MI MI - Alexandra Brueger, 31, Fatally Shot While Jogging, Rose Twp, 30 July 2016 #2

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He is a VI and we can decide for ourselves what we believe. As poor Ally is no longer with us she cannot verify what WS is telling us on here, but I don't consider it hearsay as he is relating his direct interaction and conversations. It is my understanding hearsay is when someone relates a conversation or interaction from someone else that they did not witness themselves.
Do you have a link for your statement they were no longer a couple?

BBM, Yes, we can decide to believe for ourselves. Nikki has said that they were no longer a couple and she was planning a trip to Florida to catch up with an old flame. I know that we cannot prove that either, but we can believe what we want.
 
If we have to get technical, Combatmedic is still giving hearsay evidence. We have to decide for ourselves whether to believe it. It is his understanding of what he has heard/seen. For all we know, he can be making this all up (no... I don't think he is) , he could have misunderstood what he was told or repeated it with a different meaning.

My interpretation:
Hearsay is an out of court statement made to prove the truth of an assertion (accusation or opinion). Usually offered to bolster one's claims .
 
He is a VI and we can decide for ourselves what we believe.
Do you have a link for your statement they were no longer a couple?

Nikki has said that they were no longer a couple and she was planning a trip to Florida to catch up with an old flame. I know that we cannot prove that either, but we can believe what we want.

All RSABBM for focus

New details revealed on Crime Watch Daily TV episode”
Tri-County Times | Fenton, MI Vera Hogan Associate Editor
Mar 9, 2018

“Nikki disputes Sutherland’s claims about marriage.

At the time of her murder, she was just friends with Wes and his fabrications of marriage need to end,’ Nikki said. ‘The idea that Ally would have agreed to an engagement in December of 2016 is preposterous. And then to wait until Wes was accepted into a nursing program, successfully completing a two-year curriculum, passing the state exam and finally get a nursing position before getting married is absurd.

At the time of her murder, Ally was planning an August 2016 trip to Florida to visit a guy she had casually dated several years ago,’ Nikki said. ‘I have a pile of clothes she purchased for that trip with the tags still attached.’” (BBM)
New details revealed on Crime Watch Daily TV episode

03/06/2018 2:41 pm PST
Chris Hansen
“Who killed Ally Brueger? Michigan nurse gunned down while jogging on rural dirt road”

“‘And anyone who knew Ally Brueger is considered a suspect.

‘Everyone is in the game,’ said Lt. Shaw.

Including Wes Sutherland, an ex-boyfriend Ally had lived with for nearly two years before they broke up three months before her murder. Sutherland also worked as an aide at the same hospital as Ally while studying to be a nurse like her, and he had reportedly remained friendly with Ally after the split.

‘So being that this is an open investigation, he's a suspect,’ said Lt. Shaw.

Police had grown suspicious of Wes Sutherland from the first time they interviewed him, believing he was lying and withholding information.

‘We know that sometimes he's not absolutely truthful, but maybe he's not absolutely truthful with everybody, not just us,’ said Lt. Shaw.

[SBM]

Police had also been unable to verify Sutherland's alibi.

Where were you at the precise time of the shooting?

‘I was at home,’ said Sutherland. ‘Ally and I had actually worked the night before. And she was planning on coming over that morning.’

But could they have had one fatal final argument?

[SBM]

But Ally's parents had told a different story.

They say the reason you and Ally broke up was because she found out you are on a dating site.

‘That is not the reason we broke up,’ said Sutherland.

Were you on the dating site?

‘I was on a dating site, yes,’ said Sutherland.

Even though you were seeing Ally?

‘We had grown apart because of the marriage thing. The marriage thing was a huge issue,’ said Sutherland.

Wes Sutherland says they'd reconciled just before Ally Brueger was murdered, and were planning to live together again.

‘If anything, the breakup made us realize that we needed each other more than we realized,’ said Sutherland. ‘We had come to an agreement that we would get engaged that Christmas, but we won't get married until after I graduated from college. That was the compromise.’

And he says he was devastated by the murder of the woman he claims was his fiancée.

