinion and an even weaker argument.

This post was me stating what "My Theory" is. The title of this thread is "Members' Theories". Also, no where in my post do I try to validate "My Theory" by providing an actual diagnosis or do I even go so far as to provide examples of why I believe I've seen such behavior before and can disregard the many comments on his behaviors.

The thread asks for our theories, I provided that.

That doesn't make sense, actually. How would that be "harsh"? I'd say it's harsher to label people autistic on a whim and without merit. Regardless, you're wrong: I'm not offended that you've labeled BR autistic; I'm more "offended" (for lack of a better word) at the gall I've seen from people to make such an accusation based on one interview and without the proper education to base such a conclusion. It's a matter of "annoyance" for me, as opposed to an "offense."

I only brought up those facts (and they are facts; much stronger than "oh, he was laughing in an interview, so he must be autistic" -- if you want to talk about weak evidence/arguments) because that is the tract you started with your theory that he's autistic. I don't mean to imply that there aren't people who are bi-polar and who can't have relationships or hold down jobs, etc., but at the same time, it's all any of us have to go on with regard to this particular individual (BR). The spectrum of such disorders is broad, obviously -- and incredibly complicated to diagnose, particularly in the spectrum that focuses in the lower level of severity, into which you seem to be delving and in which you really have no genuine expertise.
 
I didn't state I was an expert nor did I claim I was correct in my theory. I just stated my theory. I actually stated "I don't know"...

But honestly, I dont know. I dont dismiss anyone else's theories. This case is so sad.

So sorry you're annoyed but that also occurs regularly on a message board. Some of us choose not to argue over every thing we disagree with or are annoyed by. I tried clarifying to both people who responded to me and to little avail as their "annoyance" kept them arguing. Now I'm done :)
 
I didn't state I was an expert nor did I claim I was correct in my theory. I just stated my theory. I actually stated "I don't know"...



So sorry you're annoyed but that also occurs regularly on a message board. Some of us choose not to argue over every thing we disagree with or are annoyed by. I tried clarifying to both people who responded to me and to little avail as their "annoyance" kept them arguing. Now I'm done :)

You can call it "arguing," I would call it simply "disagreeing," which is also common on a message board. To each their own.
 
I have been interested in solving missing persons and homicide cases for years, in hopes of helping bring closure to victims of serious crimes and their families. I thought I may have identified the killer of Jon Benet Ransey, and years ago gave my information to law enforcement, who I never heard from. I also had the chance to meet with John Ramsey at that time, who was very interested in what I had found and I shared what I had uncovered with him. I gave him copies of everything I found. He at that time thought that I might have had something as he thought there was a Lockheed Martin connection. . As nothing ever came of it that I am aware of, I am interested in sharing what I did conclude with all of you To hear your thoughts.. Here it is: At the time that Jon Benet was murdered, she was as many of you know, a girl who appeared in a large number of beauty pageants. On the night before she was found murdered, Patsy Ramsey gave her daughter a My Twinn Doll that was a replica of JonBent. My daughter was the same age as JonBenet at the time of her murder. I had also ordered coincidentally a My Twinn Doll for my own daughter that never arrived for the holidays. At the time I recalled being concerned that a pedophile could have photographs of my daughter (one sent in photographs to have a doll made to resemble your own child), our address, and the doll. That made me very uncomfortable. I notified My Twinn which was at the time based in Littleton Colorado. They did not know what happened to the doll and the one I ordered was never sent. At the time JonBenet Ramsey was murdered I originally believed that a pedophile who worked at the company which was not far from where the Ramseys lived, might have been responsible for her murder. I tried at that time to research all employees who worked there but they hired a great deal of temporary employees and it was impossible. I did however, in doing my research, come across a man who was going through a divorce in a neighboring state to Colorado. I came across him in a search for dolls that were replicas of girls. I will not put down the state I came across him here ,to not identify this individual since he has not been charged with anything and may be totally innocent. At the time of his divorce the man was earning the same salary that was asked for in the ransom note for JonBenet. (I believe it was $116,000. It could be $118,000 as it has been a long time since I read about the case,, but he earned the same amount that was asked for in the ransom note). My research indicate that this man had worked for Lockkeed Martin which was the parent company of Access Graphics where John Ramsey worked. I also read in divorce papers that this man got fired from Lockheed Martin or was let go and he tried to search for 500 jobs, and he was never able to get hired. At the time I wondered if this man could have had a vendetta against John Ramsey. Perhaps he was upset that John Ramsey earned as his Christmas bonus that year, the same amount that that he earned as his yearly salary which he had now lost. I then researched the ransom note and read it through clearly. I recalled it said something like John, you are not the only fat cat in town. As the man had the same first name, I thought he was saying, John, we both share you name. The letter was signed S.B.T.C. I always thought that that represented Subic Bay Training center where both this man and John Ramsey I was able to determine both served around the same time. The men were also about the same age.I also studied the knots on the garrote and I researched that many fly fishermen used this type of knot. This man, I then researched had won fly fishing competitions. Fly fishermen also often wear Hi Tech boots of the type found in the impressions they had from JB's murder.This is just speculation but there was a fly fisherman competition that this man attended at the time Renee Hatfield disappeared from her bedroom window and I wondered if he was connected. This could all be coincidence and I may just have uncovered things that appear to be connected but really are not. I also would never want to accuse someone of a crime that they did not commit. But I have always wondered. Because I know the state where this man moved to shortly after he divorced, I always imagined going up to that state and having a drink with him and getting his fingerprints, but never did. Still I have always wondered about whether I was right. I believe whoever killed JonBenet Ramsey was someone who had a personal vendetta against John Ramsey as well as the fact that he was a pedophile. We will never know who killed JonBenet, but I wanted to share my theory.

