Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 1

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Hi close enough: Meredith apparently arrived at Michelle's house close to, or at, 1 pm Friday.

Lol, texasgirl Earlier, I distinctly remember reading LE quoted "mixed testimony" - and I ended up eating Humble Pie.

ConcernedPerson: Hi and wow: So much of 'this' has been sounding far tooo Peterson/Geragoshish. It's almost scary.

One thing about faxes and print-outs - there are time settings attached to those docs.

IF ... Jason turns out being the perp - seems he 'left', maybe parked or drove around - and went back when the 'company' had left? Then drove away.

What's the consensus here? Planned? Impulse? Rage? Burglar? Some-other-dude-did-it?

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

......also, LE wants info from anyone that saw anything suspicious betw midnight & 6 am....i hate to keep asking questions that i'm SURE have already been discussed, but what time did the hubby leave for his trip??....it was at night right?

Yes, close_enough - LE wants to hear from anyone who saw a car in the area from midnight Thursday to 0600 Friday. Quote: ".... Even if you saw nothing, call us and say - hey, I saw nothing...".

The above is very clever, because someone *had to be there* to acknowledge 'seeing nothing'. That puts someone else there. Doesn't seem as though anyone saw anything.

Wonder if LE has this pretty tightly buttoned up and are going through the motions to ensure they do not get a repeat Rush-To-Scott's-Judgement on their hands?

 

[concernedperson]

Reading back, close_enough, I found a post saying that Jason was there at least part of the time the visitor was there, who left at 10:30 p.m. No link to verify that though. So, he left before 10:30 if this is accurate.

I don't think he was very far away after the visitor left and waited until his wife fell asleep. So, PSA, I think it was planned. I think he murdered her around midnight and drove to the business destination. I would like to know what time he called Meredith to go to the house though.

 

[close_enough]

Reading back, close_enough, I found a post saying that Jason was there at least part of the time the visitor was there, who left at 10:30 p.m. No link to verify that though. So, he left before 10:30 if this is accurate.

I don't think he was very far away after the visitor left and waited until his wife fell asleep. So, PSA, I think it was planned. I think he murdered her around midnight and drove to the business destination. I would like to know what time he called Meredith to go to the house though.

ok, CP...i think you're right..thanks...that's what i'm getting from reading back further....Jason left at night....

i'm with you CP; i think it was planned also....

 

[ISPTRAX]

What's the consensus here? Planned? Impulse? Rage? Burglar? Some-other-dude-did-it?

Hi, PSA... my theory or :twocents: is that it was planned. Gambling debts and a possible affair come to mind. Didn't want "yet another mouth to feed" yet probably felt he could still take on Cassie himself. No icky divorce, no wife support, no child support for the new kid, and possibly a big, fat insurance policy waiting for him. I hope I'm wrong

 

[nanandjim]

LE already knows what time, if there really was a fax....i'm sure of that

And, if it were a fax for a gift, they will know when the gift was ordered. It'll be interesting to find out if the gift was ordered the day that his murdered wife was found.

ETA: Okay, I'm a little confused. The murder victim was supposed to be at work. Was the trip that the husband took just a day trip? It sounds like it. Why couldn't he just get the fax before his wife got home? They supposedly worked 9-hour days at her job (in order to get every other Friday off).

 

[close_enough]

Hi christine - in addition: Meredith will naturally be 'processed in order to be cleared'... During the call, she admitted she touched a pillow. She tried to move her sister and look for signs of life on her sister (as per instructions and at the request of emergency operators in an attempt to save a life and guide her through CPR).

Meredith may even have had blood on her person/hands - if not through transfer via the little one, then directly from being in contact with Michelle's body. Seems to me the operator instantly understood the worst (admitting to Sheriff that it was probably a Code 7) appeared apparent & immediately told her not to touch anything else.

Upon entering, Meredith probably (obliviously) touched door-handles and other items.

