Found Deceased MI - Kevin Bacon, 25, met someone online, Swartz Creek, 24 Dec 2019 *Arrest*

[Yolo]

Do we know what time the hearing will be today?

 

[Kiranerys]

So, I think he would have been more successful if instead of arguing he’s a noble person from Wales, or making up the Edgar persona, he stuck with the two he already has: Mark, the professional chemist, and “The Wolf” (Olykos).
The Wolf clearly had a more complex history, perhaps the chase is part of the game for him? Kevin was a bigger guy, maybe that’s why he couldn’t get away and was stabbed in the back...

not quite sure where I’m going with this, but I feel if he just told the police he’s not Mark, he’s a wolf who needs to hunt and kill and eat it’s prey, it would have been a better defense than this noble person who never made an appearance until The Wolf was caught...
imho

Or maybe he learnt his lesson when the first two got away?

 

[Bravo]

Do we know what time the hearing will be today?

I thought it was 8:30 this morning

 

[Nancy19XX]

Man accused in Kevin Bacon's death ordered to undergo forensic evaluation

BREAKING: Man accused in Kevin Bacon's death ordered to undergo forensic evaluation

 

[Nancy19XX]

Public defender addresses accused killer Mark Latunski's mental health history

More details at this link. Sorry I'm getting ready to head to work or I'd have had more info, haven't had time to read it all yet.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Man charged in brutal murder, mutilation of Michigan man will seek insanity defense

BENNINGTON TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) – A public defender filed a notice to seek an insanity defense for a mid-Michigan man accused in the slaying and mutilation of a man he met online.

Shiawassee County Court documents say attorney Douglas Corwin also filed a motion Tuesday afternoon for a forensic evaluation for Mark Latunski, WNEM-TV reported...

 

[Bravo]

Thanks for the links regarding this a.m. hearing. I totally forgot about it. Duh!

 

[Coffiecat]

Bipolar/ Manic depression is treated with medications and is associated with varying levels of Mania.
Unmedicated, the highs of self-esteem are intense, the lows debilitating. The mania can cause violent outbursts with more strength than normal.

Mania is associated with Manic Depression and Categorized as Bipolar 1 and Bipolar 2. Mania can then be divided into hypomania and hypermania.

Every person has a personality that has varying characteristics, and if one person tends to have more markers present under a certain category of personality types it is coined a disorder, when it interrupts a person's interpersonal relationships.

Personality disorders are more often than not, by itself or in comparison to any other diagnosis, commonly misdiagnosed, because there are no cures or medications to treat one's personality to understand and compare if one is truly one or the other. Much of the diagnosis is based on guesswork.

One of the most severe and disabling of psychiatric illness is paranoid schizophrenia.

I could not imagine a person's state of being if they suffer from Bipolar 1 with Hypermania/Hypermanic states while subsequently being afflicted with Paranoid Schizophrenia. The 2 are difficult enough for one person to manage alone, but together would clearly drive one to a point of insanity, imo.

Again, my description was overly simplified, intentionally, and based on my personal experience with BPD, rather than the textbook/web C&P. "Mania" was the wrong word. Maybe Schizoaffective disorder is a better spot for that pin. The 2013 re-labeling of forms of Schizophrenia may have been needed, but it lumped a lot of ground under one flag. When I get time, I'll look harder for links to his previous court appearances.

Your last line is spot on. There is no way I'd have survived the last 6-7 years without support.

 

[Knox]

There may be many who had an unpleasant experience with killer who will not come forward. Those who keep their lifestyle secret. IMO

I thought about that too, a news story I read asked people to come forward and it would be kept "confidential". If the person's testimony was found to be valuable and needed to be heard in court, could the person's identity be protected? I'm sure it could be, but just the thought of having to share that type of information publicly will likely keep some who interacted with him silent.

EBM-
I see LE will consider anyone who comes forward a victim. Protection and anonymity can be offered on that basis.

 

[Knox]

I hope the police release a statement for those individuals. A line they can contact where they can give info but with the promise their lifestyle wont become public. Then the flood gates may open

Lt. Kaiser says at this point they have not uncovered evidence there are other victims, but if there are they want the public to come forward.

If you have been a victim, or if you know anything about the case, police ask you to call (877) 616-4677, or email mioc@michigan.gov.

You can remain anonymous.
Found Deceased - MI - Kevin Bacon, 25, met someone online, Swartz Creek, 24 Dec 2019 *Arrest*

 

[Bravo]

So glad things turned out well for you Coffiecat

 

[Momma2cam]

Again, my description was overly simplified, intentionally, and based on my personal experience with BPD, rather than the textbook/web C&P. "Mania" was the wrong word. Maybe Schizoaffective disorder is a better spot for that pin. The 2013 re-labeling of forms of Schizophrenia may have been needed, but it lumped a lot of ground under one flag. When I get time, I'll look harder for links to his previous court appearances.

Your last line is spot on. There is no way I'd have survived the last 6-7 years without support.

Thanks for sharing your story. BPD has such negative connotations, even amongst mental health professionals, and it makes it very difficult for individuals to find or even seek appropriate, effective help.

FWIW, I would be surprised if ML has a BPD diagnosis, but clearly have very limited information to make that formal assessment and it's obviously unethical to do so based on that.
Schizotypal personality disorder may be a possibility (again, MOO, not a clinical assessment).

 

[Coffiecat]

Thanks for sharing your story. BPD has such negative connotations, even amongst mental health professionals, and it makes it very difficult for individuals to find or even seek appropriate, effective help.

FWIW, I would be surprised if ML has a BPD diagnosis, but clearly have very limited information to make that formal assessment and it's obviously unethical to do so based on that.
Schizotypal personality disorder may be a possibility (again, MOO, not a clinical assessment).

