GUILTY MI - Rebekah Gay, 24, Broomfield Township, 31 Oct 2012

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One small detail that bother me. When White left to dispose of Rebekah he left little Conway alone in the residence. Did he wake up and witness anything? Did he awaken after he left? Was he wandering around looking for his Mommy? Breaks my heart :rose:
 
If Rebekah's child had been a girl, is it possible that JW might have murdered her, too?

Sure seems that he hated Females. It creeps me out that he even had his grimy hands on this little guy. Dressing him in the mornings. White is such a freak who knows where his mind would go. I am sure LE will do a thorough Interview with this little guy. I pray he was never harmed or exposed to anything White was into. I hope he slept thru the horror of that night.
 
I'm just throwing it out here as a thought. I wonder if these 14 people in the Congregation had their own Past. Found it easy to forgive Whites as they found a group willing to forgive theirs. Birds of a feather do flock together. Might be why we really aren't hearing from them. Just a random thought and not even an opinion as of yet.
I saw an old episode of "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" last night that had eerie similarities to this case. Peter Falk played an ex-con who started a church with the express purpose of conning little old ladies out of their money and property. While White doesn't appear to be a charmer from his mugshots, something about him must have made it easy for naive, gullible people to believe that he had truly been transformed while in prison.

As for the program I watched, Peter Falk "courted" one of the older women in the church and killed her. When her daughter came home to close out her mother's estate, he began courting her and killed her, too! :what:
 
Seems those 14 years in prison may have taught White how to become a better Con. Not that i judge anybody on looks but this guy sets my creep meter off the charts. He must have presented as a really kind and caring man. I guess thats what sociopath's do. Present what they want us to see. MOO
 
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Going out on a limb here, & please feel free to disagree with me, but I am wondering if his wife's actions at the time may have saved Teresa's life. If he thought Teresa was dead, he would not continue to harm her. Just a thought. Wondering if it may have been a friend of the wife's that discovered the situation & called police. Wondering if she invited that friend over to expose him. Possibly she was just as afraid of him?

RIP beautiful Rebekah Gay. This never should have happened to you.

Do we know how long she stayed married to this monster after the stabbing? That would tell me everything I need to know about her. Obviously I don't know all the details but if he was comfortable enough to try to kill this young woman in his own basement, it doesn't seem like he was too worried about his wife finding out (maybe because she already knew?).

As much hate and disgust as I have for the men who do these horrendous acts, I am especially enraged by the women who stand by and allow and/or participate in these acts (e.g. Karla Homolka :furious:). IMO it is a worse betrayal.

My thoughts are with Rebekah's loved ones and I'm sorry her name will forever be linked with a monster's. Hopefully the justice system will get it right this time.
 
Seems those 14 years in prison may have taught White how to become a better Con. Not that i judge anybody on looks but this guy sets my creep meter off the charts. He must have presented as a really kind and caring man. I guess thats what sociopath's do. Present what they want us to see. MOO

Dont alot of cons become ministers in prison?
Mail order ministers i call em!
 
Ok. This gives us something to work on:
I found this is linked to addresses in these cities (all in MI):
Galesburg
Midland
Augusta
Carson City
Mt Pleasant

I also found these unsolved cases all within appx 2 hrs of where he has lived and from what I can tell, when he was not in prison.

Bianca Chanel Green Romulus MI missing 3/25/2011
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1589_31786_32000-259485--,00.html
(no WS thread that I found)


Aundria Bowman Hamilton MI missing 3/11/1989
(MI website says Hamilton, WS says Holland MI)
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52885&highlight=Aundria+bowman
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1589_31786_32000-214601--,00.html


Alicia Digna Romulus MI
missing 8/27/08
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94558&highlight=alicia+digna
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1589_31786_32000-258759--,00.html


Patty Joe Borring Lansing MI missing 4/14/12 found deceased 5/2012
(no WS thread that I found)
http://www.wilx.com/news/headlines/Drowning_Victim_Identified_155339865.html
 
Apparently they are only listed for 3 yrs after discharge.
from the website:


In 2008, the Michigan Legislature permitted removal of offender&#8217;s information from OTIS after three years had elapsed from the discharge date. If an offender resumes supervision with the MDOC, all public records will be available on the website until three years has again elapsed from the discharge date of the most recent MDOC jurisdiction or supervision term.
 
FYI:
Illinois inacted a Murder and Violent Offender Against Youth website.
I am thankful we have a way to look up the past of people we are unsure of.
It isn't everything (I wish it showed those who murdered adults too) but it is helpful.
http://www.isp.state.il.us/cmvo/
 
Ok. This gives us something to work on:
I found this is linked to addresses in these cities (all in MI):
Galesburg
Midland
Augusta
Carson City
Mt Pleasant

I also found these unsolved cases all within appx 2 hrs of where he has lived and from what I can tell, when he was not in prison.

Bianca Chanel Green Romulus MI missing 3/25/2011
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1589_31786_32000-259485--,00.html
(no WS thread that I found)


Aundria Bowman Hamilton MI missing 3/11/1989
(MI website says Hamilton, WS says Holland MI)
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52885&highlight=Aundria+bowman
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1589_31786_32000-214601--,00.html


Alicia Digna Romulus MI
missing 8/27/08
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94558&highlight=alicia+digna
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1589_31786_32000-258759--,00.html


Patty Joe Borring Lansing MI missing 4/14/12 found deceased 5/2012
(no WS thread that I found)
http://www.wilx.com/news/headlines/Drowning_Victim_Identified_155339865.html

Great work!

