Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 3

[close_enough]

All good points. There always seems to be one or two people that enjoy the importance of being "in the know" without really knowing any more than what is in the papers. Maybe some people at the funeral overheard bits and pieces of conversation that were later expanded into facts and posted on the internet. The entire "doctor appointment"/"at work"/"Friday off" stuff leaves big question.

Jason claims Michelle was at work, Meredith claims she believed Michelle was at work and yet we have this read on forums that there was a doctor's appointment ... maybe someone is mixing up the Peterson case with Michelle.

i think it's safe to say that JY told Meredith that Michelle was at work.....who's to say that Michelle wasn't planning on going to work, & also had a dr's appt the same day??...i understand that Michelle had flexible hours, but flexible doesn't necessarily mean that she wasn't going to work that particular Friday.....either way, Meredith was under the assumption that Michelle was going to be at work, & i believe she got this info from JY....

 

[fran]

i think it's safe to say that JY told Meredith that Michelle was at work.....who's to say that Michelle wasn't planning on going to work, & also had a dr's appt the same day??...i understand that Michelle had flexible hours, but flexible doesn't necessarily mean that she wasn't going to work that particular Friday.....either way, Meredith was under the assumption that Michelle was going to be at work, & i believe she got this info from JY....

I thought it was in a news article, (sorry, no link), that one of Michelle's co-workers said this was her scheduled Friday to work. When she didn't show up, they didn't think that much of it, they figured she'd just decided to take the day off because their work days were flexible (even though this wasn't her scheduled Friday off).

Then somewhere, LOL, probably on the CTV board, it was said that when he first called and she had it on voice mail, Jason thought she was at the doctor's office and you must turn off your phones when in a medical clinic. The second time he called and got her voice mail again, he figured she was in a meeting at work, which was why her phone was turned off.

JMHO
fran

 

[close_enough]

I first thought that she was running to the bedroom (because it is always a safe feeling place) maybe to get to the phone. I agree that she may have heard a noise, thought it was Cassidy, gone downstairs to explore and encountered a stranger. She may have run up to her room ... she wes probably in excellent health even though pregnant ... and may even have gotten to the phone but some stranger was right behind her. Dying on the bed in a pool of blood ... I suppose she could have been attacked in the head somewhere else and instinctively lay down on the bed. I'm guessing those are hard answers to find.

i think she was attacked in her bed, in the wee hours of the morning...i'm thinking betw 1:00 & 3:00 am....i think the first blow didn't kill her, & there was some kind of struggle on the bed...just from what we've read/heard, it's safe to say there was massive amounts of blood in the bedroom, & Cassidy's bloody footprints were all over the house....even if Cassidy woke up at 7 am, there's all kinds of time for her to roam around the house, looking for Daddy, confused.....

 

[nanandjim]

i think it's safe to say that JY told Meredith that Michelle was at work.....who's to say that Michelle wasn't planning on going to work, & also had a dr's appt the same day??...i understand that Michelle had flexible hours, but flexible doesn't necessarily mean that she wasn't going to work that particular Friday.....either way, Meredith was under the assumption that Michelle was going to be at work, & i believe she got this info from JY....

I really think that this was Michelle's day off. I know that when my previous employer allowed flex time, we were told to make our appointments on our "off" day. If that is the case with Michelle, it was Jason who told Meredith that Michelle was at work. I feel certain that Jason knew Michelle's schedule and that he knew she was scheduled for a doctor's appointment that Friday (if indeed she had one).

 

[close_enough]

I thought it was in a news article, (sorry, no link), that one of Michelle's co-workers said this was her scheduled Friday to work. When she didn't show up, they didn't think that much of it, they figured she'd just decided to take the day off because their work days were flexible (even though this wasn't her scheduled Friday off).

Then somewhere, LOL, probably on the CTV board, it was said that when he first called and she had it on voice mail, Jason thought she was at the doctor's office and you must turn off your phones when in a medical clinic. The second time he called and got her voice mail again, he figured she was in a meeting at work, which was why her phone was turned off.

JMHO
fran

ok Fran...i haven't read/heard where a co-worker said it was her scheduled Friday off.....i've only heard that Friday's were flexible for her..hmmm

 

[close_enough]

Thank you so much for looking into that.

