GUILTY MN - Madeline Jane Kingsbury, 26, mother of 2, Winona, 31 Mar 2023 *arrest* #2

[PommyMommy]

APR 26, 2023

Winona Police Department makes new request in search for missing woman

Investigators are asking property owners in these counties to report old wells from before 1925, old homesteads, windmills or windmill bases.

www.kttc.com

... Investigators are asking property owners in these counties to report old wells from before 1925, old homesteads, windmills or windmill bases. Investigators are also asking people to report any sinkholes that are accessible by car. Authorities said this information is not available in records and could lead to new searches.

To report any of these items on your property, contact search@co.winona.mn.us.

Winona PD: New request to property owners in Madeline Kingsbury case

The Winona Police Department has issued a new request to property owners in the search for missing Madeline Kingsbury.

www.kaaltv.com

The department is also partnering with Maddi’s family in requesting all property owners in Winona, Fillmore, and Houston counties place a blue check mark in an easily visible location if you consent to having your property searched.

“If you want to volunteer for the search, we ask you to make safety your top priority. Please do not search alone, don’t search dangerous areas and don’t enter the water. We don’t want anyone to get lost or hurt, which would pull resources from our search for Maddi.”

Missing Madeline Kingsbury: Winona authorities make new request in search efforts

Winona's law enforcement has issued new requests to property owners in the ongoing search for Madeline Kingsbury

www.fox9.com

"If you want to volunteer for a search, we ask you to make safety your top priority. Please do not search alone, don’t search dangerous areas and don’t enter the water. We don’t want anyone to get lost or hurt, which would also pull resources from our search for Maddi," police said.

Authorities say they receive tips daily and review each one. Tips can be submitted to CrimeStoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS or online here.

Winona police said they are not prepared to identify a suspect or person of interest in the case. There is a $50,000 reward for information leading to her whereabouts.

 

[TGIRecovered]

Do WSers think this is strategic or just grasping at the very unlikely options? In other words, do they have some idea about old wells and windmill bases or are they just grasping at whatever straws are left?

I think LE knows what area she is in based upon the results of their investigation. They need all the information they can get about places to hide a body. Lots of rural properties have old wells that aren’t mapped. They are being thorough, not grasping at straws. MOO

 

[kccorona]

The planned search of the Girl Scout Camp this coming weekend strikes me as very strategic and maybe based on new or not-yet-investigated info? Something about the instructions and announcement of the search seems more serious than the group’s previous announcements, but I guess that aspect of the post could also be attributed to issues that came up during the last few search events (i.e. not everyone who came to search was well dressed, etc).

Either way- in my opinion, the specific search of the Girl Scout Camp property feels (to me) like it must be based on some kind of tip or info, credible or not.

 

[otto]

Do WSers think this is strategic or just grasping at the very unlikely options? In other words, do they have some idea about old wells and windmill bases or are they just grasping at whatever straws are left?

<modsnip - RUDE>

Seems like an ongoing investigation of a missing woman. Her last known location was at home fifteen minutes after dropping the children at daycare. Less than 2 hours later, her husband saw her at home. He left and returned a few hours later. Her stuff is at home, she's missing, her husband picked up the children from daycare.

Who reported her missing again?

 

[Allabouttrial]

Did we even find out who or what observed her at home? I always thought that was the baby daddy, as opposed to something like a 3rd party or video evidence.

From the Press Conference

.....Maddie was last seen the morning of Friday, March 31st. Maddie and the father of their children dropped the children off at daycare, shortly after 8 am. Maddie did not show up for work, which is very unlike her and we are worried for her safety. During the course of our investigation, we know that Maddie returned to her residence on Kerry Drive in Winona around 8:15 am. on March 31st....

 

[Allabouttrial]

There has been no CCTV talk from LE for footage around their house and they have never revealed who was driving the van.

Fingers crossed they are building their case nice and strong.

They kind of did. From the Press Conference

...The vehicle that Maddie normally drives is a 2014 dark blue Chrysler Town & Country mini-van. The father of Maddie's children has spoken to law enforcement and told us that he left the residence in Maddie's van around 10 am. and upon returning later in the day, Maddie was not home....

 

[Sadi]

Is it possible another person was staying at Maddi’s home, besides AF and/or arrived when they left to drop off the kids? I’m sure the neighbors camera would have this? Something also had to have been said (Maddi’s from young daughter) that caused concern for the kid’s safety. I’m wondering what did they see? Hear etc? Criminal activity in the home, physical/verbal abuse etc.? I live in MN (St Paul area) and yes, in older small towns, small windmills and wishing wells were somewhat popular. I see them still when traveling within MN and WI. A neighbor several houses away has a wishing well. I believe they are narrowing their focus for specific reasons.

 

[JennieM]

They kind of did. From the Press Conference

...The vehicle that Maddie normally drives is a 2014 dark blue Chrysler Town & Country mini-van. The father of Maddie's children has spoken to law enforcement and told us that he left the residence in Maddie's van around 10 am. and upon returning later in the day, Maddie was not home....