I read your post. It is interesting. The question I have is, you said you found him when searching dolls made to replicate girls. What did you find? How was he related to that search? Was he working for that company where they ordered the doll? It doesn't appear that is the case, based on your post. Also, I never would have questioned sending in a pic of my child and my address. But, it's true. That is pretty private information to get into anyone's hands. Moreover, it wouldn't even have to be an employee of that company to get the information. It could be anyone who can gain access into their network!
 
My Theory:
Nothing in this case reads logically. I've read every page, every post, in this thread (and all the others), every article, news feed, report, pictures, anything I could find. Honestly, I doubt it's close to all of it that's out there after 20+ years.

In most theories I see components that I agree and others I don't. We don't and probably wont know the whole truth of that night. I believe JR is the only one left who knows it.

Intruder doesn't only imply "someone broke into the home". An intruder can be someone who forces their way into the home or gains access to the home with ill intent via persuasion or illusion.

I think JR, his business, his knowledge, whatever, was the reason she died that night. Someone else came to the house, after the party, and they let them in. The person was uninvited, but they got in the house because JR/PR knew them or with use of threat of harm. They entered with the intent of hurting JR, blackmailing JR, or obtaining information from JR. What happened next, I dont know and wont waste energy inventing a story.

JBR was collateral damage of this. JR & PR reacted protectively, as most people believe, but I dont believe it was to protect just BR... or BR from "what he had done". I believe it was to protect the surviving family members from further, still viable, threats.

If you step back from the "BR did it" theory of parents protecting their child by staging a horrific scene using their other child's body... you're only left with protecting themselves (could be as a family unit or just JR). If they (the parents) didnt kill JBR, why would they need protection? If JR tried to trade knowledge or money for his daughter's (or family's) life that night, he couldn't share that. He wouldn't share that if it meant his other family members could die.

Another key concern I have is about the ransom note:
They were worth a lot more money that a silly bonus of $100k and some change. Just stepping into the home, seeing the home from the outside, spoke to that level of financial ability. If I were to fake a ransom note, that I wrote to myself, and make a demand for "my" money, I would aim it towards making an impact on my real wealth. Why wouldn't PR/JR ask for 2.5 million for their daughter, knowing their own financial standing? The bonus was nothing compared to what their value was and they, especially JR, would not have devalued his worth, or his daughter's life, by listing that small amount. It's illogical.

Reasons I disagree with BR theories, which I am sharing because it enforces my theory (at least for me).

1. As a parent, a child still breathing... is a child you can save. No parent decides "this one is badly damaged, let's save that one instead". That is beyond illogical in my mind. She may have been beyond saving, but as a parent you don't risk that chance, and as a parent you cling to hope. You call 911 and risk all to save your child.

