GUILTY MO - Bobbi Jo Stinnett, 23, slain, fetus stolen, Skidmore, 16 Dec 2004

[raisincharlie]

I was wondering if we would hear about audio or visual hallucinations but seems Ms. Montgomery did not suffer from that particular problem:


http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/319413.html

Montgomery told her that she did not remember committing the crime that she was charged with, McCandless testified.
According to McCandless, Montgomery said, “I must have done it because I had that baby. I can’t think I would do something like that.”
Montgomery also told her, “I deserve to die if I did that,” McCandless testified.
At that time, Montgomery denied having any auditory or visual hallucinations, McCandless said.
McCandless’ initial diagnosis was that Montgomery suffered from bipolar disorder, depression and alcohol dependency.

 

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The defense on Tuesday delved into the mind of Lisa Montgomery, a mind that they argue was too sick to knowingly commit a horrendous crime.

http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/320638.html

 

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Ramachandran testified Tuesday he believed the defendant was in a dissociative state - similar to sleepwalking - at the time of the killing.

http://www.kansascity.com/440/story/321429.html

 

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McCandless acknowledged that the psychosis finding came two weeks after the Montgomery trial started in U.S. District Court and after Montgomery, who has sat at the defense table throughout the trial, had heard all the testimony by the prosecution witnesses.

http://www.cjonline.com/stories/101707/kan_209159986.shtml

 

[luvbeaches]

Ramachandran testified Tuesday he believed the defendant was in a dissociative state - similar to sleepwalking - at the time of the killing.

http://www.kansascity.com/440/story/321429.html

They're grasping at straws. I just can't see this flying. She's a sick gal, but so are the other convicted killers.

 

[raisincharlie]

The defense has rested:


http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/321116.html


Persons suffering from such a delusion will go as far as manufacturing evidence to cling to their delusion, Ramachandran said.
First Assistant U.S. Attorney Matt Whitworth questioned Ramachandran about all the evidence against Montgomery and the inconsistent statements she gave about her alleged pregnancy in the months leading up to Stinnett’s killing.
He testified that “fluctuations” in a person’s stories would be consistent with an emotionally disturbed person in a delusional state.“Despite all this evidence you contend that she didn’t know it was wrong?” Whitworth asked.
“That is correct,” Ramachandran answered.

 

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Dr. Daniel Martell, a rebuttal witness for the prosecution, testified that tests he and two other mental health experts administered showed Montgomery was exaggerating some symptoms of mental illness. Martell determined Montgomery had been faking mental illness to help her defense.
"I think she is a manipulative woman who will say what she needs in a situation to turn it to her advantage," he testified.

http://www.kansascity.com/440/story/321429.html

 

[raisincharlie]

Dr. Daniel Martell, a rebuttal witness for the prosecution, testified that tests he and two other mental health experts administered showed Montgomery was exaggerating some symptoms of mental illness. Martell determined Montgomery had been faking mental illness to help her defense.
"I think she is a manipulative woman who will say what she needs in a situation to turn it to her advantage," he testified.

http://www.kansascity.com/440/story/321429.html

As I thought - high IQ for Ms. Montgomery...

http://cjonline.com/stories/101807/kan_209460211.shtml


Martell spent three days in May and two days in June conducting psychological testing on Montgomery He found that she had an IQ of 120, which is in the superior range. Montgomery would have scored higher, but she didn't give her best effort, Martell said. Montgomery pretended to have a memory problem and a mood disorder, including depression, Martell said.
Montgomery has post-traumatic stress disorder, which results from exposure to terrifying events, including assaults, Martell said.


The illustrious bs artist (IMO) Park Dietz is to be on the stand today. Lets hope he is no longer consulting for Law & Order and has learned that lying on the stand is not a good thing. I must say, I don't think any of these brain doctors has a real clue - their stories seem to vary more than Ms. Montgomery's do. JMO.

 

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From the same link:

Martell said the PTSD could be the result of suffering physical and sexual abuse as a child and a teen, but it also could stem from strangling Bobbie Jo Stinnett, then cutting Victoria Jo Stinnett from her mother's belly and due to sitting in jail facing trial.

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Heh. In a nutshell, COG.
MOO and stuff.

 

[raisincharlie]

From the same link:

Martell said the PTSD could be the result of suffering physical and sexual abuse as a child and a teen, but it also could stem from strangling Bobbie Jo Stinnett, then cutting Victoria Jo Stinnett from her mother's belly and due to sitting in jail facing trial.

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Heh. In a nutshell, COG.
MOO and stuff.

I'm thinking sitting in jail would stress me out as well Guilty or not.

The above seems like a wash to me since Martell could not determine which triggered the PTSD but conceeded either could have and agreeing she did experience PTSD. I don't believe there is one of these brain doctors that can actually and truthfully answer the real question - legally sane or not. It appears they all have differing methods of reaching their conclusions and collecting their paychecks.

If nothing else, they seem to add nothing but confusion.

 

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http://www.cjonline.com/stories/101907/kan_209893148.shtml


When she arrived at the Stinnett home, she carried in her coat pocket a length of white rope to strangle Bobbie Jo Stinnett and a stainless steel knife to cut out her baby, Dietz said.
"It's total proof this wasn't impulsive," Dietz said.

 

[reb]

Come on,, people-- just give her the death sentence already!!! She ain't 'legally insane'.. she's legally EVIL.

 

[luvbeaches]

Come on,, people-- just give her the death sentence already!!! She ain't 'legally insane'.. she's legally EVIL.

That's the truth.

 

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Jurors will begin deliberations today, the first day of the trial's fourth week.
The jury of six men and six women has three choices:
• Acquit Montgomery, which would free her.
• Convict her.
• Find Montgomery not guilty by reason of insanity

http://www.cjonline.com/stories/102207/kan_210846681.shtml

 

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A key expert witness for the prosecution defended his objectivity Friday as testimony in the Lisa Montgomery kidnapping case concluded

http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/325382.html

 

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Verdict watch.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/327848.html

 

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Prayers for justice for the family of Bobbie Jo Stinnet.

 

[calidreamin]

Prayers for Bobbie Jo and her husband and baby!

 

[snowshuze]

Guilty!!!!
http://www.kansascity.com/679/story/327848.html

 

[luvbeaches]

I just knew she wouldn't get off. They'll give her the DP, which she deserves.