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@Chelly bbm sbm... I'm getting myself hung up on on the phrase "beyond a shadow of a doubt" which we will be hearing over-and-over near end of the trial.
Does anyone know if jurors are allowed to ask questions after each witness testifies?
The only time I have seen the jury ask questions is when they were in deliberation and said they can't come to a decision without answers to a few questions. The judge got them their answers. But I have only heard of that happening once, and it all happened in notes back and forth between the judge and the jury.
When I FIRST saw that tape, I could not for the life of me believe the restraint of the folks who were watching it in real time as my 100% reaction to that video and putting myself into their place was to bum rush (is that the correct term?) the officer on his neck without regard to my safety and consequences. Kinda like folks who go into fire without thinking of the consequences as you know in your heart that it must be done to save another's life. My adrenaline watching that long version was GET.HIM.OFF... and nothing else.
I wonder the guilt those that filmed carry with themselves as to not getting physical. I'm an itty bitty old lady, but I just could never have stood there (in my mind, who knows in real life) and know that person died while I watched without giving aid.
........that's the emotional side.
@SouthAussie bbm You have a keen sense of observation.The only time I have seen the jury ask questions is when they were in deliberation and said they can't come to a decision without answers to a few questions. The judge got them their answers. But I have only heard of that happening once, and it all happened in notes back and forth between the judge and the jury.
Does anyone know if jurors are allowed to ask questions after each witness testifies?
Does anyone know if jurors are allowed to ask questions after each witness testifies?
Good catch. I should have said Beyond a reasonable doubt.Doubt?
@Chelly bbm sbm
In a MN criminal trial I believe we'll hear judge refer to guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt"*
Later/ tomorrow, I'll search for Jury Instructions the judge will give regarding the crime, as they may explain or define it further.
Hypothetical (not this case): During deliberations a juror says - "I don't know if the defendant killed the child. Maybe little green men in flying saucers landed, killed her, and flew away."
Is ^ def guilty Beyond a Shadow of Doubt? Juror has a doubt, even if unreasonable.
Is ^ def guilty Beyond a Reasonable Doubt? If this is the only doubt any juror has, then guilty
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* MN Courts Website "Glossary of Court-related Terms...
"Beyond a reasonable doubt - A standard of proof required to convict a person of a crime. The jury has a high degree of certainty about the defendant’s guilt, although they need not be 100 percent convinced."
* Minnesota Judicial Branch - Glossary of Court Related Terms
oh yes that "don't do drugs" comment from that officer and thought to myself I must be hearing things.I don't remember that. I haven't visited the "media only" page for this case in some time, and hope that there is in ONE post all of the videos in ONE post to review right before the start of the trial. I wonder if that has been done or someone wants to take up such for us all to have in ONE place?
When I FIRST saw that tape, I could not for the life of me believe the restraint of the folks who were watching it in real time as my 100% reaction to that video and putting myself into their place was to bum rush (is that the correct term?) the officer on his neck without regard to my safety and consequences. Kinda like folks who go into fire without thinking of the consequences as you know in your heart that it must be done to save another's life. My adrenaline watching that long version was GET.HIM.OFF... and nothing else.
I wonder the guilt those that filmed carry with themselves as to not getting physical. I'm an itty bitty old lady, but I just could never have stood there (in my mind, who knows in real life) and know that person died while I watched without giving aid.
........that's the emotional side.
I think sequestration might make for a much quicker trial...I expect many days when one side or the other (mostly defense) coming in and have to deal with reports of juror misconduct or media coverage that is impossible to miss. Motion after motion. I am not confident that all the jurors have the life experience to deal with what is ahead.RSBM
Oh goodness NO!! I think that sequestration would be extremely rough on any jury.
In saying that though...look what happened just in the jury selection time frame....Civil court settlement 27 mill !!
This was The Headline in all major news media across the world!! Heck, even China knew about it! You think that media did that on purpose?
And, the court was not happy, as jurors WERE affected.
I anticipate sequestration during deliberations, just as was mentioned by the court
To me they seemed more interested in proving a point than any concern for a human life. His "medical episode" started long before they put him on the ground and restrained him. Imooh yes that "don't do drugs" comment from that officer and thought to myself I must be hearing things.
I think sequestration might make for a much quicker trial...I expect many days when one side or the other (mostly defense) coming in and have to deal with reports of juror misconduct or media coverage that is impossible to miss. Motion after motion. I am not confident that all the jurors have the life experience to deal with what is ahead.
The Charles Manson trial jurors were sequestered for 288 days.
Not to go too far off topic, but seeing as there's no jury selection today and we are discussing the length of trials etc...Wow! That goes against a quicker trial for sure! Interesting 1970 trivia for sure! Now that was a looooooooooooong trial. People v. Manson . Only 142 prospective jurors were questioned to seat the jury. Interesting, yet O/T to go further so long VERY interesting legal read at People v. Manson
Shows how much the defense just pushed and pushed during trial to have appellate errors. Thanks for sending me down that rabbit hole to review and to keep heads up as to what holes are.
All MOO
@Chelly bbm. My earlier BaSD vs BaRD post was not directed specifically at you, just a gen reminder to all (including those who may not need a reminder).Good catch. I should have said Beyond a reasonable doubt.
I think courts generally try to avoid sequestration, especially since the trials of Casey Anthony and O. J. Simpson. It can take a huge psychological toll on jurors and it's very expensive.I think sequestration might make for a much quicker trial...I expect many days when one side or the other (mostly defense) coming in and have to deal with reports of juror misconduct or media coverage that is impossible to miss. Motion after motion. I am not confident that all the jurors have the life experience to deal with what is ahead.