My next question should be obvious. If Meredith Lynn drives a Honda and she is indeed the Meredith that is Michelle's sister, why haven't any of the "friends of Jason and/or Michelle" on the CTV board cleared that up? They claim to be in the know, but theyr'e not in the know enough to know what cars they drive ... always going along with the statements that Jason is driving "Michelle's Honda". The reason I ask this is not do debate with someone on another board, but to question how seriously we should take these "in the know" posters.

you're right otto....the folks 'in the know'/'friends' information needs to be taken w/a grain of salt, but at the same time, some of them are probably trying to figure this all out themselves....other than at the funeral, i have a feeling most of these people haven't talked to JY...some may have, but i would bet a lot haven't....JY is in Brevard; it's not like he's hookin up w/his pals in Raliegh right now, & i would even bet that he's probably not taking phone calls....jmo

 

[close_enough]

I really think that this was Michelle's day off. I know that when my previous employer allowed flex time, we were told to make our appointments on our "off" day. If that is the case with Michelle, it was Jason who told Meredith that Michelle was at work. I feel certain that Jason knew Michelle's schedule and that he knew she was scheduled for a doctor's appointment that Friday (if indeed she had one).

it may have been her day off....apparently no one from her place of employment has 'gone on the record' to state one way or the other...i'm sure LE knows this, & they're keeping a lid on this info tooooooo :banghead:

 

[close_enough]

Hey, otto - indeed! With LE specifically asking if locals had seen a vehicle from between midnight and 6:00 am that they believe (or have reason to believe) she was alive for about an hour (ish) after the friends left. Perhaps there was evidence Michelle had showered, prepared stuff for the following day ... phone logs might indicate as much. And yes, even though my views are premature, lol, looks as though it's feasible to suggest Jason had a window of opportunity to return.

yep, he had a window of opportunity, but his timeline can be blown out of the water, if it doesn't jive....if he called her at 11 pm, wherever he called her from will have to jive with that call....when he checked into a motel/hotel will have to jive with the time traveled.....IF he did this, i really feel there will be a period of time that's unaccounted for, if you take the 11 pm phone call, & IF he was already at his destination in VA at the time of phone call.....

 

[ISPTRAX]

His goose is cooked. Hopefully just in time for T-Giving!

 

[raisincharlie]

I really think that this was Michelle's day off. I know that when my previous employer allowed flex time, we were told to make our appointments on our "off" day. If that is the case with Michelle, it was Jason who told Meredith that Michelle was at work. I feel certain that Jason knew Michelle's schedule and that he knew she was scheduled for a doctor's appointment that Friday (if indeed she had one).

nanandjim

Question - when you worked flex time were you not required to advise your employer of the day you would be gone or could you just be gone and they would assume you were on flex schedule ?

I ask for obvious reasons - if your answer is you had to advise them before you took the time - it seems to me were it not Michelle's day off someone at work would have wondered about her, especially if she did not call in. Just a thought.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

yep, he had a window of opportunity, but his timeline can be blown out of the water, if it doesn't jive....if he called her at 11 pm, wherever he called her from will have to jive with that call....when he checked into a motel/hotel will have to jive with the time traveled.....IF he did this, i really feel there will be a period of time that's unaccounted for, if you take the 11 pm phone call, & IF he was already at his destination in VA at the time of phone call.....

Hi close ! :blowkiss:

That's exactly it... the T*I*M*E*L*I*N*E ....

Now, (biased-billie here , lol) I feel there's every possibility that if (IF) JY made that much rumored call at 11 pm ... and IF (IF) he left tween 9 and 10 pm, checked in made the 'mandatory' call ... then snuk out and drove back - he'd have been HOME an hour later (as we assume traffic even lighter that much later)... committed the crime - and went back to the hotel for 6:00 am.

If he was at the house - I'd say he was there ... max ... say 2 hours: staging a few things, cleaning up afterwards and getting back to here he MAY have parked his vehicle so that it was not seen...

Whomsoever went into that house did not break in (or Micheele knew the attacker). I also think that person would have parked where no one would see the vehicle...)

Hmmmm:

 

[raisincharlie]

Hi close ! :blowkiss:

That's exactly it... the T*I*M*E*L*I*N*E ....

Now, (biased-billie here , lol) I feel there's every possibility that if (IF) JY made that much rumored call at 11 pm ... and IF (IF) he left tween 9 and 10 pm, checked in made the 'mandatory' call ... then snuk out and drove back - he'd have been HOME an hour later (as we assume traffic even lighter that much later)... committed the crime - and went back to the hotel for 6:00 am.

If he was at the house - I'd say he was there ... max ... say 2 hours: staging a few things, cleaning up afterwards and getting back to here he MAY have parked his vehicle so that it was not seen...

Whomsoever went into that house did not break in (or Micheele knew the attacker). I also think that person would have parked where no one would see the vehicle...)

Hmmmm:

No one would have seen it parked in the garage...

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

His goose is cooked. Hopefully just in time for T-Giving!

Hi ISPTRAX!!! I happen to think so toooo - without the trimming!

