MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #16

[tinner007]

The owner of the Red Carpet resides in St. Joseph. Old guy?

I'd guess right around 60

 

[tinner007]

Hmm, if he didn't sexually assault her and she didn't put up a fight, I wonder what DNA he left on her body?
I wonder if they screwed up something with J's rape kit (or didn't do one?), because there should have been plenty of viable DNA there. The rape kit backlog is astounding though, so it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't test it or it got contaminated somehow.

When I spoke directly with the BCA lab they stated they were backed up 2 years but major cases such as murders move straight to the front of the line.

 

[tinner007]

El Rancho Mañana...
Strong connections to Abbey

How is that?

 

[Sasquatch321]

I'd guess right around 60

So roughly 30 to 40 years old in 1989. How long has he owned the Red Carpet?

 

[Sasquatch321]

When I spoke directly with the BCA lab they stated they were backed up 2 years but major cases such as murders move straight to the front of the line.

What did you speak to the BCA lab about?

 

[Sasquatch321]

Would a parks and recreation department employee be equipped with a portable scanner?

 

[shergal]

There is a Fr. Dan Ward who was on the pedo priest list - not sure if he is a relative of the current owners of El Rancho or not? Otherwise, I wasn't aware of any connection between El Rancho and St. Johns.

 

[shergal]

Would a parks and recreation department employee be equipped with a portable scanner?

"Rec. Dept" does not sound like "Red Carpet" to me. Jared was young and scared, not deaf. (JMO.)

 

[Sasquatch321]

"Rec. Dept" does not sound like "Red Carpet" to me. Jared was young and scared, not deaf. (JMO.)

how about from the backseat? The real thing to do is get Jared involved and ask him. Did he mumble those words or was it loud and clear that it was the Red Carpet.

 

[Sasquatch321]

The fact you can spell red carpet out of rec department with no shortage of of letters is fascinating.

 

[tinner007]

So roughly 30 to 40 years old in 1989. How long has he owned the Red Carpet?

Don't know

 

[tinner007]

What did you speak to the BCA lab about?

Irrelevant to this discussion

 

[Sasquatch321]

Can someone pinpoint the hockey rink in cold spring on google maps to confirm a warming house that has to be locked up nightly?

 

[Jwu]

Just jumping in to say that I'm really enjoying the sleuthing lately. I think having a couple close locals is really beneficial.

(modsnip)

 

[Wisdom]

Would a parks and recreation department employee be equipped with a portable scanner?

I've mentioned this man before but I've really been wondering lately if this guy had a scanner and if he had any alibis for the times we would be interested in. He certainly knew his way around the park systems in MN as a former director and was also fired which could've been a stressor. He was also commited to a mental institution in November of 1989 according to one of the links.

http://aapra.org/pugsley-bios/vern-j-hartenburg

http://amymihaljevic.blogspot.com/2013/11/seeking-information.html

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/11/retired_metroparks_chief_vern.html

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2012/01/retired_metroparks_director_ve.html

 

[human]

I've mentioned this man before but I've really been wondering lately if this guy had a scanner and if he had any alibis for the times we would be interested in. He certainly knew his way around the park systems in MN as a former director and was also fired which could've been a stressor. He was also commited to a mental institution in November of 1989 according to one of the links.

http://aapra.org/pugsley-bios/vern-j-hartenburg

http://amymihaljevic.blogspot.com/2013/11/seeking-information.html

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/11/retired_metroparks_chief_vern.html

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2012/01/retired_metroparks_director_ve.html

He has ears, but he looks super tall to me. Do you know his height?

This always gives me a red flag feeling nowadays. So many vulnerable children overseas.

"Here's a guy who did a wonderful job for the parks, who goes off to South America to help religious groups," the judge said.

 

[tinner007]

Trackergd - Any thoughts on a size for the tire above the JW print? That tire print is definitely different from the one in the photo by itself as shown in the comparison. I've outlined a lug in the tread as reference you can see here in the photo. How likely the tire is the tire above the print a 195?

 

[Wisdom]

You need to look closer then. The ears, eyebrows, shape of the eyes, ridge across nose between the eyes, lines at the corner of the mouth, chin cleft....I personally have yet to see one that's a better match.

I agree that Hollinger is the closest match to the famous sketch I've seen. Much closer than DAH in my opinion. But I also wonder how Jared after seeing the pics of Hollinger and the videos with his voice that he wouldn't just shout out that's him...that's the guy!

 

[tinner007]

I'm not sure of his height but the first time I saw the various pics of him..plus learning what some of his former coworkers in MN thought of him & then tying in the fact he knew his way around the parks & skating rinks it just had me wondering is all. Just another sicko in the massive pile.

I think we should try and stick with people we know where local at the time....this guy is in Cleveland. Some people seem confused already. Just a thought, that's all

 

[Wisdom]

I think we should try and stick with people we know where local at the time....this guy is in Cleveland. Some people seem confused already. Just a thought, that's all

If we are ever fortunate enough to see this case solved and the perp turns out to be someone other than DR....I believe the perp would've left the area at some point which would fit this guy, Hollinger and many others that have been discussed.