Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 1

[5bigfish5]

A couple of people have asked this question. FWIW, I live about 20 miles from Raleigh.


There are not any toll roads between the crime scene and Brevard County. In fact, I don't think there are any toll roads in N.C. IF there are, I have missed them.

MOO!

 

[fran]

Eeeuw, fran! Well now ... that sheds a whole different light. Wouldn't even be surprised - we've witnessed some people really scrape the bottom of the barrel when the heat is on ...

Hi again PSA:

This is a little OT but then again kind of related. The internet is a wonderful thing but can be abused and very scary as well.

My daughter, through her MySpace, has 1000's of 'friends,' but she networks for what she hopes to be her career. But..........she was upset about a sort of 'animal abuse' practice and started a petition and had a link to it from her MySpace.

Well.....to make a long story short,.....a couple of 'guys' objected to her petition, (she'd really started wracking up the siggys) and they began threatening her on MySpace. AND,........called her employer's headquarters and ranted on and on about my daughter, saying really bad stuff (untrue of course) about her.

All of this was happening and she had no idea because she wasn't online.

Headquarters got so concerned about her welfare, they called her store and asked them to check on her. They thought the guy was a real freak and maybe even dangerous. (Which, IMO, he is, was, whatever)

Anyway, she took down the petition and deleted all of the guys comments.

But what I'm trying to say is,.........this info about the 'neighbor' is probably bogus. IF it were true, why would LE tell the neighbors they were in no danger? The 15 yo was living among them..........

Nah, the 15 yo story is a redherring being put out by someone with a motive. It'll be interesting IF LE finds out who it was and WHY they were targeting this young boy.

JMHO
fran

 

[fran]

A couple of people have asked this question. FWIW, I live about 20 miles from Raleigh.


There are not any toll roads between the crime scene and Brevard County. In fact, I don't think there are any toll roads in N.C. IF there are, I have missed them.

MOO!

Wow!
Thanks for the first-hand knowledge 5bigfish5. That is exactly what we wanted to know.

fran

 

[Boyz_Mum]

Hi again PSA:

But what I'm trying to say is,.........this info about the 'neighbor' is probably bogus. IF it were true, why would LE tell the neighbors they were in no danger? The 15 yo was living among them..........

Nah, the 15 yo story is a redherring being put out by someone with a motive. It'll be interesting IF LE finds out who it was and WHY they were targeting this young boy.

JMHO
fran

I know this wasn't directed towards me, but I agree with your theory about the 15 year old. In my own neighborhood there are several kids who people may consider strange in thier ways, but this in itself doesn't make any of them murderers. I hope this young person is protected from these stories and it would interesting to find out who brought him into the mix.

(And I am glad that your daughter's employer was concerned with her welfare and that she is safe!)

 

[otto]

Hi Otto:

The only thing I've seen about this 15 yo was what was posted a few days ago, but now those posts are removed and someone was defending him yesterday.

FWIW, I think it's someone who has it in for the kid, or............even worse,........someone involved in the crime trying to throw the investigation off.

JMHO
fran

The user name of the person objecting to the allegations about the involvement of a 15 year old neighbour is "youngsneighbor". It could well be the child's mom.

I hadn't thought about the possibility that someone could be deliberately trying to throw suspicion off the husband. Interesting possibility. I wouldn't be surprised if the local police haven't been informed about the posts.

On second thoughts, maybe it's the 15 year old. The spelling leaves something to be desired ... just a guess.

 

[SewingDeb]

Good to see you too! You're welcome. There are definitely a couple of things about this that don't add up. I read somewhere that the fax was about a gift for his wife and he didn't want his wife to see the fax and ruin the surprise. Did he arrange for the gift while he was out of town and then ask the company to fax him confirmation? Where I see problems are in the fact that Michelle only worked some Fridays, meaning she probably had every third Friday off, or some other normal schedule. Even if it was random Fridays, Jason should have known whether his wife was going to work the next day. Also, if he had arranged for confirmation about a gift to be faxed to his home rather than to his work, he could have had it faxed when he would be home rather than out of town. He should have known that she would be home that Friday so having the fax sent to the home during the day makes no sense. It seems like such a lame excuse for having the sister come to the house. Apparently this was the first time the sister was ever asked to go to the home to do something like this.

I think the idea of the fax being about a gift for his wife was just a poster theorizing....not actually reported to us what the fax was about.

 

[SewingDeb]

A couple of people have asked this question. FWIW, I live about 20 miles from Raleigh.


There are not any toll roads between the crime scene and Brevard County. In fact, I don't think there are any toll roads in N.C. IF there are, I have missed them.

MOO!

Right. No toll roads in NC.

 

[Boyz_Mum]

I think the idea of the fax being about a gift for his wife was just a poster theorizing....not actually reported to us what the fax was about.

