I never said the autopsy said explicitly there was prior abuse signs -- it certainly didn't say there was none either. I'm saying what most experts, on interpreting the autopsy say (Cyril Wecht,,Dr. David Jones, Dr. James Monteleone,Dr. John McCann,Dr. Ronald Wright,Robert Kirschner etc).The autopsy also doesn't commit to what came first -- the asphyxiation or the head-blow. Does that preclude other experts from making an informed opinion on that too because clearly something must have preceded the other.The autopsy merely presents the findings but does not present opinions necessarily -- especially on the aforementioned events.But other experts, namely doctors and criminal pathologists, do indeed state explicitly what happened.
The coroner Meyer was reluctant to commit to much and perhaps a better coroner would have provided more succinct and more specific report. Who knows.
So because a medical expert will not commit to saying she was sexually abused prior to her murder, he must be wrong?
The word chronic is used in the autopsy but not in the sexual abuse context see: Vaginal Area
Autopsy: External Exam
Genitalia. "The external genitalia are that of a prepubescent female. No pubic hair is present."
Dried Blood.
1.Perineum. "On the anterior aspect of the perineum, along the edges of closure of the labia majora, is a small amount of dried blood."
2.Fourchette and Vestibule. "A similar small amount of dried and semifluid blood is present in the skin of the fourchette and the vestibule."
Hyperemia
1.Definition. "An increased amount of blood in a body part due to such things as inflammation or obstruction preventing the blood from flowing out."
2.Location. "Inside the vestibule of the vagina and along the distal vaginal wall is reddish hyperemia. This hyperemia is circumferential and perhaps more noticeable on the right side and posteriorly. The hyperemia also appears to extend just inside the vaginal orifice."
Abrasion
1.General Location. "A 1 cm red-purple area of abrasion is located on the right posterolateral area of the 1 X 1 cm hymenal orifice."
2.Hymen. "The hymen itself is represented by a rim of mucosal tissue extending clockwise between the 2 and 10:00 positions."
3.Specific Location. "The area of abrasion is present at approximately the 7:00 position and appears to involve the hymen and distal right lateral vaginal wall and possibly the area anterior to the hymen."
Other Findings
1.Discoloration on Labia Majora.] "On the right labia majora is a very faint area of violet discoloration measuring approximately one inch by three-eighths of an inch."
No Hemorrhage. "Incision into the underlying subcutaneous tissue discloses no hemorrhage."
1.Red Fluid in Vaginal Vault. "A minimal amount of semiliquid thin watery red fluid is present in the vaginal vault."
Condition of Anus and Perineum
1.No Trauma. "No recent or remote anal or other perineal trauma is identified." Perineum="The area between the anus and the scrotum in the male and between the anus and the vulva (the labial opening to the vagina) in the female."]
2.Anus Patent. "The anus is patent." (Patent=Open, unobstructed, affording free passage.)
Autopsy: Microscopic Examination of Vaginal Mucosa
Note. For the analyses that follow, all sections stained with H&E.
1.Chronic Inflammation. "All of the sections contain vascular congestion and focal interstitial chronic inflammation."
2.Epithelial Erosion. "The smallest piece of tissue, from the 7:00 position of the vaginal wall/hymen, contains epithelial erosion with underlying capillary congestion."
3.Birefringent Material. "A small number of red blood cells is present on the eroded surface, as is birefringent foreign material." (Definition and examples of birefringent materials are here).
4."Acute inflammatory infiltrate is not seen." (Infiltrate="An abnormal substance that accumulates gradually in cells or body tissues.")
Non-Autopsy Sources
Injuries Consistent with Sexual Assault. "both parties agree the autopsy report reveals injury to JonBenet's genitalia consistent with a sexual assault shortly before her death. (SMF P 48; PSMF P 48.)" (Carnes 2003:21).
Bleeding in Genital Area. "The bleeding in JonBenet's genital area indicates she was alive when she was assaulted. (SMF P 48; PSMF P 48.)" (Carnes 2003:Note 12).
Wooden Shards Found in Vagina. "Her hymen was torn and material consistent with wooden shards from the paintbrush used to make the garrote were found in her vagina. (SMF P 48-49; PMSF P 48-49.)" (Carnes 2003:Note 12).
No Evidence of Chronic Abuse. "No evidence, however, suggests that she was the victim of chronic sexual abuse. (SMF P 50; PSMF P 50.)" (Carnes 2003:Note 12).
Pubic Area "Wiped Down." "Boulder County Coroner John Meyer, who conducted the autopsy on 6-year-old JonBenet, said the child's pubic area showed evidence consistent with having been wiped by a cloth" RMN 11/7/98.
Now has anybody conducted a second Autopsy???????????????
Because if they didnt, we have to rely on this one. This was the report, if someone no matter how expert they think they are disagrees, that is opinion, NOT fact.
The problem with reading too much significance into the presence of the hymen is that a woman may still be a virgin even if she does not have an intact hymen. A woman may not have a hymen for a variety of different reasons. First and foremost, she may have been born without a hymen, or without much of a hymen. In addition, many women tear their hymen, enlarging the hole, through nonsexual activities-- such as engaging in sports, horseback riding ect.