2. The staging of the crime scene was so elaborate and vicious that it doesnt fit the idea of a parent "staging a scene to protect the other child". You see your son having hit her so hard she won't wake up and you panic. So you lay her at the foot of the stairs, call 911, and claim she fell. You wouldn't fake a sexual assault, kidnapping w/ ransom note, garrote her and watch her body stop breathing. Which, who ever did the garotte, felt, saw, and heard her last breath leave her body.

3. I believe BR is autistic. I believe that explains his weirdness and that raises people's concerns about him as he doesn't come accros "normal".

4. In the interview with Dr. P, BR states he stayed in bed, unsure if his father was fighting off an intruder. This statement, which was off handed by BR, rings logical and true to me. More so than any other comment I've seen or read in this case about that night. That was a real fear, of a 9 year old child, as he hid in his bed. Someone was in that house and BR heard something that led him to believe his father was arguing or fighting this person.

PR didn't change her clothes because she never went to bed. They never went to bed.

PR could have been ordered to write the note by this person(s) as they dictated it. This would be a power play against JR. The entire note was aimed at belittling JR and attacking him. The purpose would of been to knock him off his high horse. Put him in his place anddevalue him.

This is a very loose part/question in my theory:
JR and one investigator searched the house prior to the 1:05 point where she was found in the windowless room. I read that the investigator couldn't get into the room or dismissed it (varying reports) due to their being no windows thatthe intruder could of used. Then JR searched it in AM hours, and neither found JBR. Normally when kids go missing they search entire houses, neighborhoods, ect. as often times they are safe/misplaced or hiding.

They allowed anyone the parents wanted into that house prior to her body being found. They were waiting for a call... not looking for anything or really at anyone's whereabouts/ behaviors during this time.

Could her body not have been there the first 2 searches? Could someone of snuck the body in past the few officers ? Again, speculation. The house had 9 doors to the outside, even JR states they were often left unlocked in an interview. There were 104 windows with 100 facing outside. The house was 7,000 sqft. Could it have been breached with friends and police onsite? Could the intruder theory and facts surrounding that point to someone breaking in to deliver her to that room and then exiting versus using that avenue to take her duringthe night?

Why I don't believe JR had anything to do with hurting his child, staging the scene, or that he even knew she was dead when he found her:

JR found JBR and immediately undid the crime scene by reacting exactly as you'd expect a parent to do. You wouldn't think, you would just react. John Douglas, in his book, describes this action as one of a parent finding their child in a horrible situation, reacting like a normal parent would. You wouldn't set a grand, staged scene for the sake of telling a story and then dismantle it before the story is told to the appropriate people. John Douglas uses these points in stating he didn't believe JR staged it.

If you go so far as to argue JR's response was calculated and planned, then you revert to a 8 hour time frame of
1. Getting home
2. Accident/murder
3. Planning the scenario to support the staging
4. staging the scene itself
5. Creating the ransom note which took 21 mins just to copy... let alone dictate
6. Discuss how to handle everything else and
7. Start the process.

No one is that much of a mastermind in the face of an accident, malicious or not.

This man wasn't a murderer, he had never staged a crime, and if the murder was an accident, it's harder to believe he was capable of weaving such a mastered plan of behavior and actions.

Within 40 minutes of finding her body, JR tries to leave with his family. Odd behavior. Period. His daughter is dead. Shouldn't he want to help solve it? Odd unless he felt it was unsafe for the to stay and he knew the "why" behind the "who". The threat was still very much alive and he wanted his family far away. What if he had given them what they wanted and they still killed his child and tried to frame him?

But honestly, I dont know. I dont dismiss anyone else's theories. This case is so sad. There are some people who are just "bad people" and they do horrendous things that don't fit what we would believe someone capable. I just don't personally see any evidence of these parents, or BR, of having any history of this type of behavior in anything I've read or heard. I also can't justify choosing to stop your child breathing in hope of protecting your other child. Breathing is life and they would of fought to keep it.

Please forgive any typos or grammar. My phone had a mind of it's own and is out to prove me illiterate.

Thank you for reading.
(Edited for phone rudeness)

I don't at all agree with your paragraphs regarding JR. IMO he did not act like a parent would when he found her body. No way.

1-He carried her body up the steps away from himself. IMO most fathers would have hugged her to their body or cradled her to carry her up the steps.

2- He asked if she was dead when she was so obviously dead.

