GUILTY MO - Breeann Rodriguez, 3, Senath, 6 August 2011 - #1

[MarthaM]

I could see why someone would take the bike. One, it would look less suspicious if someone was watching them. Who picks up their child and leaves their bike behind?

And two, it confuses the searchers, making it appear that she may be riding it somewhere still.

Or a person could use a child's own bike to make them more willing to go along with him. You know, "Come on, I know a good place to ride your bike, let's go..."

 

[MsFacetious]

Even under Ontario's new AMBER Alert criteria that you mention, this would not have qualified for an Alert. There is no vehicle or abductor description. I think, like cluciano mentioned above, there are just some times where an AMBER Alert will not help. The police are working very hard on this case (although the media could be doing better).

It is such a fine line though... because so many people ignore Amber Alerts due to them being issued when they shouldn't be... for "I saw somebody grab a kid and put them in a car" situations even without a report of a missing child, for example.

However... this situation is just like Alisa Maier... except no one witnessed this one. Alisa Maier had an Amber Alert... and I believe that attention is what caused her abductor to drop her off unharmed 24 hours after abducting her. Of course he just as easily could have killed her.

There was also the 8 year old who was rescued after being recognized from the Amber Alert...

If either one of those just hadn't been witnessed... would they have had happy endings?

I don't know... but a part of me thinks that *maybe* when we are talking about a child this small... at the very least LE should be contacting all the media. Getting it out there themselves if they cannot issue an Amber Alert. The media takes it more seriously if the LE calls them and begs them to run a story... than when an unrelated citizen does that. There IS more that can be done.

I am very concerned that this is a situation like Alisa... and the LACK of attention to it will end up preventing a happy ending. By this point Alisa was already found and safe...

 

[hollyblue]

I wonder if there is a neighbor whose house she likes to go play at. If she rode her bike down someone's long driveway, and no one was home but the father or grandfather or uncle, then she could have been at the wrong place at the wrong time.

We had a little neighborhood boy whose grandparents were raising him. He was only 3 but he would always get away from them and visit the neighborhood kids houses. He would sometimes go in our side gate and play outback all by himself. I would come home and find him out there playing on the swings, happily humming to himself.

I hope LE went door to door and searched carefully.

I've wondered about other kids in the neighbor she could have visited for play, but "driving" on Google maps down her street, I didn't see any signs of any children at all. What I'm worried about are teens who may have a reckless sense of driving. Is it possible she peddled up someone's drive or on the street, and someone was backing out and struck her....covering up an accident of some kind?

Water: I've found there is some kind of water east of the house--few blocks. It looks to be constructed by the shape. I don't know if a kind of retention pond, pool or what, but it covers a couple of acres? There are also what look to be irrigation ditches with only a few feet of water running thru them...but that's enough. There is one crossing under Rte 412 to the southwest toward Bucada?. Also, another water source on off 412 to the SW of her home (State Hwy C). I'll link a map.

Why would someone let their 3 and 5 yr old ride a bike in the street/road? Can't grasp that. It's not even safe for them to be in the front yard anymore unless they are being watched. Sad,,but we see the consequences all the time ...much too much.

Ode Johnson Street, Senath, MO - Google Maps

 

[katydid23]

Thanks for that map. I hope they searched that water area already. That is a huge one.

I agree about the bikes in the street. Let alone a 3 and 5 yr old riding in the street. I really feel bad for the poor 5 yr old. THis is going to haunt him and it is not fair. When he came in the house someone should have immediately gone outside and gotten that child. Now he has to feel this burden and it was NOT his responsibility to watch a 3 yr old. He is not old enough for that responsibility.

 

[summer_breeze]

http://www.lebanondailyrecord.com/news/state/article_46478562-fbef-5906-8771-e1fffe080f34.html

Posted: Monday, August 8, 2011 9:47 am
Updated: 11:00 pm, Mon Aug 8, 2011.

The search continued Monday for a 3-year-old southeast Missouri girl has been missing for two days.

 

[SurfieTX]

FBI is investigating her disappearance as an abduction.

http://www.kspr.com/news/local/kspr-fbi-investigating-4-year-olds-disappearance-in-missouri-bootheel-20110808,0,6987150.story

 

[Gardenlady]

I've wondered about other kids in the neighbor she could have visited for play, but "driving" on Google maps down her street, I didn't see any signs of any children at all. What I'm worried about are teens who may have a reckless sense of driving. Is it possible she peddled up someone's drive or on the street, and someone was backing out and struck her....covering up an accident of some kind?

