MI MI - Julia Niswender, 23, EMU student, Ypsilanti, 10 Dec 2012 - #5

[rosesfromangels]

I was really enthusiastic on my theories, sorry I couldn't help.. I would really like to hear one day for her justice.. All regards Trojan.


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Don't be disheartened Sherlock. For all we know, one of your theories is being worked on. We won't know anything until the arrest and trial.

I can imagine the Perp thinking enough time has passed and that they've gotten away with this horrific crime. But we know that isn't true. And I'm sure the Perp knows this, even if they deny it. Everyday they must be looking over their shoulder, and wondering if the knock will come on their door.

And we know it will.

 

[sherlock221b]

Don't be disheartened Sherlock. For all we know, one of your theories is being worked on. We won't know anything until the arrest and trial.

I can imagine the Perp thinking enough time has passed and that they've gotten away with this horrific crime. But we know that isn't true. And I'm sure the Perp knows this, even if they deny it. Everyday they must be looking over their shoulder, and wondering if the knock will come on their door.

And we know it will.

What do You mean by "One of your theories is being worked on" ? I am really glad to hear that if it's true, did You mean Ypsi police is looking into it?
Hope is born, finally.


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[rosesfromangels]

What do You mean by "One of your theories is being worked on" ? I am really glad to hear that if it's true, did You mean Ypsi police is looking into it?
Hope is born, finally.


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My post said "for all we know", one of your theories is being worked on. Meaning, we don't know. However, the Detective is sharp, and I'm confident that she would pursue any good suggestion that had potential or merit.
These cases require patience, as LE, the labs are all grossly understaffed given the case load. However, every day I am hearing of incredible DNA breakthroughs. I completely believe the forensics will bring Julia's case to justice.
I know it is taking a long time, but that is to be expected with such a complex case, and as I said, the backlog.

One thing we can all do is continue to analyze cases with a similar signature, and not necessarily in Michigan. While we don't have all the details, we know there were very specific things that would stand out if a similar case came to light.
I am constantly looking for those similarities.

Thank you for participating on the thread. Your ideas and enthusiasm are greatly appreciated by all.
Justice for Julia!

 

[Midge Montana]

It's been awhile since I read this case, so my memory may be off. I'm going on kind-of remembering some of the details. Forgive me if I'm way off, please, but I found something to be excited about, maybe.
They do have 2 suspect DNA profiles, right? No match in the system, so they're just waiting for perp to strike again.

Well, I've been following the Allison Feldman case on here since it happened a few years ago. This week they announced an arrest. They didn't match the killer's DNA from the system, but looked for someone very close. They hit on his brother's DNA, who is or was in prison. Then traced the killer from there.

It's the first case in Arizona to have used this technique, but I hope it catches on everywhere. Can you imagine the cold cases that might be solved?
I thought about Julia's case, and if I'm not mistaken, this could be an awesome thing to try. I'm not sure if Michigan has ever done this, but it would be worth having the family address it with the detectives, IMO.

Here is a link to Allison's thread. There are several links in the last few pages about this method.

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...-Feb-2015-4-*Arrest*/page25&highlight=allison

 

[rosesfromangels]

It's been awhile since I read this case, so my memory may be off. I'm going on kind-of remembering some of the details. Forgive me if I'm way off, please, but I found something to be excited about, maybe.
They do have 2 suspect DNA profiles, right? No match in the system, so they're just waiting for perp to strike again.

Well, I've been following the Allison Feldman case on here since it happened a few years ago. This week they announced an arrest. They didn't match the killer's DNA from the system, but looked for someone very close. They hit on his brother's DNA, who is or was in prison. Then traced the killer from there.

It's the first case in Arizona to have used this technique, but I hope it catches on everywhere. Can you imagine the cold cases that might be solved?
I thought about Julia's case, and if I'm not mistaken, this could be an awesome thing to try. I'm not sure if Michigan has ever done this, but it would be worth having the family address it with the detectives, IMO.

Here is a link to Allison's thread. There are several links in the last few pages about this method.

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...-Feb-2015-4-*Arrest*/page25&highlight=allison

And this is exactly how "Buckskin Girl" got identified this past week after 37 years.
This new DNA mapping to relatives is a MAJOR advancement in criminology. And YES, as I understand it, the DNA left at the Niswender crime scene could be processed in a similar manner. (To identify close relatives), and then zero in from there.

This is a complete game changer.

 

[Ozoner]

It's been awhile since I read this case, so my memory may be off. I'm going on kind-of remembering some of the details. Forgive me if I'm way off, please, but I found something to be excited about, maybe.
They do have 2 suspect DNA profiles, right? No match in the system, so they're just waiting for perp to strike again.

Well, I've been following the Allison Feldman case on here since it happened a few years ago. This week they announced an arrest. They didn't match the killer's DNA from the system, but looked for someone very close. They hit on his brother's DNA, who is or was in prison. Then traced the killer from there.

It's the first case in Arizona to have used this technique, but I hope it catches on everywhere. Can you imagine the cold cases that might be solved?
I thought about Julia's case, and if I'm not mistaken, this could be an awesome thing to try. I'm not sure if Michigan has ever done this, but it would be worth having the family address it with the detectives, IMO.

Here is a link to Allison's thread. There are several links in the last few pages about this method.

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...-Feb-2015-4-*Arrest*/page25&highlight=allison

They don't know whether the DNA that they have is from a suspect. The DNA comes from latex gloves that investigators believe were planted in order deceive LE. It is extremely likely that the DNA is not from the murderer.

Now, there's one thing that I don't remember: has it been confirmed one way or another whether James Turnquist has had a vasectomy?

