GUILTY MO - Breeann Rodriguez, 3, Senath, 6 August 2011 - #5

[flipflop]

When SM was searching with his neighbours , I wonder if he noted which places had been previously searched by LE and volunteers to drop off the training wheels and the mysterious 3rd item of interest? Also note that he asked if he could ride along with the neighbour so as to not use his OWN vehicle in the search. JMO

I wondered also if it was SM's intent to get involved to hear the latest info of areas searched. With plans to plant evidence to further distance them from the truth.

And yes, good point about HIS truck!!!

 

[panthera]

I wondered also if it was SM's intent to get involved to hear the latest info of areas searched. With plans to plant evidence to further distance them from the truth.

And yes, good point about HIS truck!!!

BBM

That is exactly what he was doing, imo.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

No, and no known, verified evidence that this murder was motivated by molestation/rape/pedophilia, or by random uncontrollable non-specific rage, or anything else.

It has been verified by LE that Morgan didn't say what his motive was, and the prosecutor declined to comment on his thoughts about motive.

So... it's all up in the air right now, for us to think about and discuss and see if we can figure it out.

Exactly the reason for my question. The idea seemed to be gaining traction, which is I wondered if SM had said or done something to indicate that he was uncomfortable with individuals of other cultural or ethnic backgrounds (eg., at work). No disrespect intended!

 

[MarthaM]

No, and no known, verified evidence that this murder was motivated by molestation/rape/pedophilia, or by random uncontrollable non-specific rage, or anything else.

It has been verified by LE that Morgan didn't say what his motive was, and the prosecutor declined to comment on his thoughts about motive.

So... it's all up in the air right now, for us to think about and discuss and see if we can figure it out.

That's just it, though. How would we even begin to figure out a motive when we know so little? Right now, it could be all of the above. Or none of the above. Or any combination. I wouldn't know which to even pick at this point.

 

[BeanE]

That's just it, though. How would we even begin to figure out a motive when we know so little? Right now, it could be all of the above. Or none of the above. Or any combination. I wouldn't know which to even pick at this point.

We don't have much at all to go on. We could dig up some statistics from NCMEC or the DOJ or the FBI and take a gander at them. There are extremely few non-family abductions, and I think this would fall in that category. We could see if we could find something broken down by motive, or by accompanying crimes such as rape/molestation.

ETA: Well, this popped right up in Google. From NCMEC:

Nonfamily Abducted Children: National Estimates and Characteristics

http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/documents/nismart2_nonfamily.pdf

ETA again: Wowzer! I can already see from the stats in this document that this was very rare according to a number of factors.

And ETA again lol: Criminal assaults were a motive in most of the nonfamily abductions (table 6). Close to half of all nonfamily abduction victims and stereotypical kidnapping victims were sexually assaulted, while about a third were otherwise physically assaulted. Seven percent of the nonfamily abduction victims and 20 percent of the stereotypical kidnapping victims were robbed.

 

[jadejazzkayla]

If the rumors that she turned him in were to turn out to be true... would that make her eligible for the reward? Anyone know?

I don't know but I found this fbi press release....

The FBI is offering a reward of up to $25,000 for the successful recovery and prosecution of the person or persons responsible for her disappearance, if she was abducted....Senath Marshals Office is offering a reward of up to $20,000 with the same criteria,...total reward up to $45,000.

from link ===> http://www.fbi.gov/stlouis/press-releases/2011/reward-in-missing-girls-case

As for the words "reward of UP TO" - I would like to know what the criteria is to be awarded some of the money and what the criteria is to be awarded all of it.

 

[cluciano63]

We don't have much at all to go on. We could dig up some statistics from NCMEC or the DOJ or the FBI and take a gander at them. There are extremely few non-family abductions, and I think this would fall in that category. We could see if we could find something broken down by motive, or by accompanying crimes such as rape/molestation.

ETA: Well, this popped right up in Google. From NCMEC:

Nonfamily Abducted Children: National Estimates and Characteristics

http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/documents/nismart2_nonfamily.pdf

ETA again: Wowzer! I can already see from the stats in this document that this was very rare according to a number of factors.

Yes, very rare indeed, especially if, as it seems, he has no "history."

 

[Yellow Rose]

video of moments from beautiful BreeAnn's short life on FB

Warning: tearjearker

https://www.facebook.com/help.find.breann

I am thankful I'm the only one at the office today because that made me bawl my eyes out!

I gotta say it: This looks like a very loving, very close-knit family. Those pictures of Breeann with her puppy (both IN the tub and OUT) are just adorable. She cared so much for it, you can tell. Even took her bath WITH the puppy, probably so he/she wouldn't be upset by itself. Oh carp, he I go again .... can't hardly see

 

[MsFacetious]

Thanks Holly, I read one link that stated wed thurs, another said thurs and yet another said tues wed???

It was before 8pm Tuesday and then late morning on Wednesday.