Why would someone let their 3 and 5 yr old ride a bike in the street/road? Can't grasp that. It's not even safe for them to be in the front yard anymore unless they are being watched. Sad,,but we see the consequences all the time ...much too much.

for what its worth, in one of the articles I was reading, a neighbor of Breann's said that normally the street was full of neighborhood kids playing and bikes, and she said how fun it was to look out and see and hear them all playing. Then she goes in to talk about how since Breann disappeared, everyone is scared and indoors.

So, it sounds like there are other children around, and it was normal for them all to play outside and in the street together, etc.

It's hard to keep in mind, reading here on WS, but stranger abductions are the exception. Most disappearances involve family members or acquaintances. It should be normal practice for small children to play outside without a parent hovering over them every minute. I didn't live in the best city growing up - but I so treasure the memories of wandering my street (and as I got older, my neighborhood) with small friends, hopping in puddles, walking fences, playing kickball in the street, all while mom kept an eye from a window, or my older brother and the older kids kept an eye on us younger ones.

I let my younger two (6 and 4) play in the yard while I watch from the window. If they ride bikes in the road I will sometimes go out and work in the garden, but I don't hover next to them. Sometimes I send one of my older kids (13 and 14) out to rolleerblade while the littler ones bike. Sometimes the youngest takes off up the sidewalk, but the 6 yr old always raises a ruckus and goes and drags him back (this is actually funnier than it comes across in text ). I have drilled the rules into their heads, and for the most part, they do follow them.

I know some of what I do will be deemed too risky by many, but it's important to me not to succumb to fear of the unlikely - which is what stranger abduction is. I guess my point is, in my long winded way, that children playing outside in a neighborhood without hovering parents should be the norm. And most times, they are perfectly safe to do so. When the worst happens, it's not the parents fault. We don't know how often they looked out or came out to check, or if there were neighbor adults watching too. It doesn't help Breeann to pass judgement on her parents for letting her bike on their dead end street.

I'm so worried about this little one. It is always scary when a child goes missing, but infinitely worse when, like it seems here, a true stranger abduction happens. The normal and everyday things suddenly become sinister and unsafe. As the neighbor described, everyone, all the kids, are now hiding inside. Now everyone has to live in fear. So sad for Breeann, her brother, and all the little kids.

 

[~n/t~]

Regarding the amber alert....

A very similar case happened in Ontario Canada, an 8 yr old girl disappeared while walking home from school. No amber alert was issued as the case did not meet the criteria (which requires a vehicle description/abductor description. LE took alot a flack for not issueing the alert. However, it is not LE which makes the rules for this, therefore a number of us on WS and facebook started a petition with over 61,000 signatures, we sent the petition to the government. We now have a revised amber alert in Ontario. The amber alert now requires one or more of the following descriptions: of a child under 18 yrs old who they believe are in danger, vehicle description or abductor description.

We also thought this case in ontario was not hitting the news fast enough, us internet investigators printed off the pic and description of child and emailed them to every news station, newspaper and media outlet possible, we also printed them off and put them in towns miles away. I remember thinking, I wont bother printing them off and putting them up in my town as I live 2 hours away. In the end, the childs body was discovered 10 min from my house.

If you're talking about Victoria Stafford, it was a disgrace the way that case was handled from the beginning. An Amber Alert should have been issued. They had a video of the abductor but LE claimed it didn't look like Victoria was being threatened and was walking with the woman willingly. Gimme a break!

Anyway off my soapbox..........to this day, I still get very angry about that case.

Back to Breeann, I was hoping to awaken to some good news. I do have a question about the reward money. Anybody know how rewards are decided? Why do certain cases get higher rewards than others? This one is up to $45,000. Does it have to do with the FBI's profile of the possible suspect? Drugs? In Holly Bobo's case it's up to $85,000. Just curious how they figure out what the reward should be.

Praying for some good news today.

 

[Gardenlady]

Back to Breeann, I was hoping to awaken to some good news. I do have a question about the reward money. Anybody know how rewards are decided? Why do certain cases get higher rewards than others? This one is up to $45,000. Does it have to do with the FBI's profile of the possible suspect? Drugs? In Holly Bobo's case it's up to $85,000. Just curious how they figure out what the reward should be.

Praying for some good news today.

Breeanns reward is, I think, $25k from the FBI and $20k from the local police? I'll see if I can go back and find the exact amounts.