BTW: At the end of the tape, the Sheriff responded to the 911 operator that they were aware of this - something about a car on its way. Did anyone catch that? Does this mean the Sheriff is able to monitor 911 calls - or could a second call have been made to the Sheriff's dept? Maybe a 2nd 911 operator alerted the Sheriff during the orginal call.

i've only heard bits & pieces of the 911 call...is there a 'place' to hear it, in it's entirety?

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Hi, PSA... my theory or :twocents: is that it was planned. Gambling debts and a possible affair come to mind. Didn't want "yet another mouth to feed" yet probably felt he could still take on Cassie himself. No icky divorce, no wife support, no child support for the new kid, and possibly a big, fat insurance policy waiting for him. I hope I'm wrong

Hi back and yes, seems to be looking that way. Interesting take on the insurance policy, ISPTRAX; hadn't thought/read about that! With Michelle's financial background and a young family brewing, maybe she took good care of these things. He had gambling debts ... last job 3 months, talk of marital issues, shot-gun wedding, hitting on women??? hmmmm... if these things are true ...

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

i've only heard bits & pieces of the 911 call...is there a 'place' to hear it, in it's entirety?

Yes there is, close_enough. Way back there are links. Will go check for ya, but my 'search' history is currently getting an F grade...

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Hi close_enough : scroll down to find the link in this article:

http://www.wral.com/news/10252313/detail.html

 

[close_enough]

And, if it were a fax for a gift, they will know when the gift was ordered. It'll be interesting to find out if the gift was ordered the day that his murdered wife was found.
ETA: Okay, I'm a little confused. The murder victim was supposed to be at work. Was the trip that the husband took just a day trip? It sounds like it. Why couldn't he just get the fax before his wife got home? They supposedly worked 9-hour days at her job (in order to get every other Friday off).

i think IF there was a gift purchased/thoughts of purchasing, & there was a fax sent to his computer at home, then i'll bet it was sent prior to his business trip...he'll say that he forgot & left the fax there...forgot to put it away before he left, & he "just remembered"......he could say he was on the computer just prior to leaving for the trip...heck, or that afternoon, or the night before, for that matter...(depending on how far in advance he'd planned to kill her, IF he did)

from what i gather, this was just a day trip....early 'meeting' for work i guess, then spend the rest of the day with his parents???..that's how i understand it...he probably thought it was faster to have the sister go find the fax, & wasn't planning on being back home before Michelle....

 

[close_enough]

Yes there is, close_enough. Way back there are links. Will go check for ya, but my 'search' history is currently getting an F grade...

lol @"F grade...

sometimes i'm pretty good at scrolling & scanning at the same time.....i'm 'catching up' here pretty good...thank you

 

[Masissy]

Phone records should be interesting as well.

Did he call her after leaving the house to check on her and his daughter?

Did he call and check on her and Cassidy the next morning?

Did he call her at work?

Wonder what time he called her sister to pick up that dang fax/printout?

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Oh, geeze...this doesn't sound good.

In response to your post to wufdude - haven't seen her for a while, luvbeaches?

((((((((come back wufdude))))))))))

 

[close_enough]

Hi close_enough : scroll down to find the link in this article:

http://www.wral.com/news/10252313/detail.html

thanks a lot, PS....oh my, when Meredith asks the child something on the lines of "do you know what happened to mommy?", it sounded like she went on a 'ramble' of sorts, & it almost immediately began with "Daddy".......i'll bet they've zero'd in on that tape, hardcore, enhancing the sound (if that's what you call it) .... i believe that child said a lot.....

there's no way that i think Meredith is involved.....i think she sounded like a very shaken person, trying to 'tough it out' for the child, Cassie....

i also heard the ending....sheriffs dept already had someone in route...it wouldn't surprise me if they monitor the 911 calls...hmmm, but interesting...

again, thanks so much for finding that link...

 

[close_enough]

Phone records should be interesting as well.

Did he call her after leaving the house to check on her and his daughter?

Did he call and check on her and Cassidy the next morning?

Did he call her at work?

