***Olivia: This thread is here to discuss the case. Since others
found it appropriate to comment, I figured it was open to all.
Sorry if I was mistaken, but it does seem that if no one
could discuss anything in particular,or not in particular as
so often happens mid thread
, then what is the purpose of
having a forum to begin with.
I'm sorry we don't see eye to
eye, but I am not ramming anything down anyone's throats
so to speak.My posts were not discussing politics and religion (though
I did feel compelled to mention God's love and forgiveness in case
there was someone reading this torn up from guilt about having an
abortion), and
umm, if I were not to comment based on my own personal thoughts,
what would I be saying?
Whose thoughts does everyone else
use? Their own, I hope.:crazy:
I do hope it is ok to include links,btw. Especially ones relevant and
compelling.
For those
that don't agree with me. That's ok.
If ya don't wish to read my posts... please skip 'em.
I tend to be stubborn :banghead: so I'd not feel slighted to know that someone
just couldn't stand my posts.
Oh,and thanks for the tip about
the political forum, perhaps I'll swing by there one o' these days.
*****
Candlelight, olivia, LinasK:
I understand your points, but must respectfully disagree
with y'all.
This thread started with the article that specifically mentions
the supposed intention of these teens as "aborting".
Yes, they went to what may seem like extremes to most of us.
What is wrong with them? Nothing more than is wrong with most
of us: selfishness. I've no doubt they felt desperate. Most
criminals do.(Selfishness combined with desperation is a powerful
combination.) Undoubtedly they couldn't have afforded the
so-called safe,legal, oh! and very expensive (she was in the 2nd term
ya know) procedure to end the babe's life in the politically correct way.
Everyone is pitying the poor girl for allowing this...yes, she sure is
to be pitied, imo. But it's not like
she had the tar beat out of her against her will---according to the
media reports anyway.It comes across that she was quite a willing
participant in this---that she was highly motivated by own thing above
all others: getting rid of that baby. [Flame me if you must, but
please bear with me just a bit longer.]
Some people
do and allow some mighty sick things to be done to themselves.
Some do some mighty awful things if they stand
in line to benefit.(Witness the Fear Factor phenomenon,for example.)
Then again, many, many "real" abortions ARE truly against the
woman's wishes---coercion shall we say.
Perhaps this case will
turn out to be one of those cases. However, in discussing this we
really only have a few articles to go on so for me to assume
THIS aforementioned possibility would really be conjecture.
Anyway, one last comment: for those that seem to find the
sterile atmosphere of an abortion clinic & the sainted hands
of the md's ensuring that all
women have that so-called "right-to-choose"
as noble, as proper, as anything but violent: I challenge
you-absolutely- to research what exactly occurs
during an abortion. It is truly
as violent, but even more gruesome than
what these kids did to their unborn baby. Things we would never,
never do to an a pregnant animal and her babies!!!! (Well, unless
we were like that awful guy and the puppies...
)
With that said, I too wonder why did they choose this? Why? How did such a young girl, a child herself, find herself here in
this terrible mess? Where were the parents?Something undoubtedly went
very wrong here. I wonder why?
(That's something I really find myself asking quite a lot lately (when
reading the news.
)
Anyway, sorry about the long posts. I'll neglect this thread from
now onward. Adios.
Ariel7
Your post may be better received on the Political Forum. Please don't turn this thread into a lecture based on your own personal religious and political views, some of us are here to actually read about updates on this case.