That doesn't answer your question about why though, which I too have wondered. I remember the governor announced the $75k for Holly Bobo, and I wondered too why such a large one for Holly, but not one for any of the other missing in TN?

 

[Gardenlady]

Here are the amounts:

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/270864/3/Reward-now-offered-for-information-on-Breeann-Rodriguez

20k from the Senath Marshalls Office, and $25k from the FBI.

 

[krimekat]

Here are the amounts:

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/270864/3/Reward-now-offered-for-information-on-Breeann-Rodriguez

20k from the Senath Marshalls Office, and $25k from the FBI.

Police Chief Omar Karnes said none of her neighbors saw any suspicious vehicles the day of her disappearance, but the FBI is asking for information on a white cargo-type van seen in the area a few days prior to her disappearance. The van had no side windows, and a ladder mounted on the rear.

 

[krimekat]

Even under Ontario's new AMBER Alert criteria that you mention, this would not have qualified for an Alert. There is no vehicle or abductor description. I think, like cluciano mentioned above, there are just some times where an AMBER Alert will not help. The police are working very hard on this case (although the media could be doing better).

Same in the case: "It doesn't meet the criteria for an Amber Alert yet, " Karnes said. "There are no signs of foul play or an abduction. It is just a missing child [case] right now."

http://www.dddnews.com/story/1751388.html

 

[hollye]

I don't mean to be picky, but I keep seeing reports that the bike is pink. To me, it appears to be more brown and salmon colored. It is a very distinct looking bike, as most little girl's bikes are pink, purple & blue, IMO.

 

[hollye]

Has anyone seen the size of the bike Breeann was riding? I was thinking it was a 10", as that is the size that my daughter has, so pretty much the smallest regular bike with training wheels. However, in searching for the bike online, I can only find that particular model in a 16" size, which is a significant difference to the size of the bike that I was envisioning. Does anyone know?

 

[~n/t~]

Has anyone seen the size of the bike Breeann was riding? I was thinking it was a 10", as that is the size that my daughter has, so pretty much the smallest regular bike with training wheels. However, in searching for the bike online, I can only find that particular model in a 16" size, which is a significant difference to the size of the bike that I was envisioning. Does anyone know?

No mention of the size
http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...seNum=1177314&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US

 

[CN2Souls]

I wonder if there is a neighbor whose house she likes to go play at. If she rode her bike down someone's long driveway, and no one was home but the father or grandfather or uncle, then she could have been at the wrong place at the wrong time.

We had a little neighborhood boy whose grandparents were raising him. He was only 3 but he would always get away from them and visit the neighborhood kids houses. He would sometimes go in our side gate and play outback all by himself. I would come home and find him out there playing on the swings, happily humming to himself.

I hope LE went door to door and searched carefully.

RBBM

Thank you Katydid23, Looks like they are...

Senath Police Chief Omar Karnes

"It will be a daily thing until we find her or find out what happened," Karnes said. "It turns this community upside down.

"We are searching again, all of the areas," Karnes said. "We have done a house-to-house all over Senath. We've looked in everybody's backyard, we've looked in sheds, under vehicles...ditchbanks, field rows, cotton fields, and we are going back over them again today.

http://www.dddnews.com/story/1751388.html

 

[SurfieTX]

The bike is a Huffy Sea Star (per the picture on the first page). I think this is it: http://www.walmart.com/ip/12-Girls-Huffy-Sea-Star-Bike/1985715

 

[Gardenlady]

Wow, looking at the map again, I get such a sick feeling seeing the huge area of fields surrounding Breann's neighborhood.

I know nothing about cornfields, so perhaps someone can answer - what is the typical width between rows of corn? I read where the father said people were searching on their ATVs or four wheelers; can one of those type vehicles navigate between the rows of corn, or would you need searchers to walk through?

Just thinking of how hard it would be to spot this little one in a field of tall corn, and how long it would take to cover all that area.

 

[TxLady2]

It really doesn't matter what the statistics say at this point, anything is possible. Averages and statistics don't mean a thing to a family whose small child has disappeared. Anything could have happened. Predators don't always stalk a target and plan an abduction, sometimes they see an opportunity and grab it. It could be a total stranger or it could be someone they know, even a relative.

 

[krimekat]

Just thinking of how hard it would be to spot this little one in a field of tall corn, and how long it would take to cover all that area.

Respectfully snipped, I sure hope they have heat seeking devices (oh, I hope it is not too late) & I am sure they are using planes to fly over the fields. Happens quite a bit in our agricultural community in southern IL (searching for things planted btwn corn rows, if you get my drift).