 

[rosesfromangels]

They don't know whether the DNA that they have is from a suspect. The DNA comes from latex gloves that investigators believe were planted in order deceive LE. It is extremely likely that the DNA is not from the murderer.

Now, there's one thing that I don't remember: has it been confirmed one way or another whether James Turnquist has had a vasectomy?

This article addresses the vasectomy question, although I don't know that it answers your question definitively. LE has never confirmed one way or the other to my knowledge.

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/09/documents_detail_allegations_a.html

 

[MittenScarpetta]

It's been awhile since I read this case, so my memory may be off. I'm going on kind-of remembering some of the details. Forgive me if I'm way off, please, but I found something to be excited about, maybe.
They do have 2 suspect DNA profiles, right? No match in the system, so they're just waiting for perp to strike again.

Well, I've been following the Allison Feldman case on here since it happened a few years ago. This week they announced an arrest. They didn't match the killer's DNA from the system, but looked for someone very close. They hit on his brother's DNA, who is or was in prison. Then traced the killer from there.

It's the first case in Arizona to have used this technique, but I hope it catches on everywhere. Can you imagine the cold cases that might be solved?
I thought about Julia's case, and if I'm not mistaken, this could be an awesome thing to try. I'm not sure if Michigan has ever done this, but it would be worth having the family address it with the detectives, IMO.

Here is a link to Allison's thread. There are several links in the last few pages about this method.

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...-Feb-2015-4-*Arrest*/page25&highlight=allison

So glad to hear an arrest was made in Allison’s case and also very excited to hear that this type of forensic testing is truly bringing justice. I believe there are currently 11 states who have done this type of DNA testing now (24 states have the capability) and am very hopeful it will bring a lot more arrests and convictions. It’s amazing what can be done with familial DNA testing!

https://www.forensicmag.com/news/20...ates-using-familial-searches-partial-matching

 

[MittenScarpetta]

This article addresses the vasectomy question, although I don't know that it answers your question definitively. LE has never confirmed one way or the other to my knowledge.

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/09/documents_detail_allegations_a.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/71507420

Here’s another article. I believe we can assume it was confirmed by LE because it was noted as being outlined in the 12 page search warrant as part of the circumstantial evidence, as well as being confirmed by Julia’s grandmother.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Whenever I notice new posts for Julia Niswender, I'm hopeful that I'll read that there's been a major break in the case or an arrest. It's been too long for this crime to go unsolved. Too long for two other Michigan cases, too: Alexandra Brueger (murdered) and Danielle Stislicki (missing). The families of these young women deserve closure and justice.

 

[Midge Montana]

Whenever I notice new posts for Julia Niswender, I'm hopeful that I'll read that there's been a major break in the case or an arrest. It's been too long for this crime to go unsolved. Too long for two other Michigan cases, too: Alexandra Brueger (murdered) and Danielle Stislicki (missing). The families of these young women deserve closure and justice.

Me too. Sadly, I could keep busy all day reading Michigan cases alone.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I can hardly wait to see Julia's killer identified in a similar manner. Justice for Julia!

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-dna-golden-state-killer-20180426-story.html

 

[Spellbound]

The perp better start worrying. With so many “old” cases starting to get solved with new technology, I hope Ypsi is up on it and it helps out here. Hopeful.

 

[sherlock221b]

Truly amazing what I have been reading so far, and how many old cases are being revealed and solved, justice will be served for Julia.


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[Trojan1966]

I truly believe that forensic technology will be what really solves Julia's case. Pray for Justice for Julia.

 

[Spellbound]

I hope Ypsi is able to use some of the new techniques. It may be exactly ehat we need!

 

[Ozoner]

I hope Ypsi is able to use some of the new techniques. It may be exactly ehat we need!

If Julia was murdered by her stepfather James Turnquist, as many people believe, then it's safe to say that the DNA does not belong to the perp. Turnquist could have fished those gloves out of a trash can at his doctor's office for all we know.
For this case, I'm at 90% James Turnquist, 9% Daniel Clay, 1% someone else.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

If Julia was murdered by her stepfather James Turnquist, as many people believe, then it's safe to say that the DNA does not belong to the perp. Turnquist could have fished those gloves out of a trash can at his doctor's office for all we know.
For this case, I'm at 90% James Turnquist, 9% Daniel Clay, 1% someone else.

The only problem with Daniel Clay is that he did not have a vasectomy. In fact, I saw the mother of his latest child (conceived right before his arrest for Chelsea) at her place of employment recently. The sperm found in Julia’s case was said to come from a man who had a vasectomy.

 

[Ozoner]

The only problem with Daniel Clay is that he did not have a vasectomy. In fact, I saw the mother of his latest child (conceived right before his arrest for Chelsea) at her place of employment recently. The sperm found in Julia’s case was said to come from a man who had a vasectomy.

Is there any possibility sperm cells could be absent from a man's seminal fluid if he hadn't had a vasectomy? For instance, what if Clay had been using Viagra and had ejaculated a dozen times during the preceding 48 hours? Isn't it possible that his sperm count might have been extremely low--approaching zero?

If the vasectomy angle is a certainty, then I'm probably at 98% James Turnquist, 2% someone else. For me, that would be good enough to vote guilty if I were on a jury.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Is there any possibility sperm cells could be absent from a man's seminal fluid if he hadn't had a vasectomy? For instance, what if Clay had been using Viagra and had ejaculated a dozen times during the preceding 48 hours? Isn't it possible that his sperm count might have been extremely low--approaching zero?

If the vasectomy angle is a certainty, then I'm probably at 98% James Turnquist, 2% someone else. For me, that would be good enough to vote guilty if I were on a jury.

I don’t believe that is a factor. To my knowledge, viagra does not alter a sperm count. If it did, it would probably be used and marketed as male birth control.