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I must say that I'm very surprised. I was thinking a hung jury or manslaughter at most. Wow.
Local news just interupted General Hospital. I'm discusted, beyond discusted.:tantrum:
He never stood a chance of having a fair trial in Detroit. I have never seen a Judge so biased against the defense. She hamstrung the defense when it came to being able to defend their client. To this day the state never entered any evidence supporting McBride was at Mr. Wafer's home seeking help. In fact all the evidence entered showed she refused help and assistance from everyone yet this Judge allowed the state to throw speculation around like it was water. She didn't even enter evidence to support a good faith basis or foundation that RM was seeking help.
Even the locals were predicting from the minute it happened they were going to throw the book at him before they even knew any of the evidence and way before the trial even started saying it was because he was white and the victim was AA. Isn't Detroit predominately AA?
I hope he has a great appellate lawyer because I see several appellate issues that can be raised especially when it comes to the Judge's rulings which is the basis for cases to be overturned most of the time
If this had happened in another state Mr. Wafer would be going home a free man tonight. My heart breaks for him. Why oh why did RM have to pound on his doors making him think she was breaking in? GAH! If she had just stayed put like she legally should have done when she had her wreck Mr. Wafer's life would have gone on as peaceful as it always has been.
Respectfully, I am a criminal defense attorney. From what I've seen, I don't think the judge was biased, nor was the defense hamstrung. I think the defense did a good job with what they had. And based on Wafer's own statements and actions, I think he was sunk. As others have pointed out, he really should have remained silent and consulted with a lawyer, rather than speaking with LE.
Ultimately, the jury felt he didn't act reasonably and in self-defense. That comes down to him, and what he said to LE, and how he testified on the stand - not the State's opening or closing, or the judge's rulings on evidence.
ITA. Wafer lied and it showed a consciousness of guilt. I think the jury did take this seriously and carefully tried to apply the laws of the state to the circumstances of the case. It wasn't about race at all.I don't believe it was about race. It was the fact he lied. Once he lied, his word was no longer to be trusted. And, if it matters, AA jurors were in the minority. It doesn't really matter the make-up of Detroit. And I would hope no Americans would find a person guilty based upon his color.
hi everyone, LTNS
Wafer did indeed receive a fair trial. This judge wasn't biased. She mediated and did a fine job of it.
had he stood in his home with the steel door locked/closed and continued to look for his phone, which he found really fast after he blew Renisha's face off and called police, he'd not be in this position.
Michigan statute is clear, one has no duty to retreat inside his home. Problem for him, Renisha was never inside his home. No proof of a breaking and entry, none at all.
Had he called police Renisha would be alive and probably under arrest herself. Since he acted impulsively he made himself the perp.
He told LE the weapon accidently discharged, not until he retained an attorney did this morph into SD.
He told police he was angry, told the jurors he didn't want to 'cower' in his own home. He told them he was piss and vinegar (angry) which doesn't equate to being scared ..had he kept this damn door shut, he'd be in the clear.
When the evidence is strong against the perp, trash the victim, trash the investigation. LE went on the accidental discharge, until he retained that attorney. So of course, they investigated way after the fact but that is due to Wafers lies and deceit. He should have been a real man, admitted he made an egregious error and taken a plea deal.
Since he choose to impulsively react when not in danger, imminent danger, this was a just verdict..
We need to stop coddling these killers and hold them responsible for their actions.
Justice for Renisha came today...
As others have pointed out, he really should have remained silent and consulted with a lawyer, rather than speaking with LE.