3- He tries to get a flight of town right after finding her

4--He leaves her alone in that house for hours until the coroner removes her

5-- Shows no concern for BR's safety at anytime during that day

After that day:

Reports a fake robbery and beating at his new house in Atlanta claiming the robber came in through the basement. Once again no working security system. Now if I had a child murdered in my home you better believe my next house would have a state of the art security system.
 
John Douglas holds a lot of weight in my eyes...

"Douglas said he believes "in my heart and my mind" that the Ramseys played no role in their daughter's death, and he agreed with attorneys' decision not to subject the Ramseys to interviews or polygraphs. He said it is possible guilt-ridden parents might appear to be lying about the death of their child."
http://articles.mcall.com/1997-03-11/news/3129122_1_jonbenet-ramsey-patsy-ramsey-john-ramsey

"...in 1997, former FBI profiler John Douglas was hired by the Ramseys attorneys to help in a possible legal defense. At first, Douglas, too, doubted their innocence.

John Douglas, former FBI profiler hired by the Ramseys: The news that was coming out over the air it seemed as if the family was responsible.

But then, in January 1997, Douglas conducted a four hour interview with the Ramseys. Days later, he shared his impressions with Dateline, noting he was immediately struck by the couple’s description of the moment John found JonBenet’s body.

Douglas: And everyone hears him screaming and running upstairs “My god! My baby!” and he grabs the child and removes the duct tape and carries the child upstairs where they’re trying to resuscitate the child.

The Ramseys described to Douglas the horrific details of what they said happened in those next few frantic moments.

Douglas: It was a real emotional scene for the family, putting the child in front of the Christmas tree as they’re trying to rub the skin, the body is cold, the mother’s hysterical, the father’s hysterical, the minister is there, neighbors running in and out, so there really isn’t a crime scene...

The desperate rescue attempt, which completely contaminated any evidence at the scene, painted a picture of a family in agony, Douglas said, and he told Dateline this week that he couldn’t believe the Ramseys he encountered in his interview were capable of such brutality.

Douglas: And here is a young child, such force cracking her skull. This is not a crime of parents. Parents certainly kill. But not these kinds of parents.

Indeed, Douglas says, even when parents commit murder, it’s not usually as horrific as the scene at the Ramsey’s.

Douglas: When parents kill, there’s generally a softening of the crime scene. Where they take a blanket, cover up the child, roll the child over, face down or something like that. The child was found, JonBenet was face up. Her hands were tied together. Her head was off to the side. She had a piece of duct tape over her mouth.

And now, looking back nine and half years later, Douglas can’t shake the conclusions he first made about the case:

Douglas: I came to a very quick resolution that they’re barking up the wrong tree. This investigation is going in the wrong direction here."
Who killed JonBenet?
 
John Douglas holds a lot of weight in my eyes...

"Douglas said he believes "in my heart and my mind" that the Ramseys played no role in their daughter's death, and he agreed with attorneys' decision not to subject the Ramseys to interviews or polygraphs. He said it is possible guilt-ridden parents might appear to be lying about the death of their child."
http://articles.mcall.com/1997-03-11/news/3129122_1_jonbenet-ramsey-patsy-ramsey-john-ramsey

"...in 1997, former FBI profiler John Douglas was hired by the Ramseys attorneys to help in a possible legal defense. At first, Douglas, too, doubted their innocence.

John Douglas, former FBI profiler hired by the Ramseys: The news that was coming out over the air it seemed as if the family was responsible.

But then, in January 1997, Douglas conducted a four hour interview with the Ramseys. Days later, he shared his impressions with Dateline, noting he was immediately struck by the couple’s description of the moment John found JonBenet’s body.

Douglas: And everyone hears him screaming and running upstairs “My god! My baby!” and he grabs the child and removes the duct tape and carries the child upstairs where they’re trying to resuscitate the child.

The Ramseys described to Douglas the horrific details of what they said happened in those next few frantic moments.

Douglas: It was a real emotional scene for the family, putting the child in front of the Christmas tree as they’re trying to rub the skin, the body is cold, the mother’s hysterical, the father’s hysterical, the minister is there, neighbors running in and out, so there really isn’t a crime scene...

The desperate rescue attempt, which completely contaminated any evidence at the scene, painted a picture of a family in agony, Douglas said, and he told Dateline this week that he couldn’t believe the Ramseys he encountered in his interview were capable of such brutality.