I think someone else theorized the fax could be about travel plans for "them" as a couple (earlier in the thread). Personally I find that "fax" very odd. If I were planning a surprise of any sort, I would have a confirmation e-mailed (hub is computer illiterate) or would have it sent to the bank and/or the local retailer who will "intercept" a fax for a minimal fee. That's where the fax issue is "fishy" to me. I certainly wouldn't have my SIL get the fax (as was claimed)- people are very good at keeping secrets BUT... I would normally assume that a sister would indeed tell her sister if something was going to be a surprise. I wish I knew what the fax was about or if it really existed...

 

[otto]

I think the idea of the fax being about a gift for his wife was just a poster theorizing....not actually reported to us what the fax was about.

It is based on rumours from someone that lives in the same area.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Thanks 5bigfish5 and SewingDeb re any toll roads. We may delete that off our checklist! Maybe cameras are being checked out; perhaps at a services stop or ATM machines...

fran, MySpace is banned where I live - so I do not know what goes on there. I've realized MySpace has it's down side from posts here & press reports on other crimes; however yours is a truly scary story! The 'Net is a powerful tool for many; but it's a lethal weapon to some. Glad your dau's boss thought outside the box (literally!). How disturbing. Back to the subject - as you said, LE will be checking out Jason's hard drives and activities to see what he'd been up to. LE are *sure* keeping tight-lipped on this.

Thanks, Boyz-Mum: When we see how some of the parents of murderers react - we might ask if their denial due is due to (the perceived) shame/horror that their own offspring can do the things they've done or have been accused of doing. I'd hate to be in that position!

 

[Boyz_Mum]

Thanks, Boyz-Mum: When we see how some of the parents of murderers react - we might ask if their denial due is due to (the perceived) shame/horror that their own offspring can do the things they've done or have been accused of doing. I'd hate to be in that position!

Gosh, PolkSaladAnnie, I would say that you have to be one of the most congenial posters I have run into on any boards... you have thanked everyone for their contributions and haven't seen a bad word typed out of your mouth thus far! Thanks for being such a welcoming figure!

I really believe that many of "us" parents out here do want to believe our children are innocent. It does seem to me that a lot of parents put "blinders on" in regard to their children though. I can't imagine the pain or horror that a parent would feel if their children were put in this position and can only speculate- but I do think that shame as well as denial come into play in the scenerio. I don't know if it's rooted in shame or denial because their child has been accused and they can't fathom the horror of it all or if they may be in the mindset that their offspring could never do such a thing (whether it's copying on a test at school or murder)... it boggles my mind! I only know that as a parent myself, I would suggest a lawyer at some point BUT I would also encourage my child to sit in jail if necessary because I believe that the truth will prevail. I know this isn't the case in some situations BUT I do have enough faith to believe it true most of the time.

I guess I haven't heard enough in this case to believe it could have been an intruder and once again, I am sorry, but my radar totally points to Jason. I hope I am wrong.

 

[strach304]

My suspicions are directed at Jason as well because of the original reports of him leaving while a friend was visiting and the fax that sent the sister to find the body. We do see too many of these cases for sure but I can't overlook the obvious from what we know so far. More information might make me think differently or could cement what I already suspect.

The poster enchanted oaks on ctv doesn't seem to have an agenda about the 15 year old but rather seems to suspect a friend of his that sounds older and is from a trailer park.

 

[Boyz_Mum]

My suspicions are directed at Jason as well because of the original reports of him leaving while a friend was visiting and the fax that sent the sister to find the body. We do see too many of these cases for sure but I can't overlook the obvious from what we know so far. More information might make me think differently or could cement what I already suspect.

The poster enchanted oaks on ctv doesn't seem to have an agenda about the 15 year old but rather seems to suspect a friend of his that sounds older and is from a trailer park.

I read over there too- because of your earlier post. I agree that the poster doesn't "have it in" for the 15 yr. old but sometimes think that people grasp at straws sometimes? I really hope the 15 year old is shielded from some of this. It's bad enough being "different" but having attention like this is far from desirable... just my opinion.

I also agree that the fax does sound suspicious and I have trouble overlooking it too. If the police really did state this wasn't a random crime, that would mean it was intentional and I can't think of a better POI than Jason.

 

[otto]

Gosh, PolkSaladAnnie, I would say that you have to be one of the most congenial posters I have run into on any boards... you have thanked everyone for their contributions and haven't seen a bad word typed out of your mouth thus far! Thanks for being such a welcoming figure!

I really believe that many of "us" parents out here do want to believe our children are innocent. It does seem to me that a lot of parents put "blinders on" in regard to their children though. I can't imagine the pain or horror that a parent would feel if their children were put in this position and can only speculate- but I do think that shame as well as denial come into play in the scenerio. I don't know if it's rooted in shame or denial because their child has been accused and they can't fathom the horror of it all or if they may be in the mindset that their offspring could never do such a thing (whether it's copying on a test at school or murder)... it boggles my mind! I only know that as a parent myself, I would suggest a lawyer at some point BUT I would also encourage my child to sit in jail if necessary because I believe that the truth will prevail. I know this isn't the case in some situations BUT I do have enough faith to believe it true most of the time.