Wednesday is when they wouldn't reveal the evidence, just that they found 2 pieces Tuesday night and Wednesday.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


3 pieces of evidence - 2 are training wheels

http://www.dddnews.com/story/1752168.html

I don't think its shocking that his wife might potentially be finding him a lawyer. I am not married, but wouldn't most spouses do that?

I don't think the rumours that she turned him in are anything but that at this point. Hopefully she's spending her money on a divorce lawyer!

In a situation like this... the fact is that her focus has to be on the kids.
Emotionally, financially, physically.. all of her energy needs to go to them.

 

[MarthaM]

I don't know but I found this fbi press release....

The FBI is offering a reward of up to $25,000 for the successful recovery and prosecution of the person or persons responsible for her disappearance, if she was abducted....Senath Marshals Office is offering a reward of up to $20,000 with the same criteria,...total reward up to $45,000.

from link ===> http://www.fbi.gov/stlouis/press-releases/2011/reward-in-missing-girls-case

As for the words "reward of UP TO" - I would like to know what the criteria is to be awarded some of the money and what the criteria is to be awarded all of it.

I don't know anything about how these rewards work, but one thing we also don't know is if SM was already a suspect or POI in the eyes of LE before anybody (wife as rumored or anyone else) might have said something to LE about him. I would think that if they're already looking into somebody or watching someone, then somebody coming forward with info about that person wouldn't qualify for a reward.

 

[sreshowtime]

Has anyone else found out and other RELIABLE background information on him?

I found some info about his wife's father and the names of their children but not much on him.

I do see he at one time lived in;

Kennett, MO
and
Paragould, AR

do you mean SM?

hmm, interesting some of BR 's family are connected with those cities...find myself wondering if there is some sort of a history

 

[BeanE]

[/B]

Yes, very rare indeed, especially if, as it seems, he has no "history."

His age and Breeann's age also add to the rarity of this crime too. A number of factors. I think all put together, this one would be off the charts, even if it does turn out to be sexual-assault motivated.

I found this:

The motives for non-family abductions are quite different. Social deviancy, the need for power, and sexual arousal motivate the majority of "stranger" abductors. Receiving the most media coverage, these cases often end with the murder of the child.

http://www.childabductions.org/


The biggest motive is by far sexual assault, but what I'm seeing stated over and over is that more studies are needed for the non-sexual-assault ones.

I think we're left with going with the stats - sexual assault - and just at guessing at motive if it's non-sexual-assault.

 

[laniefi]

do you mean SM?

hmm, interesting some of BR 's family are connected with those cities...find myself wondering if there is some sort of a history

Yes, sorry. I was just added to Breeann's uncle's personal facebook page to express my condolences and there does appear to be some common links...

 

[LCoastMom]

We don't have much at all to go on. We could dig up some statistics from NCMEC or the DOJ or the FBI and take a gander at them. There are extremely few non-family abductions, and I think this would fall in that category. We could see if we could find something broken down by motive, or by accompanying crimes such as rape/molestation.

ETA: Well, this popped right up in Google. From NCMEC:

Nonfamily Abducted Children: National Estimates and Characteristics

http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/documents/nismart2_nonfamily.pdf

ETA again: Wowzer! I can already see from the stats in this document that this was very rare according to a number of factors.

And ETA again lol: Criminal assaults were a motive in most of the nonfamily abductions (table 6). Close to half of all nonfamily abduction victims and stereotypical kidnapping victims were sexually assaulted, while about a third were otherwise physically assaulted. Seven percent of the nonfamily abduction victims and 20 percent of the stereotypical kidnapping victims were robbed.

Is this broken down by age or all missing persons under 18?

Except in those few cases of young children taken by someone wanting a child (which IMO in no way would indicate the child was safe) it almost always involves assault of child in some way.

 

[lauriej]

http://mcdanielfuneralservice.com/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=1239063&fh_id=12769

McDaniel Funeral Services

GuestBook----BreeAnn Rodriguez

 

[BeanE]

Is this broken down by age or all missing persons under 18?

Except in those few cases of young children taken by someone wanting a child (which IMO in no way would indicate the child was safe) it almost always involves assault of child in some way.

I posted the link, so you can review the doc. There are statistics broken down by age.

 

[laniefi]

It was a small town, I bet the 2 families paths crossed frequently.

Yes, definitely seems that way....

 

[mck16]

Does anyone know if the LE have made a statement as to cause of death or autopsy findings. Or have they announced when they will be speaking to the public? Since funeral arrangements have been announced does that mean they are through with that part of their investigation? tia

 

[LCoastMom]

I posted the link, so you can review the doc. There are statistics broken down by age.

Thanks, oops when I opened the link I only had page one available. Puter connection reallllly slow here and sometimes stops loading an incomplete link. Reloaded got the rest of the doc - again thanks.

 

[~n/t~]

video of moments from beautiful BreeAnn's short life on FB

Warning: tearjearker

https://www.facebook.com/help.find.breann

:cry:

I'll never understand. Never.