Douglas: And here is a young child, such force cracking her skull. This is not a crime of parents. Parents certainly kill. But not these kinds of parents.

Indeed, Douglas says, even when parents commit murder, it’s not usually as horrific as the scene at the Ramsey’s.

Douglas: When parents kill, there’s generally a softening of the crime scene. Where they take a blanket, cover up the child, roll the child over, face down or something like that. The child was found, JonBenet was face up. Her hands were tied together. Her head was off to the side. She had a piece of duct tape over her mouth.

And now, looking back nine and half years later, Douglas can’t shake the conclusions he first made about the case:

Douglas: I came to a very quick resolution that they’re barking up the wrong tree. This investigation is going in the wrong direction here."
Who killed JonBenet?

Rhabidosa,
John Douglas is like any other Expert Witness he will furnish you with the opinion you pay for.

.
 
John Douglas holds a lot of weight in my eyes...

"Douglas said he believes "in my heart and my mind" that the Ramseys played no role in their daughter's death, and he agreed with attorneys' decision not to subject the Ramseys to interviews or polygraphs. He said it is possible guilt-ridden parents might appear to be lying about the death of their child."
http://articles.mcall.com/1997-03-11/news/3129122_1_jonbenet-ramsey-patsy-ramsey-john-ramsey

"...in 1997, former FBI profiler John Douglas was hired by the Ramseys attorneys to help in a possible legal defense. At first, Douglas, too, doubted their innocence.

John Douglas, former FBI profiler hired by the Ramseys: The news that was coming out over the air it seemed as if the family was responsible.

But then, in January 1997, Douglas conducted a four hour interview with the Ramseys. Days later, he shared his impressions with Dateline, noting he was immediately struck by the couple’s description of the moment John found JonBenet’s body.

Douglas: And everyone hears him screaming and running upstairs “My god! My baby!” and he grabs the child and removes the duct tape and carries the child upstairs where they’re trying to resuscitate the child.

The Ramseys described to Douglas the horrific details of what they said happened in those next few frantic moments.

Douglas: It was a real emotional scene for the family, putting the child in front of the Christmas tree as they’re trying to rub the skin, the body is cold, the mother’s hysterical, the father’s hysterical, the minister is there, neighbors running in and out, so there really isn’t a crime scene...

The desperate rescue attempt, which completely contaminated any evidence at the scene, painted a picture of a family in agony, Douglas said, and he told Dateline this week that he couldn’t believe the Ramseys he encountered in his interview were capable of such brutality.

Douglas: And here is a young child, such force cracking her skull. This is not a crime of parents. Parents certainly kill. But not these kinds of parents.

Indeed, Douglas says, even when parents commit murder, it’s not usually as horrific as the scene at the Ramsey’s.

Douglas: When parents kill, there’s generally a softening of the crime scene. Where they take a blanket, cover up the child, roll the child over, face down or something like that. The child was found, JonBenet was face up. Her hands were tied together. Her head was off to the side. She had a piece of duct tape over her mouth.

And now, looking back nine and half years later, Douglas can’t shake the conclusions he first made about the case:

Douglas: I came to a very quick resolution that they’re barking up the wrong tree. This investigation is going in the wrong direction here."
Who killed JonBenet?

I have never read that anyone tried to necessitate JBR. Arndt said you could smell the decomposition as soon as he brought her to the top of the stairs and she was already in rigor. Which is why JR carried her way from himself.

And she was wrapped in her favorite blanket with her favorite nightgown
 
Rhabidosa,
John Douglas is like any other Expert Witness he will furnish you with the opinion you pay for.

.

I've read alot about this man And what he created in the profiling world. I disagree with you. He isn't your everyday average "specialist" and he approached this case from the theories and concepts he helped implement... that are still used today... in profiling. He is methodical and logical based on profiling techniques.

You basically say the man who created, fought to validate, and lived the concept of profiling would go against what he created for a paycheck. Again, I disagree from what I know of him and what I've read about this case from him.

He has 2 books out that I've read where he discusses this case. I'd recommend reading thenlm, even if just to see his perspective. Then compare it to other cases in his books... it makes sense.

Apologies for my rude phone's attempt to discourage clear communications.
 
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