I guess I haven't heard enough in this case to believe it could have been an intruder and once again, I am sorry, but my radar totally points to Jason. I hope I am wrong.

I'm with you in that I'm pretty sure that if anyone in my family became a suspect in a crime, I would insist that they get advice from a lawyer. It can never hurt. The husband is always a suspect, so getting a lawyer right away seems pretty normal.

 

[Boyz_Mum]

I'm with you in that I'm pretty sure that if anyone in my family became a suspect in a crime, I would insist that they get advice from a lawyer. It can never hurt. The husband is always a suspect, so getting a lawyer right away seems pretty normal.

I am sure I would get a consult with a lawyer BUT I wouldn't do that right off the bat. Jason allegedly getting a high profile lawyer RIGHT AWAY kind of sends off a bad message to me. I guess I picture someone FIRST making sure the baby is in my arms, second I would answer any questions about anything and third, maybe call in a lawyer. I would call in a lawyer for my children as well, if I truly thought they were innocent- but it wouldn't be the first thing I would suggest? Does that make any sense?

 

[LvsAMystry]

Hi Otto:

The only thing I've seen about this 15 yo was what was posted a few days ago, but now those posts are removed and someone was defending him yesterday.

FWIW, I think it's someone who has it in for the kid, or............even worse,........someone involved in the crime trying to throw the investigation off.

JMHO
fran

I agree, Fran. It's far too irrational a thing to do for it to be done by someone thinking clearly.

 

[LvsAMystry]

My suspicions are with the husband right now I have to say, but I do recognize that it's only based on what little information is public right now. So in other words I reserve the right to change my opinion.

Re: the fax. Since I do suspect the husband right now, I wonder if the fax thing was an unplanned last minute thing that will serve to highlight the disrepancies of his "trip." I'm very interested to see if it actually existed and what it was if it does -- was it really of great importance etc.. for the sister to have to go there? I guess I just wonder, if he did do it, whether he thought she'd be found in the morning when not at work etc... I know she sometimes took Friday off, but maybe he figured someone would come looking. Maybe he realized she wasn't being found and hadn't planned on his daughter being left alone that long with her Mom like that. Then again, maybe I'm just projecting my empathy in the situation when it actually doesn't exist in whoever did this.

 

[strach304]

I think it would be pretty normal to get a lawyer right away in this situation if there is any truth to the rumors that they were divorcing when Michele was killed. We don't know at this point if that was Jason's doing or the step-father perhaps. I myself didn't find it abnormal that he waited for his mother and sister to go back home because I certainly would be in no shape to go it alone. Especially if he knew that the baby was safe with Michele's family. If the EnchantedOaks poster is accurate then Michele's family believes Jason to be responsible and that speaks volumes to me. They would probably know of a pending divorce or unhappy marriage or at least something that wasn't right for them to feel this way so early on unlike Laci's family.

 

[strach304]

I am sure I would get a consult with a lawyer BUT I wouldn't do that right off the bat. Jason allegedly getting a high profile lawyer RIGHT AWAY kind of sends off a bad message to me. I guess I picture someone FIRST making sure the baby is in my arms, second I would answer any questions about anything and third, maybe call in a lawyer. I would call in a lawyer for my children as well, if I truly thought they were innocent- but it wouldn't be the first thing I would suggest? Does that make any sense?

Sure does make a lot of sense from a normal perspective which is why I think there was trouble in the marriage even if it hasn't been confirmed in the media yet. Sounds more like something you would do if you knew the suspicion would fall on you before LE or anyone else pointed the finger. I don't think someone capable of this kind of crime would care about the baby at all but wanted her body found before they got back. No conscience whatsoever.

 

[otto]

I am sure I would get a consult with a lawyer BUT I wouldn't do that right off the bat. Jason allegedly getting a high profile lawyer RIGHT AWAY kind of sends off a bad message to me. I guess I picture someone FIRST making sure the baby is in my arms, second I would answer any questions about anything and third, maybe call in a lawyer. I would call in a lawyer for my children as well, if I truly thought they were innocent- but it wouldn't be the first thing I would suggest? Does that make any sense?

It makes perfect sense. Women have the maternal instinct that would make them think first of their children. Men, I think (don't know) might think more along the lines of "fight or flee". They are wired differently. Of course it would be best to answer a few questions but if a suspect is going to become the focus of tunnel vision prosecution, it is usually because of those first few questions. There is a saying that anyone who acts as their own lawyer has a fool for a client. As soon as there is a possibility of being the prime suspect, it seems wise not to act as one's own lawyer. I would get a lawyer as soon as I realized that the questions were more about suspect than information gathering - and that can happen in the blink of an eye.

It seems that the majority here think there is a strong possibility that the husband is guilty, me included, and since Jason is probably a bright guy, he could see the writing on the wall from the outset. Keep in mind that he had a 5 hour drive with his parents to think it all through. Maybe the game plan was that his mom would pick up her granddaughter and he would take care of business.