That's your opinion. I respectfully disagree.And actually, your have misconstrued the autopsy. The ligature matched the penpoint heamorrages which can only occur when a person is alive and thus testify to the fact that asphyxiation occurred. Considering that most experts agree JonBenet was both chronically and acutely molested as her damaged hymen etc indicates, it seems very much possible that the ligature found was intended to act as some sort of EA device.The ligature (EA device) did not break JonBenet's hyoid bone -- is embedded in her neck as per a sex-game gone wrong in my opinion.
Em, you've just stated something which is absolutely incorrect. The autopsy DOES NOT say NO PRIOR molestation occurred. It merely does not commit to saying it did.Just like it does not commit to what killed JonBenet first -- the head-blow or the asphyxiation.All the conclusions made by the various experts are all taken from the findings of the autopsy thus your claim that the autopsy ruled out chronic sexual abuse is manifestly wrong.
The autopsy report took no position on the issue of whether there was prior sexual abuse -- that means it neither endorses of rejects such a view. It doesn't mean it did not happen. Infact, most experts, when viewing the autopsy findings, think that one fact which indeed did occur was that there was acute and chronic sexual abuse.
Again look at :Vaginal Area
Autopsy: External Exam
Genitalia. "The external genitalia are that of a prepubescent female. No pubic hair is present."
Dried Blood.
1.Perineum. "On the anterior aspect of the perineum, along the edges of closure of the labia majora, is a small amount of dried blood."
2.Fourchette and Vestibule. "A similar small amount of dried and semifluid blood is present in the skin of the fourchette and the vestibule."
Hyperemia
1.Definition. "An increased amount of blood in a body part due to such things as inflammation or obstruction preventing the blood from flowing out."
2.Location. "Inside the vestibule of the vagina and along the distal vaginal wall is reddish hyperemia. This hyperemia is circumferential and perhaps more noticeable on the right side and posteriorly. The hyperemia also appears to extend just inside the vaginal orifice."
Abrasion
1.General Location. "A 1 cm red-purple area of abrasion is located on the right posterolateral area of the 1 X 1 cm hymenal orifice."
2.Hymen. "The hymen itself is represented by a rim of mucosal tissue extending clockwise between the 2 and 10:00 positions."
3.Specific Location. "The area of abrasion is present at approximately the 7:00 position and appears to involve the hymen and distal right lateral vaginal wall and possibly the area anterior to the hymen."
Other Findings
1.Discoloration on Labia Majora.] "On the right labia majora is a very faint area of violet discoloration measuring approximately one inch by three-eighths of an inch."
No Hemorrhage. "Incision into the underlying subcutaneous tissue discloses no hemorrhage."
1.Red Fluid in Vaginal Vault. "A minimal amount of semiliquid thin watery red fluid is present in the vaginal vault."
Condition of Anus and Perineum
1.No Trauma. "No recent or remote anal or other perineal trauma is identified." Perineum="The area between the anus and the scrotum in the male and between the anus and the vulva (the labial opening to the vagina) in the female."]
2.Anus Patent. "The anus is patent." (Patent=Open, unobstructed, affording free passage.)
Autopsy: Microscopic Examination of Vaginal Mucosa
Note. For the analyses that follow, all sections stained with H&E.
1.Chronic Inflammation. "All of the sections contain vascular congestion and focal interstitial chronic inflammation."
2.Epithelial Erosion. "The smallest piece of tissue, from the 7:00 position of the vaginal wall/hymen, contains epithelial erosion with underlying capillary congestion."
3.Birefringent Material. "A small number of red blood cells is present on the eroded surface, as is birefringent foreign material." (Definition and examples of birefringent materials are here).
4."Acute inflammatory infiltrate is not seen." (Infiltrate="An abnormal substance that accumulates gradually in cells or body tissues.")
Non-Autopsy Sources
Injuries Consistent with Sexual Assault. "both parties agree the autopsy report reveals injury to JonBenet's genitalia consistent with a sexual assault shortly before her death. (SMF P 48; PSMF P 48.)" (Carnes 2003:21).
Bleeding in Genital Area. "The bleeding in JonBenet's genital area indicates she was alive when she was assaulted. (SMF P 48; PSMF P 48.)" (Carnes 2003:Note 12).
Wooden Shards Found in Vagina. "Her hymen was torn and material consistent with wooden shards from the paintbrush used to make the garrote were found in her vagina. (SMF P 48-49; PMSF P 48-49.)" (Carnes 2003:Note 12).
No Evidence of Chronic Abuse. "No evidence, however, suggests that she was the victim of chronic sexual abuse. (SMF P 50; PSMF P 50.)" (Carnes 2003:Note 12).
Pubic Area "Wiped Down." "Boulder County Coroner John Meyer, who conducted the autopsy on 6-year-old JonBenet, said the child's pubic area showed evidence consistent with having been wiped by a cloth" RMN 11/7/98.
JonBenet's genitals displayed evidence of prior molestation. Further, her 'opening' was twice the size of other 6year old girls her age. Further, blood was found wiped away from the injury she sustained at the time of her death, again in her genital region.
This is Bull, there are only averáge size guides to body parts, its not a one size thing,
Robert Kirschner:
So robert kirschner''s opinion is viewed as better thán meyer who was actually performing the Autopsy. Why?
"The genital injuries indicate penetration,but probably not by a penis, and are evidence of molestation that night as well as previous molestation." > the birefringement material found in JonBnet's genitals also supports the notion that her genitals were being molested.
I'm sorry, but you have not disproven in any way, shape or form, that sexual abuse did not occur.