‘I loved Ally. No question about it,’ said Sutherland. ‘Anybody who knows me knows that I loved Ally, and knows the pain that I went through.’ (BBM)
Who killed Ally Brueger? Michigan nurse gunned down while jogging on rural dirt road
 
I don’t have FB, but here’s the link for a local reporter who might want to investigate if/how the FBI is/is not associated w/ the case...
https://facebook.com/JessicaDupnackFOX2/

...if someone wanted to reach out to MSM for info.

Thanks for the heads-up, reasonableguess. I Googled Ms. Dupnack’s name and came across this article she wrote about two weeks after Ally’s murder. It appears she has since switched stations:

25 state police detectives working jogger's murder
By Jessica Dupnack |
Posted: Tue 11:43 PM, Aug 16, 2016 |
Updated: Wed 6:18 PM, Aug 17, 2016


“ROSE TOWNSHIP (WJRT) - UPDATE (08/17/16) - Twenty-five state police detectives are now searching for the person who shot and killed a jogger along a rural road.

State police aren't ruling anything out at this point. Evidence is leading them to believe 31-year-old Alexandra Brueger knew her killer. Other elements in the case point to a random act.

[SBM]

‘We want to know more about her than her parents will ever know by the time we are done,’ said Lt. Mike Shaw, of Michigan State Police.

MSP has enlisted the help of FBI profilers. They say whoever pulled the trigger will likely have a change in behavior that is noticeable. It's possible the suspect has heightened anxiety or has become obsessed with Brueger's murder.

‘We don't want to narrow our focus into one spot that has a tendency to miss the obvious,’ Shaw said.

Shaw says it could be everything from an ex-boyfriend to a co-worker or a road rage incident.

‘We are pretty confident she knew the killer, but we are not ruling out that it could be random,’ Shaw said.


(08/16/16) - A $5,000 reward is now being offered for help solving the murder of Alexandra Brueger.

[SBM]

The Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) is the organization behind the new reward.

Investigators also ask people to report any suspicious activity along Fish lake Road.”(BBM)

http://www.abc12.com/home/headlines...in-jogger-murder-investigation-390392972.html
 
BBM, Yes, we can decide to believe for ourselves. Nikki has said that they were no longer a couple and she was planning a trip to Florida to catch up with an old flame. I know that we cannot prove that either, but we can believe what we want.

RBBM and jumping off your post

Nothing can be proved and according to Lt. Shaw everyone is a suspect. We can believe what we want.

I would believe the shooter was unknown to her before I'd believe her parents had anything to do with her murder. I haven't seen anything that would make me go in that direction.

I do believe the Lt. when he says that he has reason to believe the shooter was known to her. This feels like a crime of passion to me. By who, I don't know.

If LE came out and said that one or both parents were not being truthful then I might change my mind. It's all about credibility. IMO
 
I no longer know what to think about this case other than I hope that it is still being investigated and that evidence that breaks the case open turns up soon. Everything that Combatmedic says about Franz sounds far-fetched to me and many others here, and I know he's well aware of that. However, it doesn't make it untrue - we who've been around true crime long enough know weird and unusual and improbable doesn't mean impossible.

I also know he's well aware that he's the ex or estranged or recently reconciled (whatever the truth is there), and also the usual suspect when a young woman is murdered and that we know that he knows that we know. So, around and around the mulberry bush we go. I just hope that a random stranger isn't getting away with murder and overlooked while we and LE make endless circles.
 
Fresh perspective on the discussed previously:

IMO - If a is set up, and the money donated is not used for the stated purpose, and the donations aren’t returned (or at least offered to be returned), that is fraud.

Perhaps the FBI’s alleged involvement is about $ used for other than medical bills and/or funeral bills.

I think there was general consensus that Ally’s medical bills weren’t the legal responsibility of her parents. Was it ever determined if probate was processed for Ally? Probably not.

There were mixed opinions about the set up so quickly. . . TWO DAYS after Ally was murdered.
The was set up by Franz, on behalf of Nikki. [...]for help to cover her funeral and medical costs.
Within a few months, $22,000 had been donated to the .
Maybe LE has investigated whether those medical bills were paid.

Click here to support Ally Brueger Fund organized by Franz Brueger
Created August 1, 2016
 
Fresh perspective on the discussed previously:

IMO - If a is set up, and the money donated is not used for the stated purpose, and the donations aren’t returned (or at least offered to be returned), that is fraud.