I meant we don't know who was driving the van in the motorway, LE said it looks like Maddi's van but never confirmed it is her van or who was driving it. Her sister also says:

"It's not clear who was driving the vehicle, um you know there is as far as I know some surveillance video of the van at a gas station, um in Rushford Minnesota just kind of driving by, but you can't see, you can't see who is driving it so um so yea any footage that they are able to get that has even a glimpse of the van would be extremely helpful."

 

[Perch]

LE states that they both returned home.

Yes true. But that has to be from AF unless there is video or other information. Just saying the source could be a little suspect IMO.

 

[Allabouttrial]

I meant we don't know who was driving the van in the motorway, LE said it looks like Maddi's van but never confirmed it is her van or who was driving it. Her sister also says:

"It's not clear who was driving the vehicle, um you know there is as far as I know some surveillance video of the van at a gas station, um in Rushford Minnesota just kind of driving by, but you can't see, you can't see who is driving it so um so yea any footage that they are able to get that has even a glimpse of the van would be extremely helpful."

Oh I was going off your post that said:

There has been no CCTV talk from LE for footage around their house and they have never revealed who was driving the van.

Fingers crossed they are building their case nice and strong.

I didn't realise you were talking about the van, that may or may not have been hers, that was seen driving on the motorway.

 

[JennieM]

Oh I was going off your post that said:



I didn't realise you were talking about the van, that may or may not have been hers, that was seen driving on the motorway.

I hope it's all clear now.

 

[Allabouttrial]

I hope it's all clear now.

Hmmm yeah ok.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Specifically, authorities are asking for information about wells from before 1925 and old homesteads in Winona and Fillmore counties, along with sinkholes that are accessible by car. They also would like information about any old windmills or windmill bases in those two counties.

Winona police seek new information to help search for Madeline Kingsbury

Police are asking Winona and Fillmore Counties property owners to report any information about old wells, homesteads, windmill bases, and sinkholes as authorities continue to search for Madeline Kingsbury.

www.mprnews.org

 

[rescuemom]

Do WSers think this is strategic or just grasping at the very unlikely options? In other words, do they have some idea about old wells and windmill bases or are they just grasping at whatever straws are left?

I wonder if LE is getting to the point of an arrest and instead of tipping their hand they will continue with "busy work" i.e. as was done in the BK college murders where they focused on a car just to keep an interest in the case. Throwing a bone out there to convince whoever did this that they are no closer to an arrest and then wham!!! an arrest was made. Possibly a waste of resources but, JMO.

 

[Knox]

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7226185837149605166

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I wish I could make sense of this. Fort Snelling area is on my radar. Has that area been checked yet?

http://www.dot.state.mn.us/culturalresources/docs/crunit/devperiods.pdf

Forests, Fields, and the Falls: Connecting Minnesota

An online graphic novel that explores Minnesota's early industries of logging, farming and milling.

mnhs.gitlab.io

 

[Joe Friday]

I wish I could make sense of this. Fort Snelling area is on my radar. Has that area been checked yet?

http://www.dot.state.mn.us/culturalresources/docs/crunit/devperiods.pdf

Forests, Fields, and the Falls: Connecting Minnesota

An online graphic novel that explores Minnesota's early industries of logging, farming and milling.

mnhs.gitlab.io

It's a four hour drive from Winona to St. Paul/Mendota area where Fort Snelling is and back to Winona. I don't think he had enough time to go three, since he was only gone for three and a half hours. I would think LE has evidence to know if AF arrived back at the house when he said he did or if he actually arrived later than what he stated.

LE is focusing searches to the south of Winona where they say a vehicle matching the description of Maddi's van was seen going one direction and then returinng in the other direction, during the time frame when AF said he had the van.

 

[Hoss569]

Not sure if anyone has looked into the weather on the 31st there. Here is the weather from timeanddate.com. Might be helpful to reduce the list of wells and sinkholes to one with a road next to it, could have been fairly muddy then for a mini van.

 

[Spider92]

Do WSers think this is strategic or just grasping at the very unlikely options? In other words, do they have some idea about old wells and windmill bases or are they just grasping at whatever straws are left?

I think this whole business about the wells and windmills is very intriguing especially about wells from before 1925. Granted, I've read too many detective novels, but I wonder if LE has found some trace evidence that leads them to believe the killer brought her to a well or sinkhole. Maybe there is some sort of sediment or bacteria that grows predominantly in those areas and they found evidence of that on the carpet of the home or the tires of the minivan....or on someone's shoes. And 1925? Was there some sort of chemical that was allowed only before that date in the construction and operation of wells and it was found as trace evidence? Or maybe, wells used before 1925 did not need to be sealed when they went dry? Just very odd. Thanks @youarentsilly for pointing this out...kept me awake last night.

 

[Erutan]

It had to of been planned out not to of found her by now. Which will be premeditated. A few years ago there was a case where the gal went missing. She was put in the river in a big tote with weights in it. Took a few weeks but the gases from the body blew the lid off the tote. He put bullet holes in the tote so it would sink. The guy got charged with premeditation.

Ita.
Someone(s) put some thought into disappearing Madaline.
Imo.