Previous articles on ML listed the BPD diagnosis, along with Paranoid Schizophrenia, but I haven't had the time to research the court records. He's in the next county, and I have little experience navigating their system, and none of the inside sources I have here. I've a feeling a reporter misunderstood "borderline" to mean "sorta like", IMO only.

Yes, mental health care is a serious issue in the US. Incarceration is a more lucrative industry that would be damaged heavily by adequate mental health systems. Insurance is a Socialist construct, ran by Capitalists. Judgment without understanding and/or empathy is far too prevalent here. Soapbox tossed in the fire... LOL

 

[Momma2cam]

Previous articles on ML listed the BPD diagnosis, along with Paranoid Schizophrenia, but I haven't had the time to research the court records. He's in the next county, and I have little experience navigating their system, and none of the inside sources I have here. I've a feeling a reporter misunderstood "borderline" to mean "sorta like", IMO only.

Yes, mental health care is a serious issue in the US. Incarceration is a more lucrative industry that would be damaged heavily by adequate mental health systems. Insurance is a Socialist construct, ran by Capitalists. Judgment without understanding and/or empathy is far too prevalent here. Soapbox tossed in the fire... LOL

Ah! I missed the BPD diagnosis and only recall vague reference to "personality disorder."

 

[Coffiecat]

Ah! I missed the BPD diagnosis and only recall vague reference to "personality disorder."

Yes, the wording in recent articles piqued my curiosity, so I looked deeper.

 

[UnapologeticallyAspie]

Ah! I missed the BPD diagnosis and only recall vague reference to "personality disorder."

Me too. (Hence why I said something about what PD I thought he had.)

 

[Bravo]

Me too. (Hence why I said something about what PD I thought he had.)

Me three

 

[EmmaRose]

Public defender addresses accused killer Mark Latunski's mental health history

Interesting to read what ML told his lawyer.

 

[RetUSPOinMS]

Public defender addresses accused killer Mark Latunski's mental health history

Interesting to read what ML told his lawyer.

I’m sorry, but I have no sympathy for him and his mental health problems. He knows that he requires medication to function properly in society, and yet he goes off the medication. To me—and this is based on opinion—he is accountable for his actions while he was off his medication because he knew, when he was ON his medication, that he acts irrationally and improperly without it. Some will argue that people go off their medications because of unpleasant side effects. I might buy that once, but this person apparently has done it again and again. Furthermore, I don’t patients who are on chemotherapy for cancer suffer from unpleasant side effects. What happens if they go off their medication to avoid these side effects? We do what we have to do to stay healthy—whether physically or mentally—and when we don’t, consequences ensue. Forgive me if you believe my position lacks empathy, but it’s just my opinion.

 

[TheExperience]

I’m sorry, but I have no sympathy for him and his mental health problems. He knows that he requires medication to function properly in society, and yet he goes off the medication. To me—and this is based on opinion—he is accountable for his actions while he was off his medication because he knew, when he was ON his medication, that he acts irrationally and improperly without it. Some will argue that people go off their medications because of unpleasant side effects. I might buy that once, but this person apparently has done it again and again. Furthermore, I don’t patients who are on chemotherapy for cancer suffer from unpleasant side effects. What happens if they go off their medication to avoid these side effects? We do what we have to do to stay healthy—whether physically or mentally—and when we don’t, consequences ensue. Forgive me if you believe my position lacks empathy, but it’s just my opinion.

Yes, there are individuals with no empathy for understanding, caring, or having the patience to not find paranoid schizophrenics as nothing but burdens or coo coo birds/crazies.

They are nothing like cancer patients who are in their right mind. I am not sure if a patient with dementia could expect sympathy/empathy to stay compliant with cancer medications or any medications if a person has your thought processes. Paranoid schizophrenics are more often than not in and out of states to which medication compliance cannot be compared to any other mental illness with stats, nevertheless, comparing a debilitating mental illness of the mind to that of any disease, but perhaps it could be compared to a severe brain tumor, which the patient's mental status will progress to them becoming non compliant or capable of taking their meds without a proper support system.

The worst cases are when it occurs in young children, who usually have one or two parents who had also suffered with the mental disorder. They are pretty sad cases and they develop, milestones, similar to that of kids who are raised in cages with no human interaction, feral children

This is why a huge proportion of paranoid schizophrenics are dumped in the streets and make up a huge percentage of the homeless population. They are the groups who are packed in buses from one state and bused to another state's large metropolitan city and dumped on their streets, to become their problem.

I, personally, would rather have any other mental illness, than that of a paranoid schizophrenic if I had to make a choice. I enjoy being in control of my thoughts and mind.

I do not believe one has to curtail empathy for mental health facts in a case, to remain in favor of pro life sentence for murder, and if found insane and dangerous, then a sentence to life in a proper long term care mental medical asylum.

Imo, people who are egotistical, calculating premeditated organized killers, sound of mind, capable of being their own defense attorneys, (Ted Bundy haven been unfortunately praised as a great attorney by the judge ruling over his case, and that the judge would have liked to work with Ted, had his past been different, all mentioned by the judge over his case, is a giant wtf!) humans like Ted Bundy, Rodney Alcala, Charles Ng are monsters to me. There is no medication or mental health care to cure a psychopath or sociopath.

Crazy is crazy, it does not mean that the person does not need to be in some form of facility for life. Crazy is Charles Manson, however, if Charles Manson also had paranoid schizophrenia on top of his madness, Imo, he would be in a straight jacket for life.

There are crazy people and not all defendants are making up insanity defenses, they are factually insane, imo, regardless if someone else does not like a crazy person's rights in this country to have this defense if they are indeed insane.

I feel insane now from placing my own mind, empathy, and thoughts, toward all parties affected in some cases I have found myself following. It is overwhelming imo.