Wonder what time he called her sister to pick up that dang fax/printout?

i agree...they should be interesting...it wouldn't surprise me if he made no calls to her place of employment, OR the home.....if he's smart, he didn't anyway....imo

 

[j2mirish]

Phone records should be interesting as well.

Did he call her after leaving the house to check on her and his daughter?

Did he call and check on her and Cassidy the next morning?

Did he call her at work?

Wonder what time he called her sister to pick up that dang fax/printout?

The only thing about him not making calls to her- because it bit me in the arse- when Dan Horowitz had tried to call his wife Pam thru-out the day and got no answer-then never went home and checked on her- I thought that was a tell tale sign he did it--but I was wrong- crossing my fingers that this husband didnt to it either-- I didnt like a picture I saw of him though- and that is bothering me...

 

[close_enough]

The only thing about him not making calls to her- because it bit me in the arse- when Dan Horowitz had tried to call his wife Pam thru-out the day and got no answer-then never went home and checked on her- I thought that was a tell tale sign he did it--but I was wrong- crossing my fingers that this husband didnt to it either-- I didnt like a picture I saw of him though- and that is bothering me...

exactly j2m....IF Jason had called her at work, he'd THEN find out she wasn't there, so that would lead him to call home.....instead he's going about his 'normal' thing at his parents, & remembers a fax he didn't want his wife to see, so he calls the SIL .....(who finds her murdered)

IF he killed her, or had her killed, he'd want everything to look like a regular day, so not calling her, IMO would fit in..he thinks she's at work & he has no reason to call her....(does that make sense?)

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

thanks a lot, PS....oh my, when Meredith asks the child something on the lines of "do you know what happened to mommy?", it sounded like she went on a 'ramble' of sorts, & it almost immediately began with "Daddy".......i'll bet they've zero'd in on that tape, hardcore, enhancing the sound (if that's what you call it) .... i believe that child said a lot.....

there's no way that i think Meredith is involved.....i think she sounded like a very shaken person, trying to 'tough it out' for the child, Cassie....

i also heard the ending....sheriffs dept already had someone in route...it wouldn't surprise me if they monitor the 911 calls...hmmm, but interesting...

again, thanks so much for finding that link...

You're welcome; I'd have loved to hear more from Cassie, too. I did catch something along the lines of "mommy's got boo-boos". Bless her little soul... Yes, as you say c_e: wonder what forensics will make of this.

 

[Boyz_Mum]

Hi close enough: Meredith apparently arrived at Michelle's house close to, or at, 1 pm Friday.

Lol, texasgirl Earlier, I distinctly remember reading LE quoted "mixed testimony" - and I ended up eating Humble Pie.

ConcernedPerson: Hi and wow: So much of 'this' has been sounding far tooo Peterson/Geragoshish. It's almost scary.

One thing about faxes and print-outs - there are time settings attached to those docs.

IF ... Jason turns out being the perp - seems he 'left', maybe parked or drove around - and went back when the 'company' had left? Then drove away.

What's the consensus here? Planned? Impulse? Rage? Burglar? Some-other-dude-did-it?

If the community they lived in is as dark at night as was stated earlier in the thread, I think Jason could very well have slipped back in the drive unnoticed. Heck, I live in the country and could still drive home without lights on (I wonder if the moon was bright that night to lighten the way?). Anyway, I do think he may have returned after the company left, he could have gone and parked somewhere for 2 hours without being noticed. (I wonder if he gassed up the car on the way out of town?)

The fax or printout sounds like b.s. to me. I think Jason knew full well whether or not his wife had to work on Friday- geesh, that would come up in casual conversation, wouldn't it? I guess I would think he planned it on a day that was her sometimes day off because that would leave less of a chance that a co-worker would be worried about her and check- if she worked with anyone closely or was friendly with anyone at work, they would know that she had the occasional Friday off.

I think it was planned. If I were more convinced that Jason isn't the perp, I would suggest looking for the brown van. I am sorry I ramble and also that I am suspicious... it's just my honest opinion.