 

[close_enough]

PSA,

All of the above is possible, but I don't know if we can continue to think the vehicle is still there or not. We know when Greta's interview was aired (Was it Wed or Thr ?) but we do not know when it was taped. We do know from news reports that JY was seen at the grave site on Friday which was the day the house was released as well. So I'm not sure about the status of that vehicle now. My friend's data is computer related so that means it is subject to human update - it could be outdated data is what I am getting at. I don't know if that vehicle is still there or not.

if i'm not mistaken, the show was aired on Thursday, & it was taped "live" that evening in Raleigh...Greta spoke with the Sheriff, earlier that same day...

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Add in that one reporter, Lamb, and for the life of me I can't remember her first name, claims that Michelle worked flex time and often took Fridays off - if correct, it adds a whole new dimension to the above. I can understand that Meredith would not know Michelle's day to day schedule in intricate detail but I have a bit of trouble thinking Jason didn't know that schedule... JMO.

Exactly, charlie. ESPECIALLY with a business trip coming up. It's not as if they didn't discuss this!! (making that 2 nights away - 1st night at the hotel and, if we're to believe later comments, he was planning to spend Fri night at his parents. Thus he was actually suppsoed to return Saturday, right?)

Don't tell me this guy was unaware of his wife's schedule .... I can't buy it.

 

[close_enough]

Hi close ! :blowkiss:

That's exactly it... the T*I*M*E*L*I*N*E ....

Now, (biased-billie here , lol) I feel there's every possibility that if (IF) JY made that much rumored call at 11 pm ... and IF (IF) he left tween 9 and 10 pm, checked in made the 'mandatory' call ... then snuk out and drove back - he'd have been HOME an hour later (as we assume traffic even lighter that much later)... committed the crime - and went back to the hotel for 6:00 am.

If he was at the house - I'd say he was there ... max ... say 2 hours: staging a few things, cleaning up afterwards and getting back to here he MAY have parked his vehicle so that it was not seen...

Whomsoever went into that house did not break in (or Micheele knew the attacker). I also think that person would have parked where no one would see the vehicle...)

Hmmmm:

hi polk :blowkiss:

yep, his timeline HAS to jive...or not

ugh, i want to continue here, but my great niece will be here shortly, & i have to get psyched up for it, LOL....got plenty of coffee in me, so here we goooooooo.....i'll be back!

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

No one would have seen it parked in the garage...

Objection granted!

Camera zooms to close-up of bad guy: PSA then ---------> bows & tugs forelock as acknowledgement; slaps her own forehead; commences sleek Ninja style backward arm sieze over remaining shoulder - which forces somersault to land breathless in submission stance: Big Foot steps forward with Other Foot on small of back... He won that round!

LOL!

 

[raisincharlie]

Objection granted!

Camera zooms to close-up of bad guy: PSA then ---------> bows & tugs forelock as acknowledgement; slaps her own forehead; commences sleek Ninja style backward arm sieze over remaining shoulder - which forces somersault to land breathless in submission stance: Big Foot steps forward with Other Foot on small of back... He won that round!

LOL!

Quite the visual - ROFLMAO ! You are :crazy: - in a good way.

 

[nanandjim]

nanandjim

Question - when you worked flex time were you not required to advise your employer of the day you would be gone or could you just be gone and they would assume you were on flex schedule ?

I ask for obvious reasons - if your answer is you had to advise them before you took the time - it seems to me were it not Michelle's day off someone at work would have wondered about her, especially if she did not call in. Just a thought.

In my office, the manager knew at least two weeks (if not a month) in advance when the employee was scheduled to work and when the employee was scheduled to be off. The manager has to make sure that the office is staffed with enough people, among other things.

I didn't necessarily tell everyone else when my scheduled days off would be. Most people "knew" when others were going to be off. It was every other week. If you didn't show up on a particular Friday and someone was looking for you, a person might say, "I think that it is her day off. You can check with the manager to be sure."

You also had to leave an extended message on your voicemail to let anyone who called you at work know that you were out for the day and who should be called for problems.

ETA: If it were not Michelle's day off, at the very least, her manager would be wondering where she was and may have tried to call her.

 

[raisincharlie]

In my office, the manager knew at least two weeks (if not a month) in advance when the employee was scheduled to work and when the employee was scheduled to be off. The manager has to make sure that the office is staffed with enough people, among other things.

I didn't necessarily tell everyone else when my scheduled days off would be. Most people "knew" when others were going to be off. It was every other week. If you didn't show up on a particular Friday and someone was looking for you, a person might say, "I think that it is her day off. You can check with the manager to be sure."

You also had to leave an extended message on your voicemail to let anyone who called you at work know that you were out for the day and who should be called for problems.

ETA: If it were not Michelle's day off, at the very least, her manager would be wondering where she was and may have tried to call her.

Thanks luv - I figured that someone where she worked would definitely know whether she should have been there or not. I can see not mentioning it to co-workers but surely the "boss" would need to know. So IMO this is one issue that LE most likely has a definitive answer for. Appreciate the information.