Perhaps the FBI’s alleged involvement is about $ used for other than medical bills and/or funeral bills.

I think there was general consensus that Ally’s medical bills weren’t the legal responsibility of her parents. Was it ever determined if probate was processed for Ally? Probably not.

There were mixed opinions about the set up so quickly. . . TWO DAYS after Ally was murdered.
The was set up by Franz, on behalf of Nikki. [...]for help to cover her funeral and medical costs.
Within a few months, $22,000 had been donated to the .
Maybe LE has investigated whether those medical bills were paid.

Click here to support Ally Brueger Fund organized by Franz Brueger
Created August 1, 2016

Why would the FBI investigate fraud? That seems like more of a job for local or state LE IMO. However if the FBIs involvement is due to , I don’t see why they would be reaching out to wes and his family for interviews, as I doubt they have much insight on Nikki and Franzs financial transactions.
 
Just an FYI...
It appears as if there’s possibly a new investigative team working on Ally’s case... it also appears as if the FBI are now heavily involved.

So Why the FBI? Well... I have reasons to believe Franz fled to Germany after the CWD interview where I claimed that i suspected him. They seem to have questions regarding his current whereabouts.
I plan on meeting with them next week to discuss my theory of Franz’s possible involvement in Ally’s case and why he might have felt pressure to run.
I’m fully aware many of you are desperate for answers and disagreed with my theory in the past. However, Any info I feel comfortable sharing after I meet with them next week... I certainly will.

OMG. This is AMAZING NEWS. I really hope you can give us an update. This is HUGE Combatmedic. Thank you for letting us know.
 
Why would the FBI investigate fraud? That seems like more of a job for local or state LE IMO. However if the FBIs involvement is due to , I don’t see why they would be reaching out to wes and his family for interviews, as I doubt they have much insight on Nikki and Franzs financial transactions.
Based on this posting by VI Combatmedic2121, if "Franz fled to Germany", local or state LE wouldn't have authority:
It appears as if there’s possibly a new investigative team working on Ally’s case... it also appears as if the FBI are now heavily involved.

So Why the FBI? Well... I have reasons to believe Franz fled to Germany after the CWD interview where I claimed that i suspected him. They seem to have questions regarding his current whereabouts.
I doubt the FBI would nab someone in Germany for only fraud; it could be part of the larger picture - and to determine if Wes's suspicions about FB have any validity.
 
Just an FYI...
It appears as if there’s possibly a new investigative team working on Ally’s case... it also appears as if the FBI are now heavily involved.

So Why the FBI? Well... I have reasons to believe Franz fled to Germany after the CWD interview where I claimed that i suspected him. They seem to have questions regarding his current whereabouts.
I plan on meeting with them next week to discuss my theory of Franz’s possible involvement in Ally’s case and why he might have felt pressure to run.
I’m fully aware many of you are desperate for answers and disagreed with my theory in the past. However, Any info I feel comfortable sharing after I meet with them next week... I certainly will.

Re bold:

I just realized that you said he "fled" to Germany. That implies he was running away to somewhere that he could not be arrested. Yet he came back. Which also implies he was not hiding out in another country. So why would he even return if he was guilty or afraid he would be charged as a suspect?

Could Franz have gone to Germany again, possibly to visit family? Why would that be wrong?

This is bugging me a lot tonight, for some reason.

All my own thoughts and musings.
 
Although they do, the FBI does not have to have a presence in any country to bring a fugitive back to the US. That is what extradition agreements are for. If Franz still retains his German citizenship I am sure that the FBI could not arrest him in Germany but could request the police in Germany to arrest him and file for extradition.
 
Based on this posting by VI Combatmedic2121, if "Franz fled to Germany", local or state LE wouldn't have authority:

I doubt the FBI would nab someone in Germany for only fraud; it could be part of the larger picture - and to determine if Wes's suspicions about FB have any validity.

Time will tell I suppose.
 
I guess that what anyone says about Ally is going to be hearsay based on what some have said on here.

If this goes to trial then it will be mentioned in court so is not hearsay but that's JMO of course.
 
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