Do you want to do some more digging? Acc to the intelius website I mentioned above John Douglas White, location Galesburg and Augusta, age 55, is/was related to Dawn White, aged 52. Maybe his former wife? She also lived in Galesburg, Augusta and Carson City. Additionally, she has lived in Kalamazoo, Richland, and Otsego, MI, and maybe he has lived in those cities as well. Maybe you want to check out those location too for missing people or unsolved murders.
 
Thanks for this! I believe them, as with 1 Corinthians 5. It's important that believers use these scriptures to defend against untruths.

Thank you. I believe this too and Sunday school doesn't provide enough armour. We have to open our eyes and be pro active. I see several peeps have responded that we are to forgive and that God always will forgive when asked, here's more opinion to consider.

If someone knows God's ultimate commandment and disobeys it, that is sinning against the Holy Spirit and is unforgivable. When I read deeper, there are levels of defying God and examples given. I'm not a Bible scholar, far from it, but desire to understand more. God forgives our sins, yes. But there is more to study about this depending on who you are being asked to forgive. We're actually warned to keep our distance from certain people so we don't fall into a trap, the one they set up ahead of time. The misconception we sometimes have is that we are to be nice to everyone at all times no matter who they are or say they are, etc. When I dig deeper, that's not what I hear. God says that if anyone causes, as in leads, a child of his into sin, 'woe, unto that person'. He doesn't just forgive them, no.

If someone claims to be a pastor, I believe that is someone who is claiming to know God's commandments and will be judged and turned away from God as the person never knew him to begin with as demonstrated by his actions of his own free will. No one who truly loves God can do unto others in such heinous ways. It's not possible.
When we love God, we still have human lessons to learn and hurt others in small ways all the time. Growing and learning, instead of carrying on in our usual ways, is something God wants to help us with. Those are different behaviors that are in a different category from the sadistic souls we deal with all too often on WS. When you read about general sin, most people, if honest, will see they have a long way to go before they evolve to God's standard, if it's even possible. Issues surrounding our attitudes about money, ego, gossip, judging other believer's petty actions (instead of minding our own), all come into play.


We form general pat beliefs about broad topics. After hearing them time and time again we simplify and believe them too generally imo. Using two versions of the Bible, I tried to read everything I could about forgiveness. We are to forgive other believers when we are crossed as none of us are without sin. If you make an in depth study of forgiveness, you will see that God will not forgive actions that cause his children great harm regardless of who they say they are. He knows who the frauds are who claim to love Him.

Jesus forgave the thief because he believed and turned to Jesus and asked for forgiveness. That's an example of asking for forgiveness. But it's not always that simple, when you dig deeper into scripture.

The actions of this man go beyond anything that God is willing to forgive imo. Afterall, he called himself a pastor but was an imposter.

This post is on topic because this man called himself a pastor and it's a shame that none of the flock among his fourteen, were none the wiser that he was a fraud. To be too trusting is not a commandment. We are warned about the wolf who wears sheeps clothing. This creep is an example.
 
"Forgive the sinner but not the sin."

In general, yes. God is not mocked though. Some sinners do not belong to God even if they claim that they do. He knows those who belong to Him. He knows we are not perfect. We all have those darn boulders in our eyes and it's easier to throw stones, etc.
People who do the things we read about here on WS, are beyond help imo. They belong to the devil. Are we supposed to forgive the work of the devil? No, we're supposed to flee from the devil. It's a whole other ball game.

If one doesn't believe in good and evil and/or God, it's a mute point. They'll do what they want to do, despite what anyone says. At least they're not parading around as something else. That's the part that applies to this case in that the creep calls himself a pastor.
 
Great work!

Do you want to do some more digging? Acc to the intelius website I mentioned above John Douglas White, location Galesburg and Augusta, age 55, is/was related to Dawn White, aged 52. Maybe his former wife? She also lived in Galesburg, Augusta and Carson City. Additionally, she has lived in Kalamazoo, Richland, and Otsego, MI, and maybe he has lived in those cities as well. Maybe you want to check out those location too for missing people or unsolved murders.

Did I read JDW, the perp, has a son? I have a reason for asking and tried looking myself but couldn't connect. If so, how old is he and does he have children of his own? omg.
 
Ok. This gives us something to work on:
I found this is linked to addresses in these cities (all in MI):
Galesburg
Midland
Augusta
Carson City
Mt Pleasant

I also found these unsolved cases all within appx 2 hrs of where he has lived and from what I can tell, when he was not in prison.

Bianca Chanel Green Romulus MI missing 3/25/2011
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1589_31786_32000-259485--,00.html
(no WS thread that I found)


Aundria Bowman Hamilton MI missing 3/11/1989
(MI website says Hamilton, WS says Holland MI)
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52885&highlight=Aundria+bowman
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1589_31786_32000-214601--,00.html


Alicia Digna Romulus MI
missing 8/27/08
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94558&highlight=alicia+digna
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1589_31786_32000-258759--,00.html


Patty Joe Borring Lansing MI missing 4/14/12 found deceased 5/2012
(no WS thread that I found)
http://www.wilx.com/news/headlines/Drowning_Victim_Identified_155339865.html

GREAT work!!!! Lets see what we can find! I would also notify LE of this list. It cant hurt!
 
Did I read JDW, the perp, has a son? I have a reason for asking and tried looking myself but couldn't connect. If so, how old is he and does he have children of his own? omg.

I believe he has and i saw it on his FB page!
 
Did I read JDW, the perp, has a son? I have a reason for asking and tried looking myself but couldn't connect. If so, how old is he and does he have children of his own? omg.

I did not see a male name mentioned. But the intelius website is not complete, so